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NNJLandman
06-07-2006, 09:53 PM
I've done patios before when I used to work for a local company now that I've been working on my own lately I havnt had much call for hardscapes until recently, got a call for a paver patio. Its approx. 21 x 16 or 336 sqft. Now this guy had planned on doing it himself, had pavers delievered and took a second look and said F*** that ha. So nothing has been touched, the pavers sit in his yard the packaging is still on them. So I worked up a price of $8000.00 to install this and this includes a machine for 3 days and materials: QP, Sand, Topsoil, Seed, and Edging for the pavers. I figure about $5040 to install, thats $15.00/sqft., $about $735.00 for a machine for 3 days, and about $1800.00 in materials. Sound about right to yall. All help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Jeff

lawnboy
06-07-2006, 10:40 PM
damn if you can get that you are making out real good. 10 to 15 installed including bricks and everything is about average. That guy is crazy for paying that much, but if you can get it, get it i guess.

richallseasons
06-07-2006, 10:42 PM
sounds way high for him having the pavers already , good luck--$3,500.00 to $4,000.00 would be more in line

lawnboy
06-07-2006, 10:49 PM
i agree.... hell $3000 and you will make money if he has the pavers

mrusk
06-08-2006, 08:01 AM
How are you coming up with 1800 in materials? I don't think the materails would be that high even if you had to buy the pavers!

You need 7 yards of qp, 1 yard of sand, some edging, and joint sand. Even if you need some topsoil and seed i cant see you going over 600 in materials.

NNJLandman
06-08-2006, 12:49 PM
Mrusk how much would you charge for the entire job then.

Jeff

mrusk
06-08-2006, 01:03 PM
Ok. If its a rectangle, and the access and pattern are easy i'd shoot for 4500. Thats with roughly 600 in materials and a machine for 3 days. I know for a fact i could do this job by solo in less than 30 hours. So thats 4500-600-735(machine)= 105 per a man hour.

Day one is dig out and base.
Day 2 is laying the pavers.
Day 3 is cuts, edging, clean up and topsoil/reseeding.

I just don't know why you need a machine for 3 days? Seems like on day one you could dig the patio out, bring in your base material, and then dump the topsoil with in 10 feet of where you need it. So if you charge 4500 and rent the machine for 1 day, you than can make 121 an hour.

I just don't know how your coming up with 1800 for material. And if its just a rectangle patio 8000 is ridicoulously high.

Remember, this is with the customers pavers.

Matt

XXL Hardscaper
06-08-2006, 02:34 PM
I think mrusk is right on .........I would be:

961.32 additional materials
1330 Labor
1500 Cost of doing Business
758.26 Profit

For a total of $4549.58

NNJLandman
06-08-2006, 05:06 PM
Thanks guys for your help and guidence guys I see where I made my mistake in materials. Your probably right about the machine too, I dont think Ill need it all three days but I wanted to build it in just incase, whether or not I use it three days. I'm going to work up a proposal and we'll sit back and wait. Thanks agin.

Jeff

lawnboy
06-08-2006, 06:39 PM
still dont know how you guys get 6-9hundred extra in materials when they have the bricks but ok. You could buy all the bricks, edging, sand, crushed stone, and rent the machine for about that.

Ramairfreak98ss
06-09-2006, 11:26 AM
8k is heigh for labor? that would be a 10-12k job with supplies included i guess?

Ive seen companies charge 35k for a double stepped patio that was 35' by 16' depth tops, they get 3 customers in the same development too. Id guess they had about 6k in supplies. 29k isnt bad for 2 weeks worth of work and 4 guys huh.

how do you guys do patios for 3-4k? how is that worth all the labor?

zedosix
06-09-2006, 01:43 PM
Way too high. First off you should have a job like that done in one and a half days. Maximum. Not sure why anyone would need 3 days to excavate and lay 3 pallets of brick. Even if it was all curves it would only take a couple of hours for cutting. Not over 6 grand, and thats canadian currency. Good luck