if u had an employee......

[bobbygedd]

say u had an employee, and after, say 6 months, he just fizzled out, and quit without notice . a couple months later, he applies for a job elsewhere. he fills out the aplication, and lists you as one of his former employers. the possible future employer calls you, and , asks questions. what will you tell this possible future employer?

[Idealtim]

after, say 6 months, he just fizzled out, and quit without notice .
That exactly... Is there more to this than meets the eye?

[dougmartin2003]

well if he was a good working i would give him a good word, i will not lie to anyone for any reason

[grass-scapes]

in this litigious society in which we live, I would give dates of employment only and if asked if I would rehire, I would say no. "company policy doesn't allow divulging any further information"

[bobbygedd]

in this litigious society in which we live, I would give dates of employment only and if asked if I would rehire, I would say no. "company policy doesn't allow divulging any further information"
good answer

[PROCUT1]

Same here we only accept a reference request by mail or fax and I have a form from my lawyer that I mail or fax back. The only thing it lists is the dates of employment.

[XMT&RCV]

For all of you who didn't know this, listen up!


You cannot and I repeat cannot offer anything negative about a previous employee.. no matter how rude, irresponsible or cluts they were... it will come back to haunt you.. There is a thing called defamation of character and it can cost you. You may only say yes or no to the inquiring employers questions. There are 2 ways around this... 1. you can say that you wouldn't hire this person again. 2. Inform them that they are asking the wrong questions.. hint hint... it sux I know..

Quoting:grass-scapes "company policy doesn't allow it"

[cwlawley]

^That's right. It is illegal.

[Branchland]

I'd just tell the truth. The dates he worked for me, if he was a hard/good worker, if he was on time. Then just tell them that he quit coming to work on such and such date. That's not negative, just the truth.

[PROCUT1]

I'd just tell the truth. The dates he worked for me, if he was a hard/good worker, if he was on time. Then just tell them that he quit coming to work on such and such date. That's not negative, just the truth.


Unfortunately the truth can land you in a courtroom very quick.

Give the dates of employment and thats it. You cannot risk giving out anything else. Its a tough thing to do. Ive had many previous employees that left in such a negative way and I know would love to cause me problems, but I still hold back and only provide that information.

It amazes me that some people actually put me down as an employment reference.

[PROCUT1]

^That's right. It is illegal.

Its not so much that it's illegal. You can tell the truth if you like and most likely as long as you told the truth, you would not be liable for anything.

BUTTTTT!!

Do you want to spend your time paying a lawyer $200 an hour to defend you in a courtroom just to prove that you were right in the end?

[JJLandscapes]

in this litigious society in which we live, I would give dates of employment only and if asked if I would rehire, I would say no. "company policy doesn't allow divulging any further information"
states have laws on what can be asked and told on references ...if u care be careful... i know in NY you can only say the dates and if u would re hire

you can even say if they got fired for stealing anything or getting in a fight with customers or you get can get in trouble

[StBalor]

say u had an employee, and after, say 6 months, he just fizzled out, and quit without notice . a couple months later, he applies for a job elsewhere. he fills out the aplication, and lists you as one of his former employers. the possible future employer calls you, and , asks questions. what will you tell this possible future employer?

After reading your posts Bobby, i would say your a hard ass. Anyone else surprised the employee lasted 6 months?
After that being said, i am striving to be more like you.

[CutInEdge Lawn Care]

Too many people take employment to personal. IT'S JUST PART OF BUSINESS!!! It's like working the the jone's, Once the obligation has been met, you move on. No more, No less. Never hold anyone back. Teach like you have never taught before. Granted some employees will never amount to more than the aluminum of one can of good suds but keep the good cans and your business will grow. Just my .02 stupids

[K.Carothers]

For all of you who didn't know this, listen up!


You cannot and I repeat cannot offer anything negative about a previous employee.. no matter how rude, irresponsible or cluts they were... it will come back to haunt you.. There is a thing called defamation of character and it can cost you. You may only say yes or no to the inquiring employers questions. There are 2 ways around this... 1. you can say that you wouldn't hire this person again. 2. Inform them that they are asking the wrong questions.. hint hint... it sux I know..

Quoting:grass-scapes "company policy doesn't allow it"


Very true.


kc

[Gene $immons]

This happened to me recently. And the place my ex employee was trying to get a job at was with one of my friends in the business. I told the truth about him.

[JJLandscapes]

After reading your posts Bobby, i would say your a hard ass. Anyone else surprised the employee lasted 6 months?
After that being said, i am striving to be more like you.
thats how you run a successful business u gotta put a little fear in your employees eyes

[Brianslawn]

i just say that the law prevents me from saying anything bad about someone.... so i wont say anything at all.

[M RASCOE&SONS]

around here if you say anything other than yes or no to hiring him back it will get you in big trouble.

[mike lane lawn care]

you have put 50 posts on in one day bobby, isn't it time to get out there and work?

[Madstriper]

When I used to run an equipment rental store with a porta john operation, I had a guy always getting over on me. Taking twice as long to do the right, always late, etc. So on my desk top calendar, I just made a note, in plain view of everyone, what time he showed up each day, when he left early without permission, listed the customers name, job sites, and date and time, that called to complain on him. Finally, he was suppose to go on the 4 hour route, came back 7 hours later, the service truck wouldnt start and he got no toilets cleaned, and he lived 3 blocks away.
So, I fired him. He went to the employment office, they denied him. He protested, so the Employment Office called me, what kind of documentation do you have. I read off, day by day, from my desk calendar. She said We wont be hearing anything else from him, and told me if that guy has used us as a reference, that I should use this same info, if asked. The true will set you free, just didnt think it meant it would set him free from his job.