All This Immigration Stuff

[chuck bow]

What is everyones thoughts on this big planned boycott on monday. It seems to me they they are trying to tell us how this country should run and we should be thankful that they are here . To me this is OUR country and if they dont like it take the first bus back to the border

[bobbygedd]

let them have thier day off, who cares

[OnMyOwn]

I felt the same, at first, but somewhat understood how things came about after researching the issue. This day corresponds with May 1st in Mexico, which is a "legal" day of non-work. Most who work this day in Mexico are compensated at 2x the normal rate. It is a bit easier to take it as a cultural day off, rather than a assembled protest to the American economy.

[mexiking]

I have to support my people who suffer so much... It's not anything against the US, we just want to show that we are needed. The US was started by immigrants and now the immigrants of this era aren't treated right when the country does need them, like it always will need immigrants.

[SproulsMowingService]

I don't have a problem with anyone who has went through the trouble to become a legal citizen of the US, and who respects the country and what it stands for enough to learn the language (and use it), and work for a living (not live off of the peoples tax dollars).

But if all of the Illegal Immigrants want to take the day off, I'm all for it. It just makes it easier to know who is eligible for deportation or prison terms.

[mexiking]

I don't have a problem with anyone who has went through the trouble to become a legal citizen of the US, and who respects the country and what it stands for enough to learn the language (and use it), and work for a living (not live off of the peoples tax dollars).

But if all of the Illegal Immigrants want to take the day off, I'm all for it. It just makes it easier to know who is eligible for deportation or prison terms.

all hispanics, legal or not are supporting it...

[YardPro]

mexiking....

the whole debate is over ILLEGAL immigration...

as you stated this country was founded on immigrants..... LEGAL ONES.... not ones sneaking in and not paying taxes on thier incomes..

that is my main objection to this problem. The illegals use social services.. and cost the taxpayers money.. BUT they are paid cash and do not contribute to the social systems that they are benefiting from... this puts an unfair burden on those of us that work and pay taxes....

the same is true for ALL workers working for cash....

[mexiking]

mexiking....

the whole debate is over ILLEGAL immigration...

as you stated this country was founded on immigrants..... LEGAL ONES.... not ones sneaking in and not paying taxes on thier incomes..

that is my main objection to this problem. The illegals use social services.. and cost the taxpayers money.. BUT they are paid cash and do not contribute to the social systems that they are benefiting from... this puts an unfair burden on those of us that work and pay taxes....

the same is true for ALL workers working for cash....

yeah but I was hearing a report on TV the other day about the ones who do not get paid cash and have fake socials. They can't claim it for themselves since they are illegal and there is billions of dollars from these that goes into everyone elses social. The US could stop illegal immigrants if they wanted to, but they don't because they are very useful for the economy. I do agree for the ones who get paid cash but that is only some and that's the employers fault. If the employer doesn't ask the immigrant to report their taxes ( fake ss, than it's not the employers fault if it's fake or what not) they are not going to say anything of course. I'm not supporting the use of fake ss's, but sadly that is the scenarios of illegal aliens. In a lot of cases they do take out money for taxes like I said before, even though they are illegal. I was just reading on another post about this guy that hired 3 guys and they couldn't handle it. Most americans don't like doing this hard work so they quit right away. Immigrants come to make money so they can feed their familys, that is it...

[mexiking]

mexiking....

the whole debate is over ILLEGAL immigration...

as you stated this country was founded on immigrants..... LEGAL ONES.... not ones sneaking in and not paying taxes on thier incomes..

that is my main objection to this problem. The illegals use social services.. and cost the taxpayers money.. BUT they are paid cash and do not contribute to the social systems that they are benefiting from... this puts an unfair burden on those of us that work and pay taxes....

the same is true for ALL workers working for cash....

That's the thing too, illegal immigrants want to become "LEGAL" so they can report their taxes like everyone else... ( The ones that don't report, and the ones who do report but get no benefit)

[lawncare18]

I agreee with you mexking... most of them are sad storys... just trying to make money for there families back home. Also who do you usually see working at 7 or 8 at ngiht on a friday or sunday.. usually they rnt white americans working this late or hard they are mexicans.... sometime gota feel bad for some of them you see... just my thoughts

[mexiking]

mexiking....

the whole debate is over ILLEGAL immigration...

as you stated this country was founded on immigrants..... LEGAL ONES.... not ones sneaking in and not paying taxes on thier incomes..

that is my main objection to this problem. The illegals use social services.. and cost the taxpayers money.. BUT they are paid cash and do not contribute to the social systems that they are benefiting from... this puts an unfair burden on those of us that work and pay taxes....

the same is true for ALL workers working for cash....

Also some decades ago, Black people were not treated right by most Americans in that time. Just like now, for some, it was thought that black people were less and didn't deserve the same things as the white americans. Now in this time of age, hard working immigrants, want to be treated normal just like black people did before. We're just fighting for the same civil and humane rights that any hard worker deserves willing to help the US, not destroy it. So like I keep saying, it's nothing against the USA, we just want what is humanely right.

[LLandscaping]

I agree with YardPro, It isn't right for illegals to be paid in cash and us paying for there social services.

[LandscapeMasterpieceGA]

We should tax the hell out of all money transfered from the US into Mexico, that would help keep a lot more of it in our economy, and make the ones who are here working want to flourish and establish themselves as citizens or at least residents here, not just migrant workers that dont assemilate into the larger culture. They would then be tax paying people just like the rest of us.

[mexiking]

We should tax the hell out of all money transfered from the US into Mexico, that would help keep a lot more of it in our economy, and make the ones who are here working want to flourish and establish themselves as citizens or at least residents here, not just migrant workers that dont assemilate into the larger culture. They would then be tax paying people just like the rest of us.

yeah that's what I think too...

[LandscapeMasterpieceGA]

Also some decades ago, Black people were not treated right by most Americans in that time. Just like now, for some, it was thought that black people were less and didn't deserve the same things as the white americans. Now in this time of age, hard working immigrants, want to be treated normal just like black people did before. We're just fighting for the same civil and humane rights that any hard worker deserves willing to help the US, not destroy it. So like I keep saying, it's nothing against the USA, we just want what is humanely right.

Which civil and humane rights is the organized boycott trying to achieve? I dont think I've seen this outlined yet. I thought this was just a protest of the congress' bill. And black people were brought here against their will, illegal immigrants CHOOSE to come and take advantage of our economy. It wouldn't be so bad if so many didnt send most of their money home.

[mexiking]

Which civil and humane rights is the organized boycott trying to achieve? I dont think I've seen this outlined yet. I thought this was just a protest of the congress' bill. And black people were brought here against their will, illegal immigrants CHOOSE to come and take advantage of our economy. It wouldn't be so bad if so many didnt send most of their money home.

I used the black community as a mere example. It is a protest against the bill, but in the end we won't stop marching and fighting until we get a better solution. I personally am legaly here, but I know a lot who are not, and being in this industry I'm sure you all do too...

[CutInEdge Lawn Care]

Well if you know who they are and not turning them in, YOU are part of the problem and not part of the solution. You may be legal but are you hiring illegals??????

[6'7 330]

I used the black community as a mere example. It is a protest against the bill, but in the end we won't stop marching and fighting until we get a better solution. I personally am legaly here, but I know a lot who are not, and being in this industry I'm sure you all do too...

Brother, black people are not the only people to be forced to come here.

BTW All of my grandparents were immigrants, they didn't quite acheve their dreams, but their children and grandchildren did.

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/white_slavery.htm

[Envy Lawn Service]

Well, there is something to be said for hispanic immigrants, mexicans in particular. I can say nothing wrong about the majority that I have ever met... not even the ones who are illegals or 'work' the system for everything it's worth. I can't blame them.

But with all this being said, lets get real here... IMMIGRANTS OF ALL RACES, LEGAL OR ILLEGAL are overall a DRAIN/STRAIN on the US economy. And it is only allowed to go on because big business with big politicial pull wants a good supply of cheap labor. But now, it's grown in numbers to the point that it has became something even bigger than that...

It is now to the point that the immigrant population has become such a large voting block that although it is realized that something needs to be done... neither political party wants to loose their share of the immigrant voting block.

[lawnprosteveo]

As a whole, I have no problem with the Hispanics. As far as I'm concerned...let them carve out their niche here just like the Irish, Germans, Polish, etc...
And for the people that say they are burdening our economy and social programs, I know more whites on welfare than Hispanics.

[oldrustycars]

i have no problem with anyone who comes here LEGALLY. but this nonsense that they are "undocumented workers"? can i go out and rob liquor stores and say im making an "undocumented cash removal"? i'd like to see them start checking green cards at these rallies.

[Envy Lawn Service]

And for the people that say they are burdening our economy and social programs, I know more whites on welfare than Hispanics.

Oh p-lease....

Gimmie a dang break. You don't honestly believe that do you? Just because they work does not mean they are not also getting welfare assistance.

I don't blame them at all for taking advantage of the system provided to them though. Who can blame them? I sure don't. I blame the government.

It wouldn't make me mad either... but there are non-minority american citizens who need the help of our social programs that cannot get it.

[6'7 330]

Legal immigrant , White, black, laborers get paid the same very good wage, and I am not after cheap labor. I want people WHO WILL WORK, without moaning and pissing all day lets take a break, disrupting the work flow, not showing up.I do not need the show up for work doped out of their mind, or hung over from a falling down drunk the previous night before work bongheads. I need workers who will work, and the immigrants will. I don’t need the lazy ass crack head, been in the pen, so lazy Dead lice won’t fall off them native born applicants we get .

[tylermckee]

"We want full amnesty, full legalization for anybody who is here (illegally)," Rodriguez said. "That is the message that is going to be played out across the country on May 1." - taken from an article I just read.

As I see it bottom line is if you are here ILLEGALLY you don’t deserve a damn thing, you need to go home or become legal.

[AintNoFun]

7:45 and ALL of my guys are at the shop.... just talked to 2 of my other buddies one all his guys showed up, the other guys didn't...

[LandscapeMasterpieceGA]

Like I said, the problem lies in the fact that they send all of their earnings back to mexico.....that puts a real strain on the economy. The ones who deserve to stay here try to assimilate and prosper....they emigrate and respect where they are, some have no respect and are simply using the situation for building a nest egg back home, and utilize all of our social services and do not contribute any money back at all, while sending the value of their wages abroad...that can KILL our economy.....

[mexiking]

Like I said, the problem lies in the fact that they send all of their earnings back to mexico.....that puts a real strain on the economy. The ones who deserve to stay here try to assimilate and prosper....they emigrate and respect where they are, some have no respect and are simply using the situation for building a nest egg back home, and utilize all of our social services and do not contribute any money back at all, while sending the value of their wages abroad...that can KILL our economy.....


Well that's not all of us, if there was a way they could be legal, they want the US to be their country and prosper. My family and myself came to this country illegaly was I was very young. My father went through a huge process but got us to be here legally. He set up a small landscaping business and now me and my brother run the whole thing. I still keep going to school to become a Landscape Architect in a few years. We send "NO" money back to Mexico because all our close family is here with us. We've managed to buy 2 houses, cars , trucks, and keep a pretty good business running. I also know a lot of familys like ours that have real good businesses here in NJ that don't send money to Mexico. My point is, if my people get a chance, they want to prosper and not be a drag to the country, but instead make it better.

[HOOLIE]

I didn't notice any difference today, all the big commercial LCOs out doing what they do.

You know if someone is here LEGALLY, I really don't care if they send money home. None of my business...if they're paying their taxes and are law-abiding citizens that's all I care about. You can spend your money on worse things than your family.

[Toy2]

They need to get rid of personal income tax for all of us, then tax the heck out of everything you use daily.....gas, food,etc....then everyone would be forced to pay...including illegals.....just my 02.

[AintNoFun]

ive been saying that for years. tax everything so EVERYONE (legal or not) will pay there fair share...


They need to get rid of personal income tax for all of us, then tax the heck out of everything you use daily.....gas, food,etc....then everyone would be forced to pay...including illegals.....just my 02.

[gorknoids]

Either they are American citizens, or they are foreign criminals. Anyone who hasn't employed due diligence in screening their workers needs to be held accountable, also. I'll be damned if any non-American gets to not only take work from me AND use my tax dollars.
This isn't a Latino thing. It's Lithuanians, Nigerians, Italians, Germans, Russians, and Canadians. Anyone who illegally enters my United States deserves to be jailed and intensely investigated.
Of course, the topic is now with Mexicans, and I say that they need to go home.

[Envy Lawn Service]

They already tax the crap out of everything you buy, consume and own, plus your income... LOL...

I don't see how the government can manage to spend just the federal fuel tax alone... much less all the rest and then some.

[cessnasovereign]

I think if you want to be here, come here legally! It's funny how to fight to get here, yet alot of them hate Americans. Go to Mexico City alone.

Working at a funeral home I see these illegals almost daily. Every monday we get 2 or 3 in that were killed over the weekend. Some in drunk driving accidents, but usually shootings or stabbings. One good thing about them is they just kill each other, at least around here. They typically don't mess with white people..

Anyway, I think all illegals should be sent home! I have no problems with people who come here legally and pay taxes.

[gorknoids]

I used the black community as a mere example. It is a protest against the bill, but in the end we won't stop marching and fighting until we get a better solution. I personally am legaly here, but I know a lot who are not, and being in this industry I'm sure you all do too...
Well Mexiking, I won't stop reporting people whom I know are employing criminals. You are voluntarily participating in the destruction of my country, and I feel that it's only right to voluntarily have people like you raided. Pimpin' ain't easy. Thanks to people like me, that is.

[lawnprosteveo]

Im no expert, but as a firefighter, I work in a very poor area... It is mostly hispanic, then black, then whites....It is rare that we make a run to a hispanic home that isnt immaculate (poor but very clean)...as a group they are very hard workers..the whites I run into (as a whole) do not take care of theirselves, their stuff, and are on social programs as much as any other group.

Not trying to start a fight, just what I have seen.

[VWBOBD]

Also some decades ago, Black people were not treated right by most Americans in that time. Just like now, for some, it was thought that black people were less and didn't deserve the same things as the white americans. Now in this time of age, hard working immigrants, want to be treated normal just like black people did before. We're just fighting for the same civil and humane rights that any hard worker deserves willing to help the US, not destroy it. So like I keep saying, it's nothing against the USA, we just want what is humanely right.


YEAH BUT WE BROUGHT THE BLACK PEOPLE HERE , THIS ISSUE IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT INVITED

[mexiking]

YEAH BUT WE BROUGHT THE BLACK PEOPLE HERE , THIS ISSUE IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT INVITED

We'll We're here and now it's an issue if some like it or not.

[mexiking]

Well Mexiking, I won't stop reporting people whom I know are employing criminals. You are voluntarily participating in the destruction of my country, and I feel that it's only right to voluntarily have people like you raided. Pimpin' ain't easy. Thanks to people like me, that is.


This was the American Indian's country and it was taken away from them. How is that fair if you want to talk about destruction of this country? So now you want me raided because I'm Mexican and I know other Mexicans that are not documented, Okay... Also I bet I'm 10x more of a Pimp than you :cool2:

[BALSECA LANDSCAPING]

What About The Black Community Who Are Having Tons Of Unwanted Babies And Their Family Members Are Claiming Them And Collecting Welfare For Them. What About The Junkies Who Refuse To Work And Collect Welfare. The Politicians Who Say That The Immigrants Are Taking All The American Job Are Full Of Themselves. Everyone One Has An Equal Opportunity For Any Position. Do American People Go For The Jobs That Pay Very Little Have No Benefits And Extremly Long Hours I Think Not. They Go For The Positions That Have All The Benefits Short Hours And Pay The Most. Americans Are Spoiled And Very Lazy. And How Hypocritical The Politicians Are. I Would Like To See Their Personal Staff... Do They Have A Mexican Gardner, Babysitter, Maid...black People Have Become So Full Of Themselves If They Took A Job Like That They Would Start Shouting About Slavery. Why Blame The Immigrants For The Jobs They Have. "americans Hire Them"

[BALSECA LANDSCAPING]

So Now The Other Thought Is That They Are Sending The Money They Work Hard For Back To Their Families. Hmmm.... What About Everyone Elses Paychecks There Are People Who Spend Excessively On Booze, Drugs, Credit Cards, Fail To Pay Their Mortgages Any Of That Put A Strain On Our Economy? What About Our Wonderful President Who Is Sending All Our Hard Earned Money To Build Up Another Country Who Would Kill Us In A Heart Beat. I Think People Should Think Before They Speak

[mexiking]

Good points balseca....

[Envy Lawn Service]

Allow me to share a nice tid-bit with you guys...

I was just thumbing through my april issue of Pro Magazine.
Right there it was on top of page 19.
"The impact of illegal immigration"

According to this little article, 12 states have 80% of all illegal immigrants.
10 million of them...

That list contains my state of North Carolina... and you know it shows this 14 year trend by percent increase... and wouldn't you know North Carolina sticks out in the crowd like woa...

1,480% increase over a 14 year period.

[allinearth]

If an immigrant can take work away from an American it is their own fault. The American was given a major advantage by being born here, having opportunities for education etc. Maybe we should work a trade with mexico and S. America. We get working people they get the sorry Americans that can't pull their own weight.:clapping: I'm tired of lazy Americans who want something for nothing and cry when they don't get it.

[f350dieselemt]

America Should Take all of these stupid American wanna-be illegal immigrants and sent their ass's back home... for those of the hispanics that are legal they are ok to stay...

[BALSECA LANDSCAPING]

"America Should Take all of these stupid American wanna-be illegal immigrants and sent their ass's back home... for those of the hispanics that are legal they are ok to stay..."

F350DIESELEMT, GLAD YOU ARE RUNNING THE SHOW. SO I GUESS YOU HAVE NO IMMIGRANTS IN YOUR FAMILY BLOOD LINE....RIGHT....OK

[mexiking]

America Should Take all of these stupid American wanna-be illegal immigrants and sent their ass's back home... for those of the hispanics that are legal they are ok to stay...

what a dumb comment, everyone who reads your comment has become 2% dumber GOOD JOB.

[TurfProSTL]

Nobody gave my immigrant grandparents a free ride. They struggled to learn the language, became citizens, and worked hard. Like most of our ancestors.

The illegal protestors should invest their time and effort into becoming citizens. Then they would actually have a right to protest anything they want.

Granting any type of amnesty to illegals disrespects US citizenship and disrespects most of our ancestors.....

[Full throttle lawn care]

All I know is Mexicans in general will never be looked at in the same way by many from here on out wether legal or not after the ethnic protest. For those of you that line your pockets with green using illegals are a major part of the problem and should be find with jail time.:hammerhead: It hurts all of us!

[mexiking]

Nobody gave my immigrant grandparents a free ride. They struggled to learn the language, became citizens, and worked hard. Like most of our ancestors.

The illegal protestors should invest their time and effort into becoming citizens. Then they would actually have a right to protest anything they want.

Granting any type of amnesty to illegals disrespects US citizenship and disrespects most of our ancestors.....

it's not as easy as before to become a citizen nowadays buddy...

[HDALLC]

:usflag: plain and simple, if they are Illegal Get them the hell out of this country and if they want to come back let them do it the legal way. immigrants have way too many more perks than even us citizens, no paying taxes for 7 yrs this is BS. this country is going to crap fast and I really don't want to be apart of it anymore. we have idiots running this country both democratic and republican. get rid of them all, we need to vote new leaders into their spots, if there was a better country to move to I would in a heart beat but there isn't so I'm stuck here in Mexico north :usflag: :usflag:

[BALSECA LANDSCAPING]

Does Anyone Even Know The Process To Become Just A "conditional Resident" Let Alone A Permanent Resident. From 10 Years Ago It Was Hard And Very Detailed Work. I Know This Because I Processed All The Work For My Ex-husband. Now The Process Is Extremely Hard And Has A Huge Waiting List. That's The Problem With Some Of These Americans They Think They Know Everything And Shoot Their Mouths Off, When They Know Absolutely Nothing. To Clarify "i Am An American" But You Know Sometimes The Way My Fellow Americans Act.....i Am Really Embarrassed

[HDALLC]

it's not as easy as before to become a citizen nowadays buddy... :cry:
thats not true my wife works with someone who just took the citizenship test 10 questions easy as pie, and the kicker is they even can take it in their own language. THIS IS AMERICA, WE SPEAK ENGLISH, IF YOU DONT GET THE HELL OUT!!! :usflag:

[BALSECA LANDSCAPING]

See Mexiking The Ignorance Of Some People.....once You Have Established The Residency Its Not As Hard But To Get There Is The Big Problem

[Cahsking]

I know English is not the official language of my state? Is it the official language of the US? I can't wait to see what happens when the little English world is integrated with Spanish aka Spanglish. Te Hablas? Wasn't that a movie last year? What was it about?? Was George Lopez in it?

[TurfProSTL]

it's not as easy as before to become a citizen nowadays buddy...
OK.....

What exactly is harder? Things actually seem a bit easier for today's immigrant, in my view.

Please enlighten me, as I may be quite ignorant on this subject.

[mexiking]

:cry:
thats not true my wife works with someone who just took the citizenship test 10 questions easy as pie, and the kicker is they even can take it in their own language. THIS IS AMERICA, WE SPEAK ENGLISH, IF YOU DONT GET THE HELL OUT!!! :usflag:

I'm no talking about becoming a citizen after your resident, ANY person who tries can pass it. I'm talking about even becoming a resident, that's the hardest just to become a Resident.

[mexiking]

OK.....

What exactly is harder? Things actually seem a bit easier for today's immigrant, in my view.

Please enlighten me, as I may be quite ignorant on this subject.

Yeah well like I said before, to become a citizen after you're a resident is a piece of cake. I'm talking about impossible for the ones who want to become residents and than become Citizens.

[BALSECA LANDSCAPING]

:usflag: plain and simple, if they are Illegal Get them the hell out of this country and if they want to come back let them do it the legal way. immigrants have way too many more perks than even us citizens, no paying taxes for 7 yrs this is BS. this country is going to crap fast and I really don't want to be apart of it anymore. we have idiots running this country both democratic and republican. get rid of them all, we need to vote new leaders into their spots, if there was a better country to move to I would in a heart beat but there isn't so I'm stuck here in Mexico north :usflag: :usflag:


where do you get that immigrants don't pay taxes for 7 years...that's a crock. my ex- husband paid taxes before and after he became a resident.:nono:

[VWBOBD]

:usflag: plain and simple, if they are Illegal Get them the hell out of this country and if they want to come back let them do it the legal way. immigrants have way too many more perks than even us citizens, no paying taxes for 7 yrs this is BS. this country is going to crap fast and I really don't want to be apart of it anymore. we have idiots running this country both democratic and republican. get rid of them all, we need to vote new leaders into their spots, if there was a better country to move to I would in a heart beat but there isn't so I'm stuck here in Mexico north :usflag: :usflag:


you should get the fu@# out of this country anyway with assinine coments like that.

[VWBOBD]

See Mexiking The Ignorance Of Some People.....once You Have Established The Residency Its Not As Hard But To Get There Is The Big Problem


im confused, you guys act like you are so proud, waveing those ugly ass mexican flags, not learning the language of this country, and generally refusing to assimilate, if you are so proud to be a mexican then why do you not want to stay in your own country. I can answer that ....it sucks

[kipcom]

They the mexicans must admit.....It had NO affect on the USA workforce. All we saw was a bunch of mexican stores & restaurants closed.

No big deal at all :cool2: