2000 hour club

[boozoo]

Okay, so there are a lot of great and not-so-great ZTR's running around out there. My question: How many of you have 2000 hours on your machine and are still mowing happily with it, with minimum or no trouble along the way? I'm trading in a front-mount Grasshopper, and so far my local choices are a 25 HP kubota-engine 61"Grasshopper mid-mount and a 27 HP kawasaki-engine Scag Turf Tiger72". Both are water-cooled. Think either of these could make the "club". . . or are there some better choices? Thanks, I could use an answer pretty quick : )

[excel25]

Go for the GRASSHOPPER!!!! Had a scag befor my grasshopper :D

[Eric ELM]

Boozoo, my old Dixie Chopper has 3,335 hours on it and it still runs great and mows great. It is being used every day we mow. It has been back to the dealer twice, once for an in take manifold gasket and once for new modules and 1 spindle bearing was a fuz loose. The last time was about 350 hours ago. I've also had 2 other Choppers and put about 2500 on each.

From what I have heard, the Kubota is a good engine. If I only had the 2 choices, I would demo them both and see which one seems the best for you.

[gorrell]

Is there a dixie chopper dealer nearby? It's not unusual for a DC to go 3000 hours+. I've had two grasshoppers and a Scag Magnum, all three liquid cooled diesels and have found them to be somewhat more economical but also somewhat more of a hassel to maintain. Keeping diesel fuel filters clean, constantly cleaning the radiator screen in dusty and dirty conditions, water pumps, etc. DC's have the best filter setup in the industry to safeguard their engines, whether Kohler, Kawasaki, Yanmar, or Honda. If you talk to a Kohler rep and say you've got a Kohler engine with 2500-3000 hours I'll bet he replies: Oh, You've got a Dixie Chopper.......Believe it! Lynn

[Mark]

Ive got 4285hrs on a Snapper 52" Briggs Vangard i purchased in 92,have yet to change a spindel bearing and no trouble so far with the Vanguard.Just changed to oil and air filter last nite,is so dry out there. Oh Eric buy the way i was talking to Joe Robertson today and he puts 55 to 60 hrs per week on his scags,and with the leaf work he does put 4000hrs every two yrs. Marks Mowing Service

[DMC300]

Well over 3000 on my Dixie. 22 Kohler won't quit.
I've replaced the deck and spindles ,(because of the sand here)and the T-box!
Still going strong.

[Keith]

My Grasshopper has over 2800 on it. The Kubota runs great. The machine itself has become costly. I should have gotten rid of it right before it was 3 years old and it would have save me a pile of $

[John DiMartino]

AT golf course,our Steiner is going for 5000 hrs.It is getting abit ragged looking,its an 89.It has a loader,mower,dozer blade and leaf blower,it has been worked very hard,and its 2nd Onan engine has about had it too,its ready to become a backup or retire to homeowner use now.Id buy another in a second,it had 2 axles break under warranty-they upgraded all 4,and no trouble since.I have put over 40 spindles(yes 40)and about 100 sets of spindle bearings.My guys love to mow roots,and bricks,and anything else they should be string trimming.They have a weak spindle setup,but an incredible,unmatched cut,with full width roller.I have the 60" deck.

[Scotty]

My 1996 Dixie 22hp Kohler has 3000 hours and the 1998 Dixie has almost 2500 hours. Both are used daily and we have not had any major problems.

[David Gretzmier]

Boozoo- I'd look at the big diesel chopper for sure, choppers have a great track record of lots of hours. Eric elm has a healthy ( or unhealthy ) relationship with his w/ double blades blazing. If there is no dealer support, ( Anybody tried this one? ) think about opening one! The skag would be my choice w/dealer support on the 72" and 27 kaw, and I heard the 31 kaw was to be available this summer on the tiger and sabre tooth.. Anybody seen one yet? On grasshoppers- I've seem to have had alot of problems w/ my two midmounts, the 25 kohler and 21 diesel, and with my two fronts. the cut is great and dealer around here super, but the $ are add up on the repairs before I even hit 1000 hours. strange things seem to break and electrical issues too. I am hard on my mowers, but who isn't in this business? Dave :blob3:

[Russ]

98 DC XW2200----3,590 hours on it, used daily. To date I've replaced one spindle bearing and 3 sets of tires. There are some people out there making a good mower--I've got one.

[boozoo]

My god, these Dixie choppers just seem too good to be true. Is there any point to buying the 26 hp Yanmar diesel if the 25 hp Kohler (geez, I hate to even comtemplate buying a - shudder- Kohler) can last so long? Do these mowers have any downside whatsoever?

[Eric ELM]

BooZoo, I couldn't believe I was getting such good longevity out of the Kohlers either. What Lynn said about filtration systems on Choppers is true. With 2 filters just for the engine oil, some say it is over kill. One takes out the same size dirt particles that all the other mfgs. motors do, but the Amsoil Bypass Filter will take out particles down to 1 micron in size. This will add to engine life as does the Donaldson Turbo Air Cleaner system they have used for years. Dirt is the number one killer of motors, so keeping it out the best possible way, adds engine life. My dealer also has a mowing service and has a Chopper with a 22hp Kohler with over 6,000 hours and it's only had a ring job done on it, but as he said, it is an exception. He said several have come in with over 4,000 hours on them.

When I first looked at a Chopper, I was wishing they had Kawasaki engines on them, but I have been very pleased with the longevity of the Kohlers.

I have always had a liking for the Yanmar engines and I have had 3 of them. The one reason to buy a diesel is if you plan to keep it a long long time. :) It will save you a lot of money in fuel since it burns about 2/3rds to half the amount a gas engine will. It should out last 2 or 3 gas engines also. I just like the purrrrr of the diesel engines. ;)

The new 24hp Honda engine is a nice one too. The response of that engine when you hit the throttle, is amazing.

Just go out and demo all the brands and figure out which one will work for you.

[boozoo]

Ah, but there is the kicker Eric. A lot of brands will work well for me when I demo. Hell, Grasshoppers are GREAT when they're new. But what is gonna work for me 1500 hours down the road . . . or 2500. I've got my eye on a 25hp kohler 72" chopper. Normally I wouldn't be considering 72", but we are starting to get a lot of big, wide open properties. And I've wanted to try a chopper for a long time. Any particular considerations with this kind of a DC (72")? Will a 25 hp power it adequately?

[Eric ELM]

A 25 will handle 72". Just ask Homer, he has one like that. The 25hp on a 72" would be about like the 20hp on the 60". More power is always nice, like the 40 HP twin engine like Lynn Gorell has or the 48hp diesel, but they are more money. I have the 26hp diesel on my 60" and that is a nice combo. You can get the 26hp diesel on a 72" also.

[R & J LAWN]

BOOZOO THE 25 KOLER ON THE 72 WILL MOW GRASS IF YOU ARE MOWING IT ON A 7 TO 10 DAY MOW, WILL MOW JUST AS FAST AS IT WILL RUN AND IT WILL LOOK GOOD. I HAVE BEEN USING SEMCE 1998. I TRADED ON IN LAST YEAR THAT HAD 1500 HR ON IT THAT WAS A 98 AND IT WAS STILL RUNING GOOD. THE SEAT HAS A LITTLE TO BE DESIRED BUT YOU CAN GET A DIFERENT ONE. IF YOU DONT HAVE A DEALER THERE THERE IS ONE IN JOPLIN THAT HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB FOR ME AS FAR AS I AM CONSERNED.



A CUT ABOVE THE REST[/QUOTE] :angel:

[Barkleymut]

Get the 26 HP diesel. The 25 HP Kohler is the only thing that has faltered on mine except a hydro problem which was easily fixed. Plus the diesel is more economical and has better torque. I have the 25 HP on a 60" Flatlander and can bog it down when cutting really thick yards at 7-8 MPH, I will go for the diesel next time. I doubt there is a mower that will come close to the track record DC has. :D

[captdevo]

I have 2 1992 Walker MDD Diesels:

One has 5,836 hours

Other has 4,988 hours

I have never had any major problems with either one!

[lawrence stone]

Originally posted by Eric ELM
It will save you a lot of money in fuel since it burns about 2/3rds to half the amount a gas engine will. It should out last 2 or 3 gas engines also.

My 62" toro WB with a 18hp commands uses .7 gal./hr.

[Eric ELM]

Larry, I was referring to ZTR's, but I did not specify them. I since have found out more about efi engines which burn about a gallon an hour. If I only used single blades on that diesel, it probably would use even less fuel. ;)

An update on my old Kohler. It's up to 3,568 hours now and I've talked to two others that don't have a post on here that their DC's have around 4,000 hours on them. One of them is a 25 hp Kohler. That is the most hours I've heard of on a 25 hp Kohler, so it's good to hear some are having good luck with them. Most members with lots of hours on Kohlers, have a 22 hp Kohler.

[65hoss]

I heard one of the kubota engines running the other day, man was it quite. At full power it was less than my kawi at idle.

[Fine Lines Lawn]

Two of my Dixies have Kohler 22s. One has 3800 hours on it, and the other has 2400 hours. Neither have had a wrench taken to them and still going strong.
The new Honda is still a baby with only 350 hours on it. It's doing great.

[LAWNGODFATHER]

I think Eric was referring to me as one of the DC’s with over 4,000hrs with a 25hp Kohler.

I’m sorry to say it was retired to the salvage yard for other reasons than the mower dieing, but retired with the hour meter reading 4761hrs. Only thing done was I had the heads rebuilt for oil consumption reasons. And the mower still ran strong. It had a nice Funeral.
My other Dixie’s had over 4,000hrs on their 22hp Kohler’s before I got rid of them

As for a Lazer that just turned 4,000hrs today with a 25hp Kohler and 2 others over 2,000hrs with a 26hp EFI Kohler. Only problem with the 25hp was the coil went out first week I had it and a guy dropped a nut in the engine and it got wedged between the fly wheel and the stator

And two 22hp Koehler’s with over 2,000hrs.

I have found on the gas engines that Kohler will give you plenty for the long haul.

Diesels will give you what you want in longevity by nature but you pay the price up front.

As far as the filtration systems on my Kohler’s they all had a canister air filter on them and I ran Mobil 1 synthetic oil in them all.

LGF

[Eric ELM]

Has anyone noticed there isn't one Kawasaki engine listed here in the 2000 hour club? The biggest majority is Kohler. I guess the faucet motor is the BEST choice Lone Star. ;)

[LAWNGODFATHER]

You noticed that too Eric

I guess they are doing something right

So Lone Kaw man do you have a KAW over a 1,000hrs

LGF:blob1:

[LoneStarLawn]

I haven't been in business long enough to know. I 'll let you know when we get there.

5 people!!!! That makes it better? And is it the machine or the engine...they were all Dixie's weren't they?

[Eric ELM]

Originally posted by LoneStarLawn
I haven't been in business long enough to know. I 'll let you know when we get there.

5 people!!!! That makes it better? And is it the machine or the engine...they were all Dixie's weren't they?

5 to 0, yes I would say that is good odds which one lasts longer. ;)

And is it the machine or the engine...they were all Dixie's weren't they? No, LGF has Exmarks listed too, but with Kohlers. ;)

[LoneStarLawn]

5 to 0 on this thread...YES but in real life? Who knows...Ok I did see that LGF had eXmarks, cool. Does Kohler have engines on walkbehinds? What is the percentage on here of people who have z-riders?


From what I have read on here (and that is where I am getting my info since I do not run Kohler engines) is that more people favor kawasaki eninges over Kohler. I have even notice that Kohler had a large number of engines that were bad not to long ago...is that correct?

Again I have never stated that Kawasaki engines are better than Kohler...I merely made a statement of the two companies. I personally would choose the company that is just into eniges not everthing else for the house. But that is just IMHO.


I am fair about everything...so I truely can not state that one is better than the other without running both of them or doing tests.

[LAWNGODFATHER]

Yes my W/B's have 22hp Kohlers

IMHO Kaw V-twins haven't been ture tested for the long haul

I had them on Lesco W/B and had carb problems but the mowers were barrowed so I returned back to owner to deal with

Yea I have a Kaw. 14hp on my Lesco 36" W/B no hr meter but cant be much since it never gets used any more

With proper maint. you should at least get 2,500 hrs out of a gas engine.

And I hope to see a Kaw. make this list

LGF:blob1:

PS Lone Star just bein' a pain in the butt LOL And I hope you have the same luck as us

[LoneStarLawn]

Originally posted by LAWNGODFATHER
Yes my W/B's have 22hp Kohlers


PS Lone Star just bein' a pain in the butt LOL And I hope you have the same luck as us

What I actually was trying to get at the Kohler doesn't make smaller engines like Kawasaki does. Never really thought about a large engine on large WBs (just wasn't thinking and I know they make smaller engines justed didn't know . Not many talk about the Kohler smaller engines).

Pain in the butt eh? Thanks I appreciate that. I give my opinion and I am a pain in the butt. Real professional people we have here.

[LAWNGODFATHER]

Actually I have Kohler on my Peco Vac's and they are the pro 6hp model compareable to the Honda 5.5hp ones at a lower price.

They don't get no way close to 200hr on them but they are used in sevear duty use so they perfom well.

Kaw is relativlly new to this indistry as far as small enginges

they used to only make a 12.5hp, a 14hp and a17hp single cyclinder model so the smaller and V-twins are new in the past couple of years.

when they get a better air filter system I might look in to them but as it stands for now it's Kohler time.

LGF:blob1:

[Evan528]

For the most part.... most walk behinds dont have hour meters. Id say 90% of walkbhinds I see have kawasaki motors on them. I know many guys with 10 year old walkbehinds with the original kawasaki 12.5 hp or 14 hp engine. Untill recently no manufacture really used kawasakis on there ztr's (wich have hour meters). Im am sure there are alot of walkbehinds equqiped with kawaskis that have over 2,000 hours on them. Im not trying to put down kohlors... I have had exellent luck with the kohlors i have owned as well as with the kawasakis i have owned. I think now that kawasakis are being used on ztrs with hour meters we will see just how reliable they are.

[LAWNGODFATHER]

Sorry Lone Star I did not proof read if forgot the "I'm" in

I'm just trying to be a pain in the butt

LGF:blob1:

[steve]

The Kohler command 22 & 25 had a couple year head start when the Kawasaki 23 HP was released!

[hustlers]

i ve got a mid 80's bobcat 48 w/b and has many thousands
of hours / It still runs like new with the 12.5 kawi.
It runs better than my new ones.

replaced front caster wheels and thats it 25.00$

[fdew]

Again I have never stated that Kawasaki engines are better than Kohler...I merely made a statement of the two companies. I personally would choose the company that is just into eniges not everthing else for the house. But that is just IMHO.

You may want to have a look at Kawasaki Hydromechanics
http://www.khm.co.jp/english/index.html

or Kawasaki Robotics
http://www.kawasakirobot.com/
http://www.kawasakirobot.uk.com/

Or this

As a technology company that provides diverse products for use on land,
at sea and in the air, we seek to apply our abundance of management resources
to continue our development as an excellent company and promote the Kawasaki
brand globally. By making the most of these resources and applying our technologies
and expertise effectively, our focus is gradually changing from "heavy"
to "flexible" industries.
We are concentrating on four fields of business: aircraft and jet engines,
motorcycles and other general-purpose vehicles, rolling stock, and total
system engineering, the final category involving environmental technologies, power generation, energy and distribution. We aim to distribute management
resources effectively among these four fields and aggressively promote synergy
in new areas of business.
In the 21st century, Kawasaki seeks to differentiate
itself through the products it offers.

From http://www.khi.co.jp/overview/index.html


Frank

[fdew]

Kohler builds commercial lawn care engines in the following sizes

4, 6, 8, 8.5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22, 23, 25, 26 HP

http://www.kohlerengines.com/apps/engines_search.jsp


Frank

[Guido]

I don't want to interrupt the Kawi / Kohler debate, but I had a quick quesiton.

Does any manufacturer actually state somewhere what you could reasonably expect out of their engine or machine?? (i.e., our mower will last you at least 3000 hours) I don't think they do because it might bind them legally into some stuff, but if they said maintained properly or something.

ANyway just wondering if anyone has anything written like that that you guys know of.

[Dave]

345JD 18hp kaw.head gaskets and valve adjustments as recomended,2102 hours as of last week look close at he cylinders no ridge and some slight hone marks left

[ron]

I have a Scag Super Z 52 Inch, purchased last season for $2,500. had 1,000 hrs on it ,now It has 2,150 hrs no problems only had to replace the blades twice and the ignition switch once, this machine really works good for me with no problems" knock on wood."''':) :angel:

[LAWNGODFATHER]

Originally posted by fdew
Kohler builds commercial lawn care engines in the following sizes

4, 6, 8, 8.5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22, 23, 25, 26 HP

http://www.kohlerengines.com/apps/engines_search.jsp


Frank

Noy untill 2 years ago

It was a 12.5hp 14hp 17hp all single cycliders engines till 2 yrs ago

LGF:blob1:

[65hoss]

Ron, you forgot to tell us what motor.???

[AltaLawnCare]

Originally posted by Dave
345JD 18hp kaw.head gaskets and valve adjustments as recomended,2102 hours as of last week look close at he cylinders no ridge and some slight hone marks left

I have that exact same mower, mine has about 450 hours on it now, and I hardly ever use it anymore.

I truly believe that proper maintenace , running good oil and filtration makes a whole lot more difference than the name stamped on the engine.

[fdew]

quote

Noy until 2 years ago
It was a 12.5hp 14hp 17hp all single cylinders engines till 2 yrs ago

I have a 1965 7 HP. and a 1926 4 cyl in line water cooled (designed and built by Kohler. There is an add on ebay for manuals for the 7 hp. from 1990 Kohler built a air cooled 2 cyl horizontal shaft engine that was used on a number of industrial, and farm equipment The KY series V-twin manual is dated 1987 and my Command manual is dated 1994

Frank

[LAWNGODFATHER]

Frank

That was for KAW not Kohler

LGF:blob1:

[wallzwallz]

i thought this thread started for ztr's but since somebody brought in wb's: i've had 2 kawasaki's go well over 2000 hrs , 12.5 on 86 toro 36",bought used in 90 with just under 2000 hrs on it ,put 3+more years on it before i had a clutch problem,replaced clutch didn't use loctite[doow!] clutch falls off snaps crank,was still running strong with 2900 + hrs, a jd rider w/ 12.5 kaw sold it w/ 2500 hrs guy bought 3years ago for his lawn still runs fine.Right now have 97 Bobcat w/ 14 kaw just passed 1800 hrs not 1 problem. I do have a Kohler 1984 gravely rider 19 hp twin, 2500+ hrs still strong. I think pm on engines will extend life considerably, regardless who made it:blob3:

[WREBELMACHINE]

I live in a town that is dominated by kohler and we have several d/c's over the 2000 hr. mark. However I do now of one individual that has an 3 year old encore prowler with a 22hp l/q Kawasaki that has 2600+ hrs. on the engine.

By the way we did have a 5 yr. old 22hp kohler die on us about 2 months ago and we replaced it with a 22hp subaru engine I will let you now if it lasts or not!

[Strongmd]

I have 5 & 6 year old scag w/b's with 14hp kawi's, both are run full time, and both are running fine. I've never really heard anyone bad mouth kawi much until this thread. I've also had a couple of kohlers in the past and I've always been happier with my kawi's. I gotta say though, I'm most happy with my small Honda engines. 3 push blowers, 1 leaf vac, 1 aerator, and 1 slice seeder. Very reliable engines.

[kutnkru]

Although this topic has gone from playing center in the football game to Left Field at the World Series...

I have to agree that the Honda's with their OIL ALERTS are a great buy because with so many unpredictable employees, its almost 100% guaranteed that they wont blow the motor.

I personally like our Kawis, and have found fewer repairs with them over the kohlers.

Just my .02
Kris

[BUSHMASTER]

[COLOR=blue]
My Blue Walker has 1985 hrs today.
3 cyl kubota gas
98 model

no problems.

[cclllc]

Eric,do the new dc's still have the same filtration sys. as mine and your old ones?I was looking at them on the dc website and couldn't tell if they still had coolers for the hydros.

[Eric ELM]

The new ones with Kohlers have engine coolers and they have hydro coolers also. The Honda's do not have the Donaldson or the Amsoil Bypass filters though.

[David Gretzmier]

I believe that proper maintenance extends mower life, but at the louisville show last year I had a kohler engineer tell me the "normal"life of thier air cooled line was 1000 hours. I have always changed oir and filters, and have found normal non dixie enhanced 25 hors kohlers go bad at 1000, but can be rebiult twice. I have heard and experienced 14-22 horse kohlers going strong well past the 1000 hour mark. I had a jd 48"w/b with 1400 hours on it with 17 horse kaw when I sold it, and have a 14 horse kohler 36"toro hydro walk with an hour meter that broke at 1100 hours 3 years ago, and still starts and runs great.


The 25 horse kohler was a mistake by kohler by making an 18 horse block handle 25 horse heat. by keeping it cooler with oil coolers and super air and oil filters, the thing will run long.


I still vote for the diesel, as off road diesel fuel at .99 per gallon and the fuel efficiecy ( bout 1/2 -2/3 fuel burned) offset purchase premium as you increase the cost of fuel- 1.69 today for regular, and increase operating hours beyond 1000 hours.


I am seeing alot more kaws and less kohlers these days. the 25 horse kohler just aint the standard engine like it used to be. the 27 horse liquid kaw seems to be filling that spot. lots of diesels too. the market is going to 30+horse in the future ( look for 31&33 liquid kaws, 31 daihatsu, 32 kubota, and others to be more and more common) simply because we need it, want it, and the higher hp engines also lend themselves to longevity as well. Ask anyone who has the 40 horse chopper if they'd like LESS horse power. ask anyone who has the 25 if they'd like more.

I want a mower that can mow at a good speed, run a bagger, 60-72"deck, and be able to go uphill and mow wet, 10-12 day growth without slowing down. that takes 35-40 horse power, or more. that is the reality of the commercial market. the manufacturers are only now beginning to respond to it.

Dave g

[vipermanz]

my lb has about 1100 hours and still running strong,

i figured that up with it's age and my personal usage times

[General Grounds]

:blob3: go with the dixie, i have a 1996 xw w/22 hp kohler, with 4381, changed the tires a few times, and i think on spindle bearing, also still on the original belts, great mower. keep it clean greased and clean those air filters weekly and you'll see a world of difference. T

[Fivestar]

My 2000 Lazer has 2400 hrs

[GravelyNut]

I believe that proper maintenance extends mower life, but at the louisville show last year I had a kohler engineer tell me the "normal"life of thier air cooled line was 1000 hours. I have always changed oir and filters, and have found normal non dixie enhanced 25 hors kohlers go bad at 1000, but can be rebiult twice. I have heard and experienced 14-22 horse kohlers going strong well past the 1000 hour mark. I had a jd 48"w/b with 1400 hours on it with 17 horse kaw when I sold it, and have a 14 horse kohler 36"toro hydro walk with an hour meter that broke at 1100 hours 3 years ago, and still starts and runs great.


The 25 horse kohler was a mistake by kohler by making an 18 horse block handle 25 horse heat. by keeping it cooler with oil coolers and super air and oil filters, the thing will run long.


I still vote for the diesel, as off road diesel fuel at .99 per gallon and the fuel efficiecy ( bout 1/2 -2/3 fuel burned) offset purchase premium as you increase the cost of fuel- 1.69 today for regular, and increase operating hours beyond 1000 hours.


I am seeing alot more kaws and less kohlers these days. the 25 horse kohler just aint the standard engine like it used to be. the 27 horse liquid kaw seems to be filling that spot. lots of diesels too. the market is going to 30+horse in the future ( look for 31&33 liquid kaws, 31 daihatsu, 32 kubota, and others to be more and more common) simply because we need it, want it, and the higher hp engines also lend themselves to longevity as well. Ask anyone who has the 40 horse chopper if they'd like LESS horse power. ask anyone who has the 25 if they'd like more.

I want a mower that can mow at a good speed, run a bagger, 60-72"deck, and be able to go uphill and mow wet, 10-12 day growth without slowing down. that takes 35-40 horse power, or more. that is the reality of the commercial market. the manufacturers are only now beginning to respond to it.

Dave gThe old Kohler Magnums can run well into the 2K hours range. As do the old Onan B43M and B48M series. Got Kohlers and Onan twins with 2500 plus hours on them.

[Richard Martin]

I haven't seen a post from any of the original posters to this thread in years. They will not reply, trust me. At least one of them is deceased.

[Groh's Mows]

Fivestar, I have never understood why some people post to a thread this old (8 yrs) but then agian I just posted to it myself. Did you notice the dates on all the posts prior to yours?

[flatlander42]

the funny part is that he has been here since 2002.....and must have looked past this thread for this many years! haha

[topsites]

That's the thing thou...
2000 hours is one thing, how it made it there quite another.

Like one guy said, we get'm there, then we wonder why we spent all that dumb money
as it turns into one repair after the next, could've bought a brand new one and been done.

Now to answer the question...
I'm not sure how many hours are on my 12 year old Wb (fine it's no Z)...
But I am sure it's mowed somewhere around 5-8 thousand lawns.
Yeah, it runs...
And I should have bought a new one when the engine needed replacing,
especially seeing how a year before the transmission's replacement should have clued me in.
Gosh by the time I was finished about the only thing that did NOT get replaced is the frame and a few pulleys lol

Oddly enough she'll outrun brand new Wb's of the same class, both in power, maneuverability, and speed.
But what it cost me...

[cclllc]

I have a couple of '96 Dc classics one of which has over 4000 hrs (22hp) and another with over 2500 hrs(25 hp)

[txgrassguy]

I have no first line machines with over 1,500 hours on them.
At 1,500 hours the machine(s) are exchanged with new zero time units.
Occasionally you may hear of someone with a machine in excess of 2,000 hours operating with-in reason.
I, for one, do not consider golf course equipment in the same manner as LCO machines.
Golf course machines are typically only started twice per day, run at full throttle the whole time thereby avoiding the heating/cooling cycles associated with a LCO machine, and typically operate in a "cleaner" environment - meaning most of the obstacles (on a well run course) should have been cleared so the machine shouldn't experience the constant operator inputs a LCO machine experiences.
Think of my comment this way, a golf course machine is like a vehicle on a highway verse an LCO machine being operated like a taxi in a city.
I do have one '99 Gravely 262 with over 2,600 hours on it but this machine is a "loaner" machine. I allow this machine to be loaned out to certain friends for a defined period of time.

[Evan528]

I am one of the original posters who is still around....:laugh:


Absolutely amazing how time flies.....:waving:

[Russ]

I am one of the original posters who is still around....:laugh:


Absolutely amazing how time flies.....:waving:

Yep---I'm still here too.
We have 4 DC's. 2 of them have over 3,500 hours on them. We also have a 99 2600-XWD with 6,400 hours on it and it works every week grass grows.

Sure wish Eric was still here.

[lawnboy dan]

i have 1800 on my 99 kohlor 22 with no engine work ever. valve tappet noise from time to time but it always goes away

[Richard Martin]

I am one of the original posters who is still around....:laugh:


Absolutely amazing how time flies.....:waving:

Yep---I'm still here too.
We have 4 DC's. 2 of them have over 3,500 hours on them. We also have a 99 2600-XWD with 6,400 hours on it and it works every week grass grows.

Sure wish Eric was still here.

I figured if I wrote that a couple of old timers would roll out of bed and post. :dancing:

[cclllc]

Still here also.:laugh:

[Cboy7]

Yep , I am still here as well

[TMlawncare]

2002 lazer 27hp lckaw 2300 hrs used daily
2005 Turf tracer has 2100hrs used daily
2007 Turf tracer has 1300hrs used daily
1996 Walker with 21hp kubota gas 3600hrs used daily

The exmark walk behinds have only had hydro seals replaced, a couple idler pully's, and a few belts. Otherwise the only big bill was when we had to replace the fan on the lazer $500. Excellent machines, they will all be in full production next year as well. The walker has had one hydro replaced and had an ignition problem. This machine has had less then $1800 total repairs done to it over the last 13 years. Pretty good by my standards.