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Electra_Glide
04-14-2006, 02:12 PM
Both of these trucks are at a dealer about an hour away from me. Gonna' cruise over and take a look at them, but on the surface, which one is a better deal?

Truck #1: 1988 GMC 3500, 350 V8, 4spd. manual, 68000 miles, 2WD, brand new electric over hydraulic dump bed, 11k GVW: $8500

Truck #2: 1990 Ford F450, 7.3L diesel, 5spd. manual, 100k miles, 2WD, brand new electric over hydraulic dump bed, 15k GVW: $10500

Both trucks are in good condition with brand new dump beds. These are the dealers asking price, so I'm sure there's some room to move.

I've given up trying to find a decent 5-yrd truck (bigger than I really need right now anyway), and I've decided to focus on trying to find a smaller truck. Looked at a bunch of them, and this is the best thing I've come across so far.

Use for the truck is light excavation (skidsteer and mini-ex). I'd like to go for the F450, but the GMC is a better fit for my price range.

Take care...

Joe

grassmanak
04-14-2006, 02:17 PM
Id buy the GMC, the one ton will be plenty, maybe be a bit more costly on gas, but its 2000 less, plus lower miles.

Gravel Rat
04-14-2006, 03:01 PM
Lets put it this way if both truck have the same size bed on them the Chevys max payload will be 3500lbs the F-Superduty (F-450) will be 7500lbs.

When I went to my first F-Superduty which was a 88 and I found out how good they worked I would be very hard pressed to go back to a smaller truck.

The 1 tons have very very poor braking power they don't handle a load very well either. The first load of gravel I hauled on my 88 was 8000lbs and it handled it fine I was sold never again going to a 1 ton for heavier hauling.

So to sum it up I wouldn't even consider the 1 ton Chevy especially if you want to haul gravel with it for your jobs.

zim bob the landscaper
04-14-2006, 09:01 PM
id get the chevy definatly. our truck has hauled over the gvwr or w/e we pulled alot and hauled about a ton with a 3/4 ton and it did fine just a little more gas.

Gravel Rat
04-15-2006, 12:45 AM
Another way to put it I have grossed my F-Superduty trucks to almost 18,000lbs you definatly can't do that with the Chevy. The rear axle in the F-Superduty has a 11,000lb capacity so it techically could carry the weight of the loaded Chevy.

The F-Superduty has 4 wheel disk brakes it will stop any size load the 1 ton Chevy has drum brakes on the rear you will get major brake fade.

Its up to you but you would be wasting money buying the Chevy.

zim bob the landscaper
04-15-2006, 11:29 AM
wel there is a f-250 on here or f-350 that was squatting and he had a crap load of trees which was maybe 12,000 punds cant remember but maybe the guy that posted the pics can tell you.

efaubert1
04-19-2006, 12:58 PM
There is no comparison between a 1 ton Chevy with a 350ci motor and a 1.25 ton diesel with 4 wheel disc brakes and a GVWR that is double the Chevy's. They are not even in the same class. Maybe if it was the new chevy gasser maybe, but not the old 350.

lwcmattlifter
04-19-2006, 04:10 PM
F-450, You'll overload the 3500 quick plus the F-450 has overdrive, and a diesel engine. No matter which engine the Chevy has the 7.3IDI will out pull it.

PerennialSuccess
04-19-2006, 07:14 PM
I think the Ford is the best bet, despite being more costly, I believe it has a far greater earning potential. Even if mainly used for what you currently want, a truck that size can do a heck of a lot more. Both trucks have very good engines, but the 350 is just no match for the 7.3 in power or durability.

start2finish
04-19-2006, 08:22 PM
also the diesel will have a better resale value.

Gravel Rat
04-19-2006, 09:15 PM
You could run the F-450 till it dies usually the cab finally falls off before the rest of the truck wears out.

The resale value on IDIs are not that high the truck has a 7.3 no turbo so its not a big power engine but will out work the 350. I had a 89 F-450 with 7.3 IDI used the truck for 4 years I went to a 95 PSD F-450.

The old IDIs are easy to work on and reliable your biggest fear is cavitation its a engine distroyer. With out any coolant maintenance records you are kinda staring down a barrel of a gun. If you buy the truck flush the cooling system make sure it has a good rad and add new coolant with the additive from Ford.

lawnmaniac883
04-19-2006, 09:42 PM
Great advice about the cavitation issue, as for which is the better value? I would go diesel.

Electra_Glide
04-24-2006, 09:17 AM
Well, I went and looked at it, but to make a long story short, I didn't buy it. It needed to have a plate and pintle put on it, a complete wiring harness, and two new steer tires. Salesman wouldn't take my offer ($8500).

I ended up finding a '95 Chevy 3500, 2WD, automatic, 69k miles, 9' bed. Picked it up Friday. All I need to do is change the fluids, get it inspected, and install a brake controller. Not necessarily the truck I wanted, but I'm WAY behind the curve on getting something on the road for this year, so I took it. The way I see it, if things go decent this year, I can alway replace/augment it next year.


Joe

J&R Landscaping
04-24-2006, 01:22 PM
The 7.3 in the f450 would not only be able to handle heavier loads but it would do great on fuel and give you longevity despite all the heavy hauling. Them 7.3 idi motors were great IMO.