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Husky03
05-17-2006, 11:25 PM
I have a 2.8L V6 Chevy S10. How big of an enclosed trailer can I tow. The trailer will have 1 or 2 ZTR's in it. I realize I will not move quickly, but will it be able to handle it for a little while? I currently tow a 7'x10' open trailer with 1 ZTR with no serious trouble other than braking issues when wet.

Thanks...

jblawns123
05-17-2006, 11:39 PM
Those 2.8L were weak motors. The early carb versions even worse. You will be putting the final nail in the coffin pulling an enclosed trailer with it.

But is you must 6x12 is the largest I would go.... But the problem will be brakes. Single axle trailers don't come with brakes.... Get a dual axle with brakes and then you will be pulling even more that you can't handle.

Stick the truck on ebay and but a suitable truck for towing.

Husky03
05-17-2006, 11:56 PM
The engine is fuel injected. The truck has 80,000 mile on it and is in perfect condition. I will not be able to afford a new ZTR and truck this year. The trailer needs to come before the ZTR, but the truck should come before both.:cry: Also, some of the single axle enclosed do come with brakes. Thank you for the help. Any more welcome.

MMLawn
05-18-2006, 12:07 AM
NO, esp with 2 Z's in it........PLUS more importantly it won't STOP it either.

Husky03
05-18-2006, 12:18 AM
How much trouble will I have pulling a 7'x14' open landscape trailer.

Thanks...

QualityLawnCare4u
05-18-2006, 12:31 AM
I have a 6 x 16 open trailor and tow with a Tundra V8. I had a single axle before the double axle and there is a BIG differnece in towing with double axle. Even though it is heavier it tows much better. Now to answer your question when I have just one z on the trailor the truck tows effortlessly, with both there is a big differnece. It still tows fine but you can tell its back there and you better not have to stop in a hurry. A S10 would be in big trouble trying to tow what you want to tow and Im affraid also would be dangerous to. I tried to tow mine with a toyota small truck similar to yours and when you got over 30 it was scary and the temp needle started going up real high. You might could get by with a small trailor but not an enclosed with 2 z,s on it. I will say I have seen some around here pulling large trailors but they were going real slow and the truck sounded like it was hurting big time when it pulled off from a dead stop.

jazak
05-18-2006, 10:21 AM
NO.................................

efaubert1
05-18-2006, 04:25 PM
I wouldn't, not enough truck to fight a wind block, the weight, and the fact that the truck probably isn't even rated to tow that much.

stuffdeer
05-18-2006, 11:35 PM
I'm only 15, but we have towed our 18 ft boat single axle, no brakes, 120 miles, it was slow, and slow stopping. But I only have the 2.2 l and, a manual tranny.

I also pulled a 14ft open trailer w/ brakes...Pulled fine, and stopped fine.

Dirty Water
05-19-2006, 01:07 AM
I used to have a 2.8 S-10. I would tow a small ditchwitch with it (2,000 lbs or so) on a real tiny trailer.

Even with that, braking was somewhat scary.

MTR
05-19-2006, 03:36 AM
I have a 2.8L V6 Chevy S10. How big of an enclosed trailer can I tow. The trailer will have 1 or 2 ZTR's in it. I realize I will not move quickly, but will it be able to handle it for a little while? I currently tow a 7'x10' open trailer with 1 ZTR with no serious trouble other than braking issues when wet.

Thanks...

Your clutch will give up like in a month or less if you pull with 2 z on it!
An enclosed trailer is a lot heavier than open trailer.

ed2150
05-21-2006, 01:13 AM
I pull my stuff with a 97 S-10 with 4.3L engine & auto transmission. My trailer, loaded with 1 Z, push mower, and other handheld stuff, weighs just a little over 2500 lbs.

It's as much as the truck needs to be pulling. It's quite a strain, but at least stopping isn't a problem since my trailer has brakes.

There is NO WAY you can pull 2 Z's in an enclosed trailer with 4 cyl. S-10 and expect your truck not to have problems in short order. With the 2nd Z and an enclosed trailer, you'd be pulling at least 3,500 to 4,000 lbs.

Dirty Water
05-21-2006, 01:36 AM
The 2.8 is a v6. Its from the '80s S-10's.

Its a horrible V6, one of the worst ones chevy made.

pottstim
05-21-2006, 02:37 AM
My dad had a '93 S10 2wd 5 speed that he bought brand new. He traded it in 2001 for a Silverado 1500 Ext cab. From '93-01 he put 98,000 miles on that truck and the only thing he did to it was put 1 set of brakes on it, one tune-up, radiator flushes, and Castrol Syntec every 3,000 miles. It would get a honest to goodness 30 mpg on the highway, which was better than the 2.2 4 cyl in my '95 S10 got (27 mpg average). The rear main on dad's truck was weaping when he traded, but other than that it ran like brand new. He never pulled anything with it, but he made lots of Lowe's/Home Depot runs with it. Rear mains were one of the big problems with the 2.8's along with intake manifold gaskets. I've never seen a 2.8 with a blown intake, but have seen plenty with leaky rear mains. As far as pulling an enclosed trailer with your truck, I believe I'd pass. These trucks were meant to be economical light duty haulers. If I remember correctly the max trailer weight for this particular truck was 2,000 lbs. In other words, don't send a boy to do a man's job. Best of luck.

Brianslawn
05-21-2006, 03:09 AM
my s10 will pull it. then again my s10 has a 5.7l in it. still, braking, especially when wet, is not good. why dont you quit being a lawnboy and become a professional. get a $100k loan. get a new f550 w/intregrated brake controller, 20' trailer with brakes. couple z's, few new trimmers and blowers, and go out and start making a million dollars a year.

topsites
05-22-2006, 11:48 AM
NO, esp with 2 Z's in it........PLUS more importantly it won't STOP it either.

Yup, good point because the brakes aren't heavy duty.

I keep trying to tell you guys, the transmission will fail on anything not rated to pull that much weight. Trust me, I burned one on a Thunderbird pulling an open 6x12 empty and you can say what you want but the T-bird has the same transmission as the 1/2 ton, so the S10 is even less than that, and if you have a manual then you'll be replacing the clutch about twice / year or more.

fulano
05-28-2006, 11:46 PM
I pull a 6x10 open trailer with my corolla and it has 110000 miles on it now. I have trailered all kinds of stuff including my craftsman lawn tractor, quicktrac, exmark, trash, brush and it is still running excellent. I wouldn't load up two ztrs and pull them every day though.

SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES
06-14-2006, 12:44 AM
Ok, here is the correct answer. Hook up say a 6x12 with a mower or so in it and hook it to that 2.8 and get up to about 55mph and when that light turns yeller, hit the brakes. When that mac truck comes on through his green light and you are still sliding through the intersection brace your self and think of all the good thoughts like, "it looks like its time to get a real truck." Dude, you are taking your life and others lives into your own hands when you try to max out your equipment. let me know what your route is so that I don't get on the road with my family and have to dodge you when you have to emergency brake.

turnerlawn
06-14-2006, 12:59 AM
no! get a diff truck

rfed32
06-14-2006, 01:30 AM
pulled a toro dingo on a 12x6 with my s10 and it wasnt the best pull let me tell you...also a 6x10 with a ztr and a wb and that was better in 4wheel then 2 but with the dingo my truck was hurtin on the take off...once i got going it would be ok just have to factor in stopin distance and stuff like that

ken6224
06-14-2006, 04:20 PM
S10 is rated for tongue wight of 350lbs
Gross at 3500

lawnboy dan
06-14-2006, 08:49 PM
how bad was the 2.8? after 2 yrs jeep dumped it in favor for a amc 6 that was desighned in the 1960,s isuzu dropped it too. 2.8=pos

MowerMoney
06-14-2006, 09:22 PM
I wouldn't do it. I've been pulling a 6" x 12" enclosed with a Dodge Dakota V8 (5.2 litre/ 318) for the last 3 years. While it pulls it okay (although I think the tranny is getting tired), I've had a few scary moments where I had to hit the brakes real quick and I thought that the thing was never going to stop sliding. Now I've got a 2004 Dodge Ram 1500. MUCH better!

elmo1537
06-14-2006, 11:41 PM
plain and simple you cant afford to buy a new truck, but you can afford a new z :hammerhead: :hammerhead: keep the z you have upgrade the truck and then buy another z. That z will be no good to you when it is sitting in the bed of your truck because you had a truck and trailer that was overloaded and you couldnt stop for the one jacka@@ that was in a hurry and pulled out in front of you.:usflag:

Petr51488
06-14-2006, 11:45 PM
But is you must 6x12 is the largest I would go.... But the problem will be brakes. Single axle trailers don't come with brakes.... Get a dual axle with brakes and then you will be pulling even more that you can't handle.


Single axle's do come with brakes.. I got mine from haulmark.. they were an add on but i have them...

fiveoboy01
06-17-2006, 04:02 PM
The 2.8 is a v6. Its from the '80s S-10's.

Its a horrible V6, one of the worst ones chevy made.

I can attest to that. I had an S10 4x4 with that motor, not a bad truck, but the engine was terrible. It could hardly get out of its own way, even unloaded.

ATL Lawn
09-21-2006, 07:25 PM
noooooooooooooooooooooooo

mike lane lawn care
09-21-2006, 10:27 PM
I pull a 6x10 open trailer with my corolla and it has 110000 miles on it now. I have trailered all kinds of stuff including my craftsman lawn tractor, quicktrac, exmark, trash, brush and it is still running excellent. I wouldn't load up two ztrs and pull them every day though.
you can't be serious. a Toyota corolla? my mom's old '95 hardly pulls itself up a hill with a kayak on top.

mountianview
01-07-2007, 12:50 AM
well ive got a 93 s10 v6 4.3 4wd she will have to pull or die trying ,try to stay off the mountian and stay on town roads not over 40 ,wont trust the ball on the bumper tho bigger truck next year I guess '' I hope'' isnt that what I have insurance for ,no balls no glory !!wont overload the trailer 1500 lbs max crazy?? dont feel it towed around 2000 lbs in trailer same truck ??

elmo1537
01-07-2007, 05:03 PM
I dont mind if you die trying but I worry about the people that you will take out with you. Do everybody a favor and stay off the roads. I have a wife a daughter that ride on the same roads that you think you can safely drive. Why are you even in the business if you cant afford the proper equiptment. :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

Why did you even bother bring up this thread anyways.

A.D Services
01-07-2007, 06:02 PM
i have ran mine hard every day pulling 1 ZTR 2 pushers and 1 WB and mine does fine although the original clutch is finally going out... thats right original clutch after 260,000 miles on it no enclosed trailer though. 4.3V6 was by far the best motor they put in these too bad they didnt put in the 5.7 in there. these are sick trucks when they have the v8s in them. i want to do that to mine someday but i dont think my motor will ever blow!

LawnTamer
01-07-2007, 06:56 PM
I have a 2.8L V6 Chevy S10. How big of an enclosed trailer can I tow. The trailer will have 1 or 2 ZTR's in it. I realize I will not move quickly, but will it be able to handle it for a little while? I currently tow a 7'x10' open trailer with 1 ZTR with no serious trouble other than braking issues when wet.

Thanks...

Enclosed trailer + 2 ZTRs + Other gear = Way too much for any S10. It's not just a matter of power, but weight ratio and wheel base.

wowmowwow
01-07-2007, 07:44 PM
you can not put two ztrs in 12'. my two walkbehinds wont fit a 12', they measure over 12 in length. i called around and wanted a 14' footer. i learned that steel comes in lengths of 12' or 16'. they told me that 14 footers were custom.

Turfcutters Plus
02-27-2009, 03:43 PM
I pulled 52''z on 5by8'trailer last year with a 2.2 chevy S-10.Take off and stopping sucks,and a little scary.Engine knocks a little now.I used the same truck out of town more w/out trailer on it.Gas was high,and i really saved$.My large truck and enclosed trailor was only used in wet spring.I'm solo,and think i'm going back to larger truck and enclosed trailer.I felt MUCH safer in traffic especially when it rained!I've been trying new things.Used to pull large open trailer with great side gate for 3 footer to come off.Was tired of driving around with so much ****,but i will say i was SOOOO efficient,never no back tracking.Might just use big rig this year.What you are pulling is insane!:nono:

MileHigh
02-27-2009, 04:20 PM
you can not put two ztrs in 12'. my two walkbehinds wont fit a 12', they measure over 12 in length. i called around and wanted a 14' footer. i learned that steel comes in lengths of 12' or 16'. they told me that 14 footers were custom.

that's not correct...

I can fit 3 walkbehinds in a 14 footer with a good 2 1/2 feet to spare...

genesis215
02-27-2009, 05:40 PM
I towed a 4x8 enclosed empty that weighed about 500 lbs. with a 1994 Pontiac TransSport minivan and 3.8L V6. It ran the engine in 3rd gear at 2500 rpm just to get home on level ground (never could get into overdrive with the weight). It was terrible trying to do that, and ran the fuel mileage way down. I would never pull anything larger than a 4x8 open trailer with an S10. It will pull a 4x8 fine, but never ANY enclosed trailer. I personally would never pull an enclosed with anything except a large V8 like the Chevy 5.7L or Ford 5.8L and 5.4L. I would sell the S10 and buy an older full-size '92-'99 Chevy or Ford for $1500-2500, possibly a 3/4-ton, and be done with it.

MileHigh
02-27-2009, 08:03 PM
I sure would like to see it try...lol

JS Landscaping
02-28-2009, 01:25 AM
Remember too that an enclosed trailer add's a lot of drag, not only are you pulling the added weight of the machinery, but you also are pulling against the air with all the drag from the trailer. No way with a s-10. Even with a half ton truck that is pushing it. Get yourself a 3/4 ton heavy duty truck instead of dumping money into the s-10 when it falls apart from trying to tow way too much. Pretty sure D.O.T would have a field day if your towing that much with that small of a truck. If you were to get into an accident with it, you could be into some trouble as well.

bryant lawn & landscape
03-11-2009, 12:02 AM
Ok, here is the correct answer. Hook up say a 6x12 with a mower or so in it and hook it to that 2.8 and get up to about 55mph and when that light turns yeller, hit the brakes. When that mac truck comes on through his green light and you are still sliding through the intersection brace your self and think of all the good thoughts like, "it looks like its time to get a real truck." Dude, you are taking your life and others lives into your own hands when you try to max out your equipment. let me know what your route is so that I don't get on the road with my family and have to dodge you when you have to emergency brake.

I agree totally, but Husky, I wouldn't bother giving him you're route info unless he has a confirmed family vacation planned to Indiana.

TXNSLighting
03-11-2009, 12:25 AM
you all do realize this is a 2 year old thread right?

bryant lawn & landscape
03-11-2009, 12:42 AM
HaHa. Wonder how the S10's hangin ?!?!?!

corey4671
03-11-2009, 01:37 AM
I have a 2000 S10 with the 4.3 for just running around in. Once I decided to use it to haul my Everride in to the dealer on my 6x10 open trailer. never will do that again. I don't even like pulling that trailer empty with that truck.

DoetschOutdoor
03-11-2009, 03:04 PM
I have a 2000 S10 with the 4.3 for just running around in. Once I decided to use it to haul my Everride in to the dealer on my 6x10 open trailer. never will do that again. I don't even like pulling that trailer empty with that truck.

Something is definately wrong with your truck if you noticed that little weight. Buddy has a 99 S-10, we pull double jet ski trailer with 2 big three seaters and it pulls fine. He also pulls a 6x12 open with a 2 small mowers. My zr2 pulls my 6x12 enclosed trailer loaded up perfectly fine.

rfed32
03-11-2009, 03:33 PM
back in the day i would pull excavators with my s10...it was the ****...