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JTS Landscaping lawn
03-29-2006, 08:11 PM
wondering what the weight limit im michigan is before have to get a CDL. i have 20' gooseneck that holds 14000 lbs. will mainly be hauling like 8000 lbs sometime a little more.

janb
03-29-2006, 08:45 PM
If your towing unit GVWR is under 12,000#, and your trailer is tagged at 14,000# you don't need a CDL, but...only if you NEVER exceed GCVW of 26,001# (including cargo + vehicles + dirt clods)

If total combined GVWR is over 26001# you need a CDL
if trailer GVWR tag is over 10,000# AND GCVW is over 26,001# you need a class A cdl

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm
The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:

Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

Class C -- Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials.


full CDL discussion over on Heavy Equip forum
""A painful added expense... (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)""

dcondon
03-29-2006, 10:36 PM
I think your correct janb!!!!!:)

CutRight
03-29-2006, 11:32 PM
may not be completely correct. in CT and most other states from what iv seen the interpretation for towing is. ...

you need a CDL class A if your towing over 10,000#s, no matter what the gvwr of the truck is. applies to even pick ups.

your state laws may vary, but as i have more and more of these conversations it seems to be the same across the US.

CutRight
03-29-2006, 11:33 PM
but in most cases if your towing over 10,000#s then your GCWR will probably be over 26,000#s anyways, so in that case the above post is correct.

oldrustycars
03-29-2006, 11:42 PM
the CDL requirements are the same in all states. GVWR means groos vehicle weight rating...not what it actually weighs, but what its rated for. i can tell you a laborer where i work got a ticket in a pickup towing a tag trailer RATED for 12,000 lbs, he was hauling 5 wheelbarrows on the trailer. the company sent their lawyer with him to court...they lost. remember that word...RATING.

CutRight
03-29-2006, 11:51 PM
thats correct

janb
03-30-2006, 02:35 AM
thats correct

that's what I had thought too, and what I would suggest (get a CDL w/ CMV trailer over 10k) the fine is $1000 here... if no CDL
The "A" wording allows a bit of subjectivity

"Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds"

I had a friend use my trailer and his pickup to take an "A" test, but he had to use his 1 ton, as his 3/4 GVWR added up to less than 26001#, tho the trailer was rated well over 10,000# (triple axle "Eager Beaver" - beaver tail backhoe trailer)

I think RV's are exempt, tho I question why... (they usually have crumby suspension and whimpy brakes... and often very speedy, low experience drivers)

MOOSE
03-30-2006, 06:02 PM
I believe the correct weight is 10,000 lbs.