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guven
05-25-2006, 10:50 PM
Last year I did a lot of fall clean up. I was using my redmax8000 blower which is very good , This coming fall I am going to have more fall clean up, I was thinking I should get push blower ( How many HP do I get it)

what do you use most of your fall or spring clean up.
what is the best thing I have to get it for fall clean up
I am small solo 2 years in Business, Thank

topsites
05-25-2006, 11:06 PM
Save your winter money first, I just finished saving mine, this helps you have a take it or leave it attitude come leaf season, I find this attitude of the essence if at no other time, then definitely during leaf season.

Once you have your winter money saved, keep saving because you'll need it.

That having been said, you need at least 8 horses, I have a 10-horse Billygoat which is about a thousand dollars but you can get them on sale for around 900 but figure about a hundred dollars a horse.

Plainly put, the more horses you have, the more cfm you put out, the 10-horse goat puts out a rude (and it is rude) 2,400 cfm, I mean it moves at least 4 - 6 times more than your best backpack, that thing moves leaves like it's on steroids, the 10-horse goat is the one tool that actually makes me WANT to do leaves (and I hate leaves).

I finish most yards with the goat in 1-4 hours, I'm talking stuff like this took me an hour:
http://stonypointlawncare.com/images/before.jpg
http://stonypointlawncare.com/images/after.jpg
So in the above pictures, that's 50 dollars and they pay this money a lot easier than with a backpack I am fighting for $40 / hour.

Of course you can go bigger but the price and the weight get astronomical, these are push blowers thou the really heavy models some are self-propelled but the larger the mule, the harder it is to move around because it will sink in the soft spots. Even the 8-10 horse blowers are a bit rough, but tolerable considering the work they get done.

5-6 horses is for homeowners.
Yes 8 horses is good for commercial but 10 horses rule.

guven
05-25-2006, 11:35 PM
Sir Thank you for your time, I appreciate. really you gave me bunch of good info. I have billy goat 33'' finish mower, I checked their push blower, if you are happy with it and I should get it. you said push blower is 3-4 times better then my redmax8000. it is very good I can save time and get more job done. thanks again

carcrz
05-26-2006, 12:03 AM
Just curious, but why are you guys even using a push blower? I use my b/p blower around the stuff I can't get up to & in the landscaping. Then I just bag it all up w/ the Walker mower. It is very fast & does an excellent job. If it is really thick, I might mow over it first w/ the bagger open to mulch it up some more first.

Grizzly290
05-26-2006, 10:06 PM
If I were you, I would get the 9hp Honda engine on whatever push blower you get. Face it, the engine is VERY important, and I have had nothing but good luck with Honda engines. I know they cost a little more, but they are worth it. Currently I have: GX270 9hp on a Little Wonder push blower, GX160 5.5hp on a Log Splitter, 5hp Honda Snowblower, GXV340 11hp on 20 year old Gravely walk behind mower, and a Honda motorcycle that's almost 20 years old. They all run great and start very easily, and give no hassles. Just my .02$ Grizzly

Petr51488
05-26-2006, 10:10 PM
If I were you, I would get the 9hp Honda engine on whatever push blower you get. Face it, the engine is VERY important, and I have had nothing but good luck with Honda engines. I know they cost a little more, but they are worth it. Currently I have: GX270 9hp on a Little Wonder push blower, GX160 5.5hp on a Log Splitter, 5hp Honda Snowblower, GXV340 11hp on 20 year old Gravely walk behind mower, and a Honda motorcycle that's almost 20 years old. They all run great and start very easily, and give no hassles. Just my .02$ Grizzly


I'm going to have to agree with grizzly. Honda's have been nothing but good quality machines.. I have a honda mower, generator, log splitter, power rake, just bought a honda atv, and a snow blower. All with honda engines. They've never let me down.

grass_cuttin_fool
05-26-2006, 10:18 PM
I bought a used 5hp little wonder a few weeks ago. I have a few large parking lots to clean or keep the dirt off of. I tried it in some leaves left over from the winter, and I will agree on what alot of people say............get something more than 5 hp. I am going to use this for the upcoming season and then I may upgrade to a larger blower. I bought this one used and got it for a great price (100 dollars). It is working fine for parking lot maintence

wayne

topsites
05-26-2006, 10:29 PM
Just curious, but why are you guys even using a push blower? I use my b/p blower around the stuff I can't get up to & in the landscaping. Then I just bag it all up w/ the Walker mower. It is very fast & does an excellent job. If it is really thick, I might mow over it first w/ the bagger open to mulch it up some more first.

If you think the backpack is good, you don't know how much fun you're missing out on.

The pushblower moves branches and sticks, trashcans, rocks, balls, flowerpots, really anything that isn't out of the way, it moves and fast... You have to be careful around gravel driveways because 10 horses at 2,400 cfm puts out such a piston-force of air that it will strip gravel in seconds flat. For a comparison test, try stripping a gravel driveway with the backpack sometime.

Backpacks are rated around 400-600 cfm, the 10 horse push is 2,400 cfm, let me put it this way: If you try to put your hand in front of the air outlet when it is running full steam, you may be able to hold it there but it may also scare you so bad that you'll never do it again because it just about rips your hand off, it is that strong. Where it is no challenge to cup my hand over the nozzle of a backpack, I don't think too many guys can hold shut the chute of a push blower, at least not a 10-horse.

It moves a pile of leaves a distance of 8-10 feet on grass, it will push the same pile almost across the street on a paved surface.

It will blow your wheelbarrow around the yard, lol.
You can almost blow snow with it, almost...

This is what ONE pass of the pushblower does, ONE time through:
http://stonypointlawncare.com/images/DCFN0013.JPG

Albemarle Lawn
05-26-2006, 10:38 PM
Giant Vac, 16HP, 2-cyl Kohler, hydro trans. I work it in conjunction with two to three Redmax backpacks (EB8000). Leaves get scared and run, even four foot high wet piles.

The hydro drive is a must here in our hilly country.

topsites
05-26-2006, 10:41 PM
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mike lane lawn care
05-26-2006, 11:19 PM
i use a 16HP giant vac self propelled blower, and it will blow the siding off your house if you're not creful, i use this because many of my properties are multi-acre and have many trees. i am considering the tow attacment so i can tow it with a lawn tractor.

carcrz
05-27-2006, 01:03 AM
If you think the backpack is good, you don't know how much fun you're missing out on.

The pushblower moves branches and sticks, trashcans, rocks, balls, flowerpots, really anything that isn't out of the way, it moves and fast... You have to be careful around gravel driveways because 10 horses at 2,400 cfm puts out such a piston-force of air that it will strip gravel in seconds flat. For a comparison test, try stripping a gravel driveway with the backpack sometime.

Backpacks are rated around 400-600 cfm, the 10 horse push is 2,400 cfm, let me put it this way: If you try to put your hand in front of the air outlet when it is running full steam, you may be able to hold it there but it may also scare you so bad that you'll never do it again because it just about rips your hand off, it is that strong. Where it is no challenge to cup my hand over the nozzle of a backpack, I don't think too many guys can hold shut the chute of a push blower, at least not a 10-horse.

It moves a pile of leaves a distance of 8-10 feet on grass, it will push the same pile almost across the street on a paved surface.

It will blow your wheelbarrow around the yard, lol.
You can almost blow snow with it, almost...

This is what ONE pass of the pushblower does, ONE time through:
http://stonypointlawncare.com/images/DCFN0013.JPG

Oh I have no doubt that it will huff, puff, & blow the house down, but is the cost really worth it? I guess I enjoy just being able to sit on my behind & get up to dump a load of leaves rather than blowing it all into a pile & needing to rake it up. I guess this is how you are doing it, never used one so I am guessing here.

guven
05-27-2006, 01:46 AM
Just curious, but why are you guys even using a push blower? I use my b/p blower around the stuff I can't get up to & in the landscaping. Then I just bag it all up w/ the Walker mower. It is very fast & does an excellent job. If it is really thick, I might mow over it first w/ the bagger open to mulch it up some more first.

I do not know . I see most of LCO has one on their trailer.if I am going to save time get more job done I should get it.But still I am not clear. because most of my yard is not easy to use push blower but I am hoping to get more yard clean ups job then I can use it
thanks

guven
05-27-2006, 01:48 AM
Oh I have no doubt that it will huff, puff, & blow the house down, but is the cost really worth it? I guess I enjoy just being able to sit on my behind & get up to dump a load of leaves rather than blowing it all into a pile & needing to rake it up. I guess this is how you are doing it, never used one so I am guessing here.
I never use it one.

grass_cuttin_fool
05-27-2006, 07:48 AM
Oh I have no doubt that it will huff, puff, & blow the house down, but is the cost really worth it? I guess I enjoy just being able to sit on my behind & get up to dump a load of leaves rather than blowing it all into a pile & needing to rake it up. I guess this is how you are doing it, never used one so I am guessing here.

Im not sure what size catcher you have for leaves but when I use a grass catcher for leaves I have to dump every 25 feet, I spend more time dumping then if I used a rake. I think that the push blower is good for accounts that you can leave the leaves on the property or use it to blow them to the curb for removal

wayne

carcrz
05-27-2006, 09:00 AM
I can't remember how old the mower is off the top of my head, but a comparable model has a 6.7 bushel container. If I bag regularly, I usually end up w/ 9 loads dumped at the end. This translates into about a $90 mowing about every other week. I found that if I go over everything first w/ the Ferris/ Gator Blades/ Blocker plate onece or twice first that I can get much more into a load & can fit more in the truck. I charge accordingly & have never had anyone question my price because I leave their lawns looking much better than the guy next door.

carcrz
05-27-2006, 09:04 AM
Oh, that is for about a 15K SqFt lawn w/ 5 large Sycamores & 2 messy Oaks. The only downside that I have seen w/ the bagging mower is that it doesn't have enough suction for acorns in the lawn. This is something I have battled with from the beginning, but have yet to come up w/ a solution. I usually end up w/ a rake under the trees w/ nuts when I'm all done bagging. I charge by the hour for that.

2 clowns mowing
06-06-2006, 07:40 AM
eliet.com has a powerful blower and leaf pickup machines. they sell out of pittsburg pa. and will deliver at no charge:waving:

jazak
06-06-2006, 09:09 AM
Get a Little Wonder 13hp Honda great machine. If you have the money and the truck get a gaint vac to it makes loading a breeze.

Something D
06-06-2006, 11:52 AM
What do you all think about the Little Wonder (I think thats who makes it) leaf vac that is self propelled. It also has an attachment for mulch beds etc. The cost is about $1500.00 and I wonder if it is worth the purchase.