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6'7 330
04-19-2006, 01:51 AM
On May 1st, Hispanic organizations are calling for all Hispanic immigrants in the United States to skip work, and avoid spending money to show their importance to the U.S. economy. This action is an extension of the protests over the immigration legislation. If all immigrant workers do strike a day, around these parts restaurants, landscapers, and a not a few other businesses would be shut down tight. Has anyone discussed this possible no show day with your employees? If your employees do a no-show on May 1; the question probably should be, would your relationship with your employees change for worse afterward? Or would you fire them?

Soupy
04-19-2006, 02:22 AM
Won't effect my area, but It will be something worth keeping an eye on. What is their reasoning behind all this? Do they think they are being treated unfair?

Olylawnboy
04-19-2006, 02:46 AM
Are you referring to legit employees? If the illegals shut down it would surely show the problem we have in a big way. But how would that change anything? The biggest problem we really have is the employers that hire the illegals in the first place. That is what should not be taking place. That's what's messing things up. It's just not possible to compete with a company that does not have the same legal costs as we, the legitimate company's of this country. I could have it made if I could run my business without paying all the cost of having legit employees. Gosh, If I could pay cash without any withholding, insurance, such, there would be no competition in my market on my end. I would have it all! ....

Turf Dancer
04-19-2006, 08:38 AM
I wish they would do that for a couple weeks it could help me out in a big way as my calls in another area would probably go up! Maybe they will all migrate back home if they don't like the way they are being treated!

MarcSmith
04-19-2006, 08:46 AM
Its kinda like the email abotu not buying gas on one day. Big deal...One dya is not gonna bring us to our knees. Now if they did a strike or a sickout for a week or so, then it would begin to hurt. I'm not going to mention it to my guys and I'll see what happens.....I all my hispanics take the day off, then There will be some issues.....

dkeisala
04-19-2006, 11:51 AM
I say screw them, let them strike and I hope they all get fired. That would be the big f**k you they deserve. Nothing like trying to strong-arm us into amnesty. "I realize I'm breaking the law and I'm p!ssed that you have the nerve to punish me for it." Try telling that to the judge next time you get a moving violation.

I have a friend that went to live in Mexico for a couple of years. While it was a legal trip, she said it was impossible to get a job because all jobs go to nationals first and foreigners last (righfully so). I realize Mexico is screwed up but do a little research and find out how they treat illegal immigrants.

MarcSmith
04-19-2006, 12:27 PM
she said it was impossible to get a job because all jobs go to nationals first and foreigners last (righfully so).

Problem is there are too many nationals sucking at the teat of welfare and those who have no desire to perform our kinds of chores.

jtkplc
04-19-2006, 12:50 PM
I just don't understand how these illegal immigrants even get a voice. You're here illegally, shut up and go home and do it the right way if you want to be an American citizen. I say let them not work, then anyone who didn't, ship them back home.

Another thing that pisses me off, why in the heck to we have to start putting their language on stuff. They all need to learn english, not us Americans learn spanish. :usflag:

Duramax99
04-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Let them strike, it will show how much we dont need them and maybe people will start to appericate quality work more.

AintNoFun
04-19-2006, 07:11 PM
man does that drive me fing nuts. you can take the NJ driver license test in a crapload of different languages but what good does that do when all the road signs and pretty much everything else is in english.. thats my biggest thing with the whole immigration crap, if you can learn or willing to learn english, be gone...



Another thing that pisses me off, why in the heck to we have to start putting their language on stuff. They all need to learn english, not us Americans learn spanish. :usflag:

muddstopper
04-19-2006, 08:41 PM
Any employee of mine that goes on strike is fired, end of story. and I aint referring to any one particular race. I pay them to work, I set the hours, and I expect them to be at work, on time, every day or I dont need them, period.

topsites
04-19-2006, 11:03 PM
I wish they would do that for a couple weeks it could help me out in a big way as my calls in another area would probably go up! Maybe they will all migrate back home if they don't like the way they are being treated!

I think all illegal immigrants should take at least the whole rest of the year off in protest lol !

6'7 330
04-20-2006, 12:35 AM
If the illegal immigrants have a strike, that would not be a concern as far as my work force goes .I do have concerns if immigrant workers like our legal immigrant employees do a no show .I haven’t talked about this issue with them, and don’t plan to, I will see what comes down. Our guys are making good money, and are treated right; I doubt they would do a no show.

My grand parents on both side were immigrants, they didn't quite make the dream them selves, but they worked they asses off, so their children and grand chilren could.So i emphasize with LEGAL immigrants.No matter where they come from,Eastern Europe, Central and South America,worker shortages are going to make their immigrant labor in the future an even bigger necessity.

AmeriLawn
04-20-2006, 02:56 AM
I cant help to get gut rot when I here people even begin to start to sweat the H2b cap in this country. I have physically been in one of the largest lawn companies corporate annual conferences in Florida. Only to here how everyone in 05 was worried about H2b caps. I took a bold stand in among'st 700 operation, branch, regional and corporate level managers as they were all trying to figure a way to deal with the cap. Only to interupt, to have them explain to me all the other resources they were utilizing in recruiting the jobs to america's workers. You should have heard the gasp in the air, it was beautiful, but short. Thank God I dont work there anymore. So, I will first say, that Hispanic's can be good and bad workers. Hispanics can break and obey the law. Hispanic's can be legal and illegal. The bottom line is we dont own this country anymore or ever did. Unless you go out and buy as much land as possible, our country is a subway for all. Always has been, and always will be. United States of America has turned in to a business. You have to pay everywhere you turn and if you feel your free here. Think again. Besides my choice of what to buy at Walmart. Our freedoms are limited. Its a disguise.Yea, there are countries out there that have no freedom at all. Especially communist countries. But did you know that many other countries have democracy and freedoms, no diffrent or more than the US. I can move to Australia and have my freedom of religion. I can move to Amsterdam and ya know. I can move to canada and get a hell of lot better health care. We as Americans in 2006 are dillusional. Money dictates this country. All of my fore fathers were immigrants and all but one were military active. My concern is security and yea not having to push 1 for english everytime I call the bank. Im white, Im Irish/German, and many of my forefathers bled their life on the soil of this country. One even in the line of duty of law enforcement. My great-grandfather and grandfather and father have all told me this country is headed to disaster. If you go to Mexico as an illegal alien, believe it or not the punishment is equal to if not worse. So how can these folks come to our country and cause disruption when in their own its just as bad. That is where the answer lies. I would deport all illegals. And make it known to all, me no speaka english folks, if your busted as an illegal your right to ever enter this country is abolished. That would send a clear message back home attached to those 1000$ Western Union transactions at Kmart. I hope they refuse work on May 1st. Then maybe then, our so called sheppard of republicans can quit ignoring the fact that we need to start taking care of the existing people of this country and quit feeding those Middle eastern kids, whose dads blew up our Trade centers, Kellogs cereal. Im so sick of paying high prices at the hardware store because of all the supplies going to the Middle east, when the government cant even give the money to State of Louisana without doing a cost analyst of whether or not is profitable or cost efficient. Even though you should build on a rock, not sand. Doesnt take the bible to teach me that. I am against building a fence along the border, I am against not letting people immigrate legally into this country, and yes, Im against having to speak two languages to communicate with a crew member. So, I apologize for getting deep on this issue. I own a Lawn Care company in the Midwest where Illegal aliens are predominately now becoming like it was when I left Texas in 1999. Sad to say it, I live down the street from a large corporate "SPAM" factory. OOPS, shouldnt have let that out. I know they have a large billboard in Brownsville, TX. that clearly states to come MN to work. We have great wages. And sure enough there here and politically, there protected. Illegals break the law, the keep them out of jail and send them back to work because in my town, that corporate "SPAM" factory doesnt want to be to blame for the increased crime rate. Who could blame them. So, for all you guys in the Lawn care world. How about you boycotting all the damn mexican food places? And I love mexican food. So dig deep, save your money, if you think our country had problems now, wait till your kids or their kids get older, you just rent here. Oh buy the Way, the name of my Lawn care co. is AMERILAWN. I believe in this country. I have to, my family died for it.

AMERILAWN 's Mission Statement
(which goes to every customer)

"Establish a work enviroment Loyal to its Customer's and Employee's"

"Provide Our Customer's with a "Affordable Freedom of Choice"

"Dedicate Our Services with the Spirit that We Owe Our Customers"

"Protect Our Enviroment, Our Country, Our Community and Instill Patriotic Duty":usflag:

Absolute Weed C
04-20-2006, 03:18 AM
Hmmmm, I wonder if anyone has really understood the meaning of illegal immigrant? They can all strike as far as i am concerned. If any of our resident aliens decide to no show well, they wont have to worry about a job. They will be replaced that day. Want to know a simple solution to the whole illegal problem?

It could be deemed very harsh but really think about it and it will solve 2 problems.

Do away with the permanent welfare program. There is no reason for people to rest on it, when they need a raise they have another child. no wonder we are getting lazy.

If you disolve the program then the illegals will have to compete with the Americans needing to support thier own needs.

Just a thought

6'7 330
04-20-2006, 03:21 AM
I cant help to get gut rot when I here people even begin to start to sweat the H2b cap in this country. I have physically been in one of the largest lawn companies corporate annual conferences in Florida. Only to here how everyone in 05 was worried about H2b caps. I took a bold stand in among'st 700 operation, branch, regional and corporate level managers as they were all trying to figure a way to deal with the cap. Only to interupt, to have them explain to me all the other resources they were utilizing in recruiting the jobs to america's workers. You should have heard the gasp in the air, it was beautiful, but short. Thank God I dont work there anymore. So, I will first say, that Hispanic's can be good and bad workers. Hispanics can break and obey the law. Hispanic's can be legal and illegal. The bottom line is we dont own this country anymore or ever did. Unless you go out and buy as much land as possible, our country is a subway for all. Always has been, and always will be. United States of America has turned in to a business. You have to pay everywhere you turn and if you feel your free here. Think again. Besides my choice of what to buy at Walmart. Our freedoms are limited. Its a disguise.Yea, there are countries out there that have no freedom at all. Especially communist countries. But did you know that many other countries have democracy and freedoms, no diffrent or more than the US. I can move to Australia and have my freedom of religion. I can move to Amsterdam and ya know. I can move to canada and get a hell of lot better health care. We as Americans in 2006 are dillusional. Money dictates this country. All of my fore fathers were immigrants and all but one were military active. My concern is security and yea not having to push 1 for english everytime I call the bank. Im white, Im Irish/German, and many of my forefathers bled their life on the soil of this country. One even in the line of duty of law enforcement. My great-grandfather and grandfather and father have all told me this country is headed to disaster. If you go to Mexico as an illegal alien, believe it or not the punishment is equal to if not worse. So how can these folks come to our country and cause disruption when in their own its just as bad. That is where the answer lies. I would deport all illegals. And make it known to all, me no speaka english folks, if your busted as an illegal your right to ever enter this country is abolished. That would send a clear message back home attached to those 1000$ Western Union transactions at Kmart. I hope they refuse work on May 1st. Then maybe then, our so called sheppard of republicans can quit ignoring the fact that we need to start taking care of the existing people of this country and quit feeding those Middle eastern kids, whose dads blew up our Trade centers, Kellogs cereal. Im so sick of paying high prices at the hardware store because of all the supplies going to the Middle east, when the government cant even give the money to State of Louisana without doing a cost analyst of whether or not is profitable or cost efficient. Even though you should build on a rock, not sand. Doesnt take the bible to teach me that. I am against building a fence along the border, I am against not letting people immigrate legally into this country, and yes, Im against having to speak two languages to communicate with a crew member. So, I apologize for getting deep on this issue. I own a Lawn Care company in the Midwest where Illegal aliens are predominately now becoming like it was when I left Texas in 1999. Sad to say it, I live down the street from a large corporate "SPAM" factory. OOPS, shouldnt have let that out. I know they have a large billboard in Brownsville, TX. that clearly states to come MN to work. We have great wages. And sure enough there here and politically, there protected. Illegals break the law, the keep them out of jail and send them back to work because in my town, that corporate "SPAM" factory doesnt want to be to blame for the increased crime rate. Who could blame them. So, for all you guys in the Lawn care world. How about you boycotting all the damn mexican food places? And I love mexican food. So dig deep, save your money, if you think our country had problems now, wait till your kids or their kids get older, you just rent here. Oh buy the Way, the name of my Lawn care co. is AMERILAWN. I believe in this country. I have to, my family died for it.

AMERILAWN 's Mission Statement
(which goes to every customer)

"Establish a work enviroment Loyal to its Customer's and Employee's"

"Provide Our Customer's with a "Affordable Freedom of Choice"

"Dedicate Our Services with the Spirit that We Owe Our Customers"

"Protect Our Enviroment, Our Country, Our Community and Instill Patriotic Duty":usflag:


You want to get into the dieing for one country? And whats makes an American? PATRIOTIC DUTY?My 4 brothers served in vietnam, an uncle was kia in nam, my dad fought in WW2 and Korea .Grand dad as a Scottish immigrant who fought at bellou wood, my other grand dad fought at the Somme with the royal Scots, he was funny sounding immigrant, who came to America in 1923.Cousins who died in nam, a nephew who died in 2004 in Iraq.My grandparents were immigrants, and I will stack the blood they begot that bled for this country against any other family in the 200 some odd years of this country's existence.The same ole these people are destoying this country was said about, Italians, poles, slavic peoples, during they great immigrant waves at the turn of the last century .The Irish were all drunks, and sex maniac's etc.



Legal immigrant , native White, black, blue, colored like dog piss, our laborers get paid the same very GOOD wage, and I am not after dirt cheap labor, I’m after people WHO WILL WORK, without crying and pissing all day lets take a break. Or showing up for work doped out of their mind, or hung over from a falling down drunk the previous night before work. I need workers who will work, and the immigrants will. I don’t need the lazy ass crack head, been in the pen, pool of Americans around here, they just don’t cut it. That is the way it is around here, the work force is so lazy, doped and weed headed, Dead lice won’t fall off them.

Absolute Weed C
04-20-2006, 03:28 AM
You want to get into the dieing for one country? And whats makes an American? PATRIOTIC DUTY?My 4 brothers served in vietnam, an uncle was kia in nam, my dad fought in WW2 and Korea .Grand dad as a Scottish immigrant who fought at bellou wood, my other grand dad fought at the Somme with the royal Scots, he was funny sounding immigrant, who came to America in 1923.Cousins who died in nam, a nephew who died in 2004 in Iraq.My grandparents were immigrants, and I will stack the blood they begot that bled for this country against any other family in the 200 some odd years of this country's existence.The same ole these people are destoying this country was said about, Italians, poles, slavic peoples, during they great immigrant waves at the turn of the century .The Irish were all drunks, and sex maniac's etc.



Legal immigrant , native White, black, blue, colored like dog piss, our laborers get paid the same very GOOD wage, and I am not after dirt cheap labor, I’m after people WHO WILL WORK, without crying and pissing all day lets take a break. Or showing up for work doped out of their mind, or hung over from a falling down drunk the previous night before work. I need workers who will work, and the immigrants will. I don’t need the lazy ass crack head, been in the pen, pool of Americans around here, they just don’t cut it. That is the way it is around here, the work force is so lazy, doped and weed headed, Dead lice won’t fall off them.


Grand father WW2, Father Korea, Uncles Viet Nam, Me Desert Storm ( 17yrs service before getting severly injured) Son Iraq. I think my patriotism allows me to comment

Frontier-Lawn
04-20-2006, 09:43 AM
if i had employees and they did that. this would happen; In the words of Donald Trump......... YOUR FIRED. Please Leave now. :nono:

Frontier-Lawn
04-20-2006, 09:46 AM
Also if you want to be in the :usflag: be a legal person if you dont want to be here legally get out! and start :walking: Thats why theres no jobs any more in areas, too many illegals and over seas outsourcing. :hammerhead:

K.Carothers
04-20-2006, 10:45 PM
May 1st, 2006 ----

Grab them all and toss their illegal, system sucking, non speaking English a@@ back over the boarder.

Also don't forget the chip in their ass that we can zap when they get within 100yards of the United States.

It made me sick when they were walking the streets waving that ugly flag from Mexico.


kc

BCF
04-21-2006, 09:31 PM
Another thing that pisses me off, why in the heck to we have to start putting their language on stuff. They all need to learn english, not us Americans learn spanish. :usflag:

Damn straight!! I hate going to the ATM at WaWa and having to scroll through 8 different languages to get the English. At least put it up top!

grass-scapes
04-21-2006, 10:06 PM
man does that drive me fing nuts. you can take the NJ driver license test in a crapload of different languages but what good does that do when all the road signs and pretty much everything else is in english.. thats my biggest thing with the whole immigration crap, if you can learn or willing to learn english, be gone...

If things keep up, they will be in both english and spanish. Have you called many places lately and noticed that you have to press 1 for engish or 2 for spanish?

J&R Landscaping
04-21-2006, 10:13 PM
SPEAK ENGLISH OR GET THE F^CK OUT!!! When Americans go to other countries, we need to know the language, they don't have english listed like we do spanish french dutch etc!

Frontier-Lawn
04-21-2006, 10:17 PM
from my local tv station

Chambers support illegal immigrant walkout

In an unprecedented move, three Suncoast chambers of commerce announce they will support the illegal immigrant walkout set for May 1st. It's a decision that illegals and migrant workers say they hope will have a statewide impact.

It's a controversial stance that already has chamber leaders asking business members of the community to stay calm. They say without this position, immigrants threatened a weeklong protest. It’s something that could be devastating to the local economy, but now immigrants say the walkout will only be for one day.

In a statement released by the Greater Sarasota Chamber of Commerce, leaders recommend business employers to acknowledge the demonstrations planned for May 1st and respect the workers who take part in them.

The Sarasota Chamber is joined by the Manatee County Chamber of Commerce and the Gulf Coast Latin Chamber of Commerce.

Advocates say the Suncoast business community is sending a strong message to other communities in the state to stand behind immigrant workers, illegal or not.

Some businesses are even going so far as to shut down operations may first to show their support for the people they employ.

“As one side makes their point with the marches of the last several weeks and the proposed walkout of work on May 1st, I think that the other side, our government, is making their point as well,” says President of Taylor and Fulton Packing Jay Taylor.

Taylor, of course, is referring to the recent INS roundup of illegal immigrants working for a German-based company. He says his decision to close business on the first shows the company's solidarity.

MarcSmith
04-22-2006, 12:16 PM
Charlotte and sarrasota counties have to be the most screwed up in florida..glad I'm not there any more....

Remeber those who walked out and express your displeasure with you wallet and do nor joig these groups..Not that the chamber of commerce is the endall anyhow....

Dirty Water
04-22-2006, 12:41 PM
SPEAK ENGLISH OR GET THE F^CK OUT!!! When Americans go to other countries, we need to know the language, they don't have english listed like we do spanish french dutch etc!

Actually they do.

Don't travel much do you?

JJLandscapes
04-23-2006, 07:17 PM
everyone needs to chill you know they arent smart enough to actually pull it off lol jk

but anyways realize they are working 90 hours a week for a reason because they need every dollar they make they cant afford to not work for a day is the honest truth which is why i feel none will do it

Frontier-Lawn
04-23-2006, 07:27 PM
may 1st one day ha, its supposed to be a week long strike!!!!!

Turf Dancer
04-23-2006, 08:15 PM
For the money wasted in one week in Iraq we could build one big wall across the border with Mexico. I think about 30 ft. with razor wire and electric fences would slow them down. I am tired of seeing all the crap around here on the poor illegal immigrants. Let them go back to Mexico and then try to get in here legally. I say post guards on that big wall and let them shoot anyone crossing it. "When in Rome, do as the Romans" If they come here they should be legal and speak English. I also think that any company that knowingly employs illegal immigrants should be shut down just the same as a restaurant that can't pass a health inspection and they should throw the idiots in jail that hired them. We should have a zero tolerance for the practice of hiring illegal immigrants. Here is one example of what I am talking about, there is a lawn care/ landscaping company within 150 miles of here that has about 80 employees this time of year. According to one of their human resources people I know they only have 38 on the actual payroll she said that she has asked questions and the owners tell her to worry about the people on the payroll and not to worry about the rest of them. She said a former employee told her that the Labor department would not do anything about it because it would stir up the Hispanic community. What a bunch of crap. I am sick to death of directions in multiple languages, having to wait in lines in the store because the poor illegals can't understand the "official language ENGLISH", having to have someone translate that gibberish that they speak into something that resembles English. I say dump them off at the border and let them go home where they belong. Then shut off the welfare money 3 months after they are all gone. That should allow enough time to get all the folks on welfare working at all the jobs the illegals left open. We can use the money that welfare was giving out to everyone that were sitting on their butts to help with child care and medical care for the elderly. That is my opinion on the subject.

JimLewis
04-29-2006, 10:04 PM
It's actually a pretty big concern. We have over a dozen hispanics working for us. I don't know that any of them are illegal. But still, I've heard that all hispanics are striking - everywhere - regardless of whether they are legal or not.

My first instinct is to definitely fire them. I even told a few of my guys that today. I said, "You don't show up on Monday, you can show up on Tuesday to get a final paycheck"

But the reality is quite different. I can't just fire all my experienced guys in the midst of our busiest season on record. We have almost a month worth of large installation jobs on the books. And these jobs need guys with experience. I can't just all of a sudden go hire 12 new guys with the right experience. So what would happen is I'd have to delay my jobs and then when I hired new workers I'd have to train them all. Even workers with experience need to be trained a lot. It takes a long time to get them to understand how I like things to be done, where our suppliers are, how to use our charge accounts, etc. Worst case, all of our jobs would go much slower with these new guys. So firing everyone isn't really a great option, although I am tempted.

Anyway, everyone I talked to said they were definitely showing up on Monday. So we'll see. If not, the stuff's gonna hit the fan!

kipcom
04-30-2006, 05:41 AM
Its going to be a BIG production day for all of the "Temp Labor Service" companys on May 1st :usflag:

Think about it...it is the perfect opportunity for the immigration service to round-up all of the illegal immigrants in one place when they do their protest at what ever location.

If they are "Legal" US citizens....great,,,,, if not'''''''''' Get out of our country and re-enter legally or pay the penalty.

Pro-test-ing in large groups is just the ignorant peoples way of not having to speak out and be heard on their own.

Signed :::

1 of Americas Bravest

bugspit
04-30-2006, 07:24 AM
On May 1st, 2006... "Illegal" non-citizens in this country are going to stage a protest. A protest against America. Against American citizens who believe we need stronger border security, and tougher laws concerning those who break them and enter this country "illegally". They are going to take the day off from their "illegal" jobs and not spend money in order to show our congress how much we really depend on their "criminal" activity.

Unfortunately, "legal" working citizens in this country won't be able to take the day off and counter protest. Mostly because we'll be busy that day doing "those jobs that American's won't do". So let's all get together and remind our elected officials who really is the "life blood" of this great country. Let's declare May 1st, 2006 the day we Buy America Back!!!

We need to do 2 things:
#1. Take note of which businesses suffer without their illegal labor and boycott them from May 1st forward.

#2. ( and most important ) BUY BUY BUY!
Prove to our politicians who really is the life blood of our economy. If you are planning to buy anything in the near future, buy it on May 1st! It doesn’t matter if it’s a big ticket item like a car, computer or big screen TV, or a even a tube of toothpaste, buy it on May 1st. Let’s make May 1st an even bigger shopping day than the day after Thanksgiving.

http://www.markchristopher.net/56k/800.htm

CutInEdge Lawn Care
04-30-2006, 10:26 AM
http://www.local6.com/news/9097542/detail.html