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Grn Mtn
04-10-2006, 09:02 AM
Across the board this year local mulch suppliers are charging upwards of $5 more over last year. I understand fuel is more, but $5 a yard increase seems pretty steep. Can anyone try to explain this?

Imulchmore
04-10-2006, 10:46 AM
We are getting charged more from our suppliers. The mulch in of it self is not that expensive... But when coupled with the cost of the freight to get it to my location the prices vary. I have had alot of customer look at me like I was nuts. But I have to pass this on to the consumer of I will fold!

MarcSmith
04-10-2006, 10:51 AM
mine has not gone up that much, but mulch is a very fuel intensive product

need fuel to transport it in "unrefined" form Need fuel to refine and grind, fuel to load the mulch onto trucks, and you need fuel to transport it from the grinding place to your establishment....

LawnScapers of Dayton
04-10-2006, 05:16 PM
my supplier went up $1-2 per yard.....depending on the grade.....

Derek

Grn Mtn
04-10-2006, 09:48 PM
my supplier went up $1-2 per yard.....depending on the grade.....

Derek

Now I could see $1-2, but $5? Your telling me that the freight costs went up $350 in a fuel surcharge, I have a hard time believing that.

grandview (2006)
04-10-2006, 09:53 PM
Went up 2.00 a yard to 19.95 if you buy 6+
24.95 1-5 yds

G.M.Landscaping
04-10-2006, 10:02 PM
My local supplier's mulch prices stayed the same this year. They make all there own mulch. Topsoil and 2B went way up thou.

MarcSmith
04-11-2006, 07:27 AM
Now I could see $1-2, but $5? Your telling me that the freight costs went up $350 in a fuel surcharge, I have a hard time believing that.

an earodynamic big rig with a smooth side box will average 6mpg., that means on a 500 gallon tank a truck will run 3000 miles @$2.00 per gallon that means $1000 for a full tank and at $3 a gallon its going run 1500.now we know mulch doesn't travel 3000 miles. but we have a fuel cost of .33 on the low end and .50 on the high end. which gives a difference of 20 cents, more or less....per mile travled. so if the mulch has to be moved 500 miles from raw product to customers house, you are looking at an extra hundred bucks per truck load( 70 yards+/-) which nets out at 1.43. so we have an extra 1.43 per yard jsut to hual the mulch. now how about loading, unloading, grinding, ect. I could see it adding another buck.. so if the mulch supplier adds 2.50 to his price, and you buy mulch from a reseller I could see a 5 dollar spike in the price. But they shoudl not add a fuel surcharge on top of it...

And this just account for fuel, not added cost of oil, tires, ect.

Mike Fronczak
04-11-2006, 11:29 AM
What type are you looking for I may be able to help? We're located in Hilton.

Grn Mtn
04-11-2006, 08:35 PM
Thanks mike, I should be okay though. I have pricing from Terry Tree, Garden Factory, Adirondack Mulch, Great Northeast Mulch and Rush Gravel. If you have another outlet though PM me with it (oh wait, don't you have it drop-shipped at your place now?)

I like getting it from Adirondack because of proximity (1.5 mile away) and they can deliver 16 yards at a time. But delivery is $50.

Great Northeast is too far for me to go get some but they only charge $15 for delivery!

There is a large landscape outfit in town that I heard is selling triple ground for $25 with free delivery to residential only. I don't get it, are they trying to put us smaller (but legit) landscapers out of business :hammerhead: can't we all just get along:laugh:

Mike Fronczak
04-12-2006, 07:46 AM
Who's selling it so cheap?

Imulchmore
04-13-2006, 09:19 AM
I am selling triple ground hardwood for $23.00 a Yard. But I charde $30.00 for delivery local within 5 miles and I charge by the zip code after that.

topsites
04-15-2006, 12:16 AM
i dunno... it went up a dollar to 12.60 a cube for standard double-shred, 18 for premium and $20 / cu.yard for designer mulch. I deliver and spread standard mulch for 45 / cu.yard unless it's bs involved (like hand spreading). Still doing 4 cubes for 175, delivered and spread.
You gotta love mulch to do it, but the customers love this price around here, it's hard to beat (not to say it hasn't been tried but then I always say they hire the cheaper guy already).

martinfan06
08-01-2006, 03:57 PM
[QUOTE=MarcSmith]mine has not gone up that much, but mulch is a very fuel intensive product[QUOTE=MarcSmith]

I agree

grass_cuttin_fool
08-01-2006, 04:25 PM
Another thing also. Power plants are willing to pay more for wood products now that other fuel prices have gone up so much. Early in the spring I went to the local sawmill to get a load of mulch and they had sold all they had to the powwer plant for fuel

wayne

TysonsTree
10-10-2006, 08:34 AM
Any one out there in Northern VA (Eastern Panhandle WV <> Hagerstown MD <> Frederick MD <> Arlington/Alex VA <> DC metro area) interested in some new mulch price quotes?

Have your standard (dark brown) double shredded hardwood mix & current some Cedar mulch in stock? We are the mfr & have our own supply sources. Looking to make some last minute deals for the end of the season.. Call me for quote.

I am also seeking leaf waste & can make incredible deals for dumping at our site near Berryville VA (25 mins away from Leesburg).

Thanx.

Jeff_BriggsMML
10-26-2006, 03:35 PM
I purchase all our bulk mulch from a company approxmately 100 miles away and am paying .50 cents more for the mulch and a 75.00 fuel surcharge when they bring me 80 yards my cost is still only $14.94 a yard for double proccessed brown hardwood. We wholesale it for $19.00 a yard and retail it for $24.00 a yard. So far we have been through over 700 yards this year.

casco73
04-01-2007, 12:40 PM
I am selling triple ground hardwood for $23.00 a Yard. But I charde $30.00 for delivery local within 5 miles and I charge by the zip code after that.

Do you sell black dyed? If so how much? Mulch It is just getting to much$$

Duekster
04-01-2007, 12:45 PM
Now I could see $1-2, but $5? Your telling me that the freight costs went up $350 in a fuel surcharge, I have a hard time believing that.

Likely the suppliers have been holding on and not increasing for so long that when they checked it came out a little higher.

topsites
04-03-2007, 04:37 PM
Every single machine involved in the production of mulch consumes petrol.

Mr. Vern
04-03-2007, 05:43 PM
Likely the suppliers have been holding on and not increasing for so long that when they checked it came out a little higher.

We produce mulches of several varieties including colored mulches, and what Duekster said is dead on for us this year. Every expense in our supply chain has increased several percent since January 06. I re-run the costs analyses every quarter, and this January we decided to pass the cost along to our customers. We raised our prices just over 5% so it looks like a large jump, but it just gets our margins to where they were 3 years ago. We will watch them erode for the next several quarters, and when they drop by around 5% we will raise our prices again. Fuel is an absolute killer as are wages and payroll burden.

The comment about co-gen plants buying it all up is accurate as well. We were able to negotiate much better pricing from our co-gen customers this year - we had to guarantee them certain minimum supply to get the good prices, but they are motivated to buy fuel.

rlander06
05-19-2007, 09:30 PM
I have two place here in Rochester that sells triple ground for $20.00 a yard.
I don`t know what they charge for delivery, I can find out if you`d like.

Rlclawnguy
05-24-2007, 01:24 PM
who in Rochester sells for $20 a yard?

rlander06
05-25-2007, 08:22 AM
These are the two companys that sell mulch for $20.00 in Rochester that I know of. Cobblestone Nursery, Whittier Landscape and Design

Rlclawnguy
05-25-2007, 08:49 AM
are those on the westside of the city?

Duekster
05-30-2007, 08:22 AM
We produce mulches of several varieties including colored mulches, and what Duekster said is dead on for us this year. Every expense in our supply chain has increased several percent since January 06. I re-run the costs analyses every quarter, and this January we decided to pass the cost along to our customers. We raised our prices just over 5% so it looks like a large jump, but it just gets our margins to where they were 3 years ago. We will watch them erode for the next several quarters, and when they drop by around 5% we will raise our prices again. Fuel is an absolute killer as are wages and payroll burden.

The comment about co-gen plants buying it all up is accurate as well. We were able to negotiate much better pricing from our co-gen customers this year - we had to guarantee them certain minimum supply to get the good prices, but they are motivated to buy fuel.

I hate it when I am right :)

rlander06
05-30-2007, 04:56 PM
are those on the westside of the city?

Greece area:cool2:

Rlclawnguy
06-02-2007, 07:36 AM
We sell triple ground for $21 to contractors @ Wambachs in Penfield

Danltiger
06-04-2007, 06:37 PM
Never heard of either Cobblestone or Whittier in Greece. Do you have phone numbers, Rlander?

rlander06
06-04-2007, 08:17 PM
Sorry its Cobble Creek Farms in Spencerport Ridge Rd. Phone 352-8484

Danltiger
06-05-2007, 04:04 PM
Thanks Rlander :-)

I called Cobble Creek - $20 per yard for double ground. Looks like Wambachs has a good deal (if you're a contractor ;-)

Pro-Scapes
06-07-2007, 08:38 AM
I didnt think we jumped but a quick call to our normal supplier yielded 30 a yard for crushed (popular here)

Quick call to the manufacture came up with 12.15 a yard... 15 miles further but well worth it I think

andrewcarrigan
06-10-2007, 02:21 PM
its costing us in alberta 55.00 a yard in alberta

prizeprop
08-18-2007, 08:00 PM
Where we buy it it actually went down.If you buy a min of 10 yrds its $6.00 a yrd(triple ground root).They produce it on site. Make out like bandits @ $75.00 installed!