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smarino21
06-12-2006, 11:21 PM
I am looking into buying a dump truck. I dont thinki wanna go out and spend 60k on a bran new one but maybe a used one that is gonna work out for snow and landscape. I know this maybe the wrong forem but no one responds in landscaping. I dont know how to figure it to be worth it or not?

jazak
06-12-2006, 11:25 PM
What new dump goes for $60K? You can get diesel F350s for $38K with a plow or a F550 for $43K with a plow.

smarino21
06-12-2006, 11:32 PM
how many tons can you hold ina 350? Whats better ford or chevy.?

green acres lawns
06-12-2006, 11:34 PM
Insurance is very high on a dump truck. Not worth the cost for only occasional use. If your doing a lot of dirt work, you could probubly justify it, For most other work, a ton truck with a landscaper bed would be more useful. Plus a lot cheaper to insure.

Fordsuvparts
06-12-2006, 11:38 PM
I made a deal today for a 2006 F-650 under CDL NEW for $42,000
so you don't have to spend 60 grand on a nice truck. Also you can do 3 times the work with a bigger truck, less trips means less gas which means more money saved. You could aways haul for other people in your down time of year.

ProStreetCamaro
06-12-2006, 11:54 PM
how many tons can you hold ina 350? Whats better ford or chevy.?


Well thats just personal oppinion really. Myself I am a chevy man all the way. Duramax hooked to an allison linked to a huge 14 bolt rear is a win win combo no matter how you look at it. Fords automatics suck behind a motor makeing that much torque and my uncle has had his 2 year old F-250 with powerstroke and auto in the shop at least 6-8 times for brake problems and engine problems. All I can say is test drive one of each and make your decision based on that.

Husky05
06-13-2006, 07:55 AM
Get a dump truck if you want to your business to really take off and if you are in this for the long haul get a dump truck. I bought a brand new 2005 GMC Sierra 3500 series two Marchs ago. Its the smallest 1 ton you can get. It has a 8 ft bed a 6.0 liter v8. I can hold 8 yards of mulch 5 yards of topsoil. When I am not landscaping I am cutting alot of grass and instead of bagging the grass in plastic bags, I just dump it in the truck, when Im done for the day just dump the grass...BIG time saver. My truck was 26,610 tax titled and licencse. GO for IT!

murray83
06-13-2006, 09:34 AM
why brand new?

with all your costs (insurance,inspections,fuel,tires) i'd buy an older 3 ton dump.you'll show a profit faster on an older used dump than a brand new one.

jazak
06-13-2006, 11:27 AM
You might want to wait and see what dodge is going to come out with. I know its going to be a 4500 and 5500 series truck. Should be good cause the are remaking the tranny and beefing up the engine. If you don't want to wait get a GMC 4500 or 5500, you can get them in 4x4, diesel, plow, aliison, auto, all power, around here for $45K. That the truck to get if you're hauling a mini-ex or skid steer. If you are using it just to pull a trailer with mowers then get a F350 or 3500 dump, make sure its 4x4, and diesel (wich you can pickup with a plow for around $35K-$38K without a plow you are looking at $32K- $35K) because the way gas is going diesel will should drop in price soon and you also get better fuel milage.
Almost forgot, saw a F450 diesel dump 4x4 auto with 200 miles, yes only two hundred miles on ebay for $30K yesterday it still has 6 days to go.) Just type in F450 dump and it will be one of the the first trucks in featured items or the 5th truck down. Jared

Shady Brook
06-13-2006, 09:55 PM
Get a dump truck if you want to your business to really take off and if you are in this for the long haul get a dump truck. I bought a brand new 2005 GMC Sierra 3500 series two Marchs ago. Its the smallest 1 ton you can get. It has a 8 ft bed a 6.0 liter v8. I can hold 8 yards of mulch 5 yards of topsoil. When I am not landscaping I am cutting alot of grass and instead of bagging the grass in plastic bags, I just dump it in the truck, when Im done for the day just dump the grass...BIG time saver. My truck was 26,610 tax titled and licencse. GO for IT!


How tall are the sides on this dump? They must be at least 4 feet tall to hold 8 yards of mulch. Let me know when and where you will be with 5 yards of topsoil on board. You will be going over 12,000 lb's in just dirt alone not counting the truck that is likely rated for only 11,000 lb's. That is just plain dangerous. Course I watched a Hispanic fella take 4,000 lb's of clay in the back of his S-10. Did not think it would make it out of the lot, but the bumper dragging on the ground was no deterrent for this determined fellow.

Gravel Rat
06-13-2006, 10:36 PM
A regular 1 ton is almost overloaded with a mason dump body so plan on only having a legal payload of 2000lbs or 1 yard of gravel. You move up to a 1.5 ton then you have a 5000lb payload or more.

You get into a F-450 you have rear axle rated at 11,000lbs for the older trucks 88-2003 and 12000lbs on the current truck a regular 1 ton only has a 9000lb rated axle a F-550 has a 13,000lb rear axle.

As for waiting for what Dodge brings with a 1.5 ton truck it is unproven they are 18 years behind when Ford first built a F-450. They don't even build a cab and chassis 1 ton.

I wouldn't go with a medium duty truck like a 3 ton truck with a light gvw because tires cost you more the insurance is more etc.

smarino21
06-14-2006, 12:57 AM
I was planning on doing salt though. Tell me what kind of truck to get. Also if someone can help me out witht he trucks and what they can hold say like

350- 2tons
450-??
550??
650???

jazak
06-14-2006, 12:06 PM
A regular 1 ton is almost overloaded with a mason dump body so plan on only having a legal payload of 2000lbs or 1 yard of gravel. You move up to a 1.5 ton then you have a 5000lb payload or more.

You get into a F-450 you have rear axle rated at 11,000lbs for the older trucks 88-2003 and 12000lbs on the current truck a regular 1 ton only has a 9000lb rated axle a F-550 has a 13,000lb rear axle.

As for waiting for what Dodge brings with a 1.5 ton truck it is unproven they are 18 years behind when Ford first built a F-450. They don't even build a cab and chassis 1 ton.

I wouldn't go with a medium duty truck like a 3 ton truck with a light gvw because tires cost you more the insurance is more etc.

Actually they do.

cgrappler135
06-14-2006, 05:00 PM
smarino i have a 2001 f350 4 yard dump for sale with plow and salter 39,000 miles asking $23,500 obo i'm out of livonia Michigan close to you

smarino21
06-14-2006, 05:13 PM
Send me some details such as kinda plow, salter, how many tons of salt u can put, reason for selling .. Thanks

Mike33
06-14-2006, 08:56 PM
Well thats just personal oppinion really. Myself I am a chevy man all the way. Duramax hooked to an allison linked to a huge 14 bolt rear is a win win combo no matter how you look at it. Fords automatics suck behind a motor makeing that much torque and my uncle has had his 2 year old F-250 with powerstroke and auto in the shop at least 6-8 times for brake problems and engine problems. All I can say is test drive one of each and make your decision based on that.
Thats because the 6.0 is a piece of ****. i own one
mike

cgrappler135
06-14-2006, 09:05 PM
Smarino it has a 7.3 liter engine, 9.2 boss v blade, airflo vbox spreader thats holds 2 tons maybe 3 with sides and am getting rid of it cause i'm switching to just lawns and no landscape plus opening a mortgage company. Contact me at 313-537-1590 (leave your contact # if no answer) thanks.

Mike33
06-14-2006, 09:07 PM
Talk to guys who own trrucks, they call them the neccessary evil. I ve been in bus. for 10 years and i dont own a dump truck. Im a 2 man company with 1 set of licences. When i build walls the quarry delivers 22 ton for 60-$ 75.00 When i install new yards i have tri axles deliver the dirt. When i need dirt hauled away from excav. i have a friend who has a single axle 12 ton legal for $ 50.00 hour. I own a dump trailer for haul in and away of small incriments. I dont care to own 1 for the reason of the expense. I install a yard and need 200 ton of top soil i dont want to haul it in 3 ton loads. Im building a wall now that recquired 100 ton of stone. I dont want to haul it 3 ton at a time. Do i want to buy a truck that can handle these loads ? Hell no ! I will stick to my practices it just recquires thinking ahead and good scheduling.
mike