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Splicer
05-12-2006, 08:13 PM
What would be the easiest fastest best method to pull/push/place 4" schedule 40 pipe under an existing (tho new build) entranceway walk? It needs to go about 3 feet. I don't want to mess with the weight integrity of the sidewalk by digging but may have no choice?:confused:
Wet_Boots
05-12-2006, 08:30 PM
If the walkway is concrete, you can dig under it without much worry. Concrete seems to support its own weight no matter what.
Splicer
05-12-2006, 08:36 PM
If the walkway is concrete, you can dig under it without much worry. Concrete seems to support its own weight no matter what.
But over time what about settling/collapse? Thanks for respondng...What about the weight of refrigerators (as an example)?
Wet_Boots
05-12-2006, 08:48 PM
I just don't see many/any collapsed concrete sidewalks, and never any where I've jetted (water power) a pipe or two under a concrete walkway. And I know I left some airspace under there. Maybe it just works out that a sidewalk thick enough to not crack on its own will stand up to being tunneled under. If the walk is only three feet wide, you could easily backfill/pack some gravel or sand around your sleeve.
bumper
05-12-2006, 08:52 PM
It clings to 3/8" rebar like ugly clings to an ape
Dirty Water
05-12-2006, 08:57 PM
Concrete has a lot of structural integrity due to the rebar reinforcement. The worst that may happen will be a hairline crack on the surface directly under where you dug.
Asphalt, on the other hand, should be bored in such a way that you will not leave any voids.
We have dug under many many sidewalks by hand.
Avery
05-12-2006, 09:34 PM
Wash or blow it through.
Dirty Water
05-12-2006, 11:47 PM
Wash or blow it through.
You guys are lucky that it works there. We have so many rocks up here that the only option is to dig or bore it.
Splicer
05-13-2006, 08:28 AM
Wash or blow it through.
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Kartanimal29
05-13-2006, 09:32 AM
You should have no problem tunneling under a concrete walk. Vermeer make a hammer mole if you want to go that far. We have a 2.5 and a 4 in. mole, they work great just as long as it's not sandy or rocky.
If you have to dig it by hand, make sure you dig back about 5 ft from the walk,both sides, to insure you get a straight shot to the other side. Just dig half way on one side then go to the other side and finish.
I take about three shovel full's of dirt a throught it under the walk. Then I take a sledge hammer and pack it in. or you could use your toe of your boot.
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Oxmow
05-14-2006, 05:15 PM
We also use a trench on both sides and a sharpshooter from both sides. Pack what dirt you can back in around the sleeve. No worries.
ESprinklers
05-23-2006, 08:40 AM
Try using something like a Borit, it comes with a 4 3/4" reemer bit that works pretty good for larger pipe sleeves. Just bore through the first time with the 2 or 3 inch bit, then swap out to the 4 3/4" reemer bit on the other side and pull back through.
Splicer
05-23-2006, 09:43 AM
Sorry...should have updated y'all:o ...
I put the 4" schedule 40 pipe under the sidewalk...ended up having to dig it out as it was all 57 rock and sand...could only knock the pipe thru probably 3"-4" in the center...then I packed all the rock/sand I could back in the hole...jumped on the sidewalk and no flex so I think it will be fine...
Thanks for all the advice:clapping: :drinkup: :usflag:
HooKooDooKu
05-23-2006, 12:10 PM
You guys are lucky that it works there. We have so many rocks up here that the only option is to dig or bore it.
I've got a bunch of nasty rocks and clay in my yard, but I've been able to blast my way under sidewalks. Now granted at least one of those was with a 2000+psi pressure washer.
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