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jdkatz
05-11-2006, 11:08 PM
OK may seem a little odd but I was wondering about aerator shoes. I can't afford a machine and I have not had a big call for this kind of service, one of my customers suggested them to do his front yard, for an added price on next weeks service of course. So what do you think??:usflag: :waving:

cessnasovereign
05-11-2006, 11:10 PM
LOL.. sorry but sounds pretty funny. I hope the yard is about 10x10 otherwise, good luck and you really need a core aerator, vs. spikes. I mean dang, just put on some cleats, it's about the same. haha

You can buy tow behind core-aerators for riders at about $200

Killswitch
05-11-2006, 11:11 PM
Right. Then you and Jerry Baker can sit back in your golf spikes drinking dish soap and molasses.

Rent the machine and charge at least fifteen dollars per thousand.

procut
05-11-2006, 11:16 PM
Those shoes are a joke, they do more harm than good. You need a machene that removes cores or plugs to do any benifit. Like Killswitch said, you can rent one.

jdkatz
05-11-2006, 11:17 PM
Thanks guys

Runner
05-11-2006, 11:33 PM
You can buy tow behind core-aerators for riders at about $200

LOL ...And that's about what you get, too. About $200 worth of aerator.

cessnasovereign
05-12-2006, 12:20 AM
LOL ...And that's about what you get, too. About $200 worth of aerator.


BUT, you can't tell me it's not 1000ty better than aerator shoes! :dizzy:

General Landscaping
05-12-2006, 12:24 AM
LOL ...And that's about what you get, too. About $200 worth of aerator.

What is the problem?
Is it performance related or longevity related?

What is the typical failure mode for a $200 aerator?

Tine breakage?
Bushing wear out?

I'm thinking of getting one and converting it to 3 point for mounting on back of an old Cub 149.

ChadD
05-12-2006, 12:31 AM
I heard the shoes compact the soil around the spikes, which defeats the purpose.

Chad

Soupy
05-12-2006, 01:01 AM
What is the problem?
Is it performance related or longevity related?

What is the typical failure mode for a $200 aerator?

Tine breakage?
Bushing wear out?

I'm thinking of getting one and converting it to 3 point for mounting on back of an old Cub 149.


The whole thing is junk. Most importantly they don't pull good cores, or enough of them. The position of the tines are to far apart and there is not enough of them. Your customers would not be getting a professional quality service with one of those homeowner aerators.

The cheapest tow behind worth buying would be this one http://www.wikco.com/Turfvent.html

Freddy_Kruger
05-12-2006, 01:05 AM
I got an Idea, Aerator Pogo Stick.

jameson
05-12-2006, 02:31 AM
I got an Idea, Aerator Pogo Stick.

Thats a gem of an idea, fun YET useful :dancing: . You betta' hightail on down to the Patent Office in the a.m...Im tellin' ya, its gonna be the next big thang in turf care!

James

nocutting
05-12-2006, 03:34 AM
OK may seem a little odd but I was wondering about aerator shoes. I can't afford a machine and I have not had a big call for this kind of service, one of my customers suggested them to do his front yard, for an added price on next weeks service of course. So what do you think??:usflag: :waving:
Just watch out for the irragation system:dizzy:

rustyb265
05-15-2006, 03:04 PM
I use a tow behind aerator. Its not the best and yes it is only $200 worth of aerator. But it is way better than the shoes, and oh yeah, looks a little more professional too!!! I only do a few lawns worth or aerating a year....this works for me.

Brendan Smith
05-15-2006, 04:26 PM
I use a tow behind aerator. Its not the best and yes it is only $200 worth of aerator. But it is way better than the shoes, and oh yeah, looks a little more professional too!!! I only do a few lawns worth or aerating a year....this works for me.
Why not rent a good one, line all the customers for areation on the same day, and charge them all the rental fee...before you get up in arms about this, think...if you only rented it for one, he would have to pay for it, so why not charge each one? pure profit after the first yard. plus, why should the others pay less when you had to rent it anyway? seems like the first guy getting screwed if you don't charge the others too. just my .02

rustyb265
05-15-2006, 09:37 PM
Brendan,

That is a very good idea. I guess I just do so few of them that I can just dig my pull behind out when I need it...thats how I view it at least....but if I start to get more your idea makes perfect sense.

americanlawn
08-17-2006, 08:03 PM
This is a joke - right? LOL

PMLAWN
08-17-2006, 08:53 PM
I think it is a great idea-- please tell me where and when--




$10k on AFV here I come:waving:

GreenUtah
08-18-2006, 10:25 AM
I heard the shoes compact the soil around the spikes, which defeats the purpose.

Chad

There are certainly spiking aerators out there in the big, bad boy variation, used by some golf and sports fields for quick and dirty hole punching without core harvesting, generally related to drainage more so than compaction relief. However, these machine still punch a larger hole than the nail sized "tines" on those shoes, larger and deeper and sometimes as a slit instead of a round hole. That does not mean that they won't have to go back for a core aeration later, but for a quick fix, it's certainly better than nothing. For a homeowner who will likley only have this service done only once per year, if even that frequent, it's imperative to core and maximize the loosening for longer term results. As said above, call your local rental yard and get a machine for the day or half day, try and sell a couple of neighbors on having it done at the same time to share the cost and do it right. Skip the gadgets.