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TheYardBoys
06-19-2006, 09:32 AM
I am fourteen and i co own a yard business. My co owner is 18 and we have been mowing for a year and a half. We have 29 accounts and looking in to having about 40. This seems like a lot but we have to husquvarna mowers. Mine in a 48 in cut commercial zero turning. His is a 42 in cut commercial zero turning. We run a 5x10 trailer and were building weed eater rack right now. We have my truck which is a 86 gmc. We have two maryaumie weed eaters, one stilh blower , a stilh hedge trimmer and a stilh chainsaw. Do you think this is good for our firs real year.:headphones:
jazak
06-19-2006, 01:54 PM
Are you insured? Do you pay taxes? If not any one can do what you are doing? But for your first year I guess it doesn't matter just do it by the second.
PJDiesel
06-19-2006, 02:07 PM
So, you started work at 12 1/2 years old with a 16 yr. old buddy?:confused:
TheYardBoys
06-22-2006, 09:52 PM
im not insured but we as a company plan to and we dont pay taxes yet. should we pay taxes?
TheYardBoys
06-22-2006, 09:53 PM
yeah me and my best friend started the bussiness and when he turned eigyhteen he went to work for his dad so know im workin with one of my other friends
THEGOLDPRO
06-22-2006, 11:00 PM
post some pics little guy, lets see the goods.
TheYardBoys
06-30-2006, 04:20 PM
i would post pics but i havent figured out how to put them on here yet but when i do i plan to put pics
jazak
06-30-2006, 05:46 PM
Its not hard just go to manage attachments hit browse then add the pic you want. Or are you all talk? ;)
TheYardBoys
07-05-2006, 11:55 AM
how do i get the picture off my digital camera to the site
would i put it to a document and then attact it
jazak
07-05-2006, 03:04 PM
Yep put in a pic document the hit manage attachments then hit browse go to the document you put it in and the hit upload and then attach. It should come right up. Hope this helps.
TheYardBoys
07-05-2006, 04:46 PM
sry ill take better pics later but i just wanted to prove it . the rest of my equipment is at my partners house but in later pics ill show yall every thing i promise:gunsfirin
mcwlandscaping
07-05-2006, 05:33 PM
im looking forward to the other pics, nice setup for ur age and position
TheYardBoys
07-05-2006, 06:04 PM
thanks and as soon as i can i well put more pics
DodgeTruckMan731
07-05-2006, 07:00 PM
wish i had 2 ztrs and co owner in a company when i was your age, lol even tho im only 15, and still dont have those mowes but a mini Z will be coming the end of this month or beginning of next.
Idealtim
07-05-2006, 07:54 PM
How do you like the 'residential' strength mower in the back? I plan to buy a cub cadet about the same size[21hp/50''].
jazak
07-05-2006, 08:58 PM
Do you split all costs? How many accounts do you currently service? Do you do anything else besides cut grass?
dcondon
07-05-2006, 09:06 PM
im not insured but we as a company plan to and we dont pay taxes yet. should we pay taxes?
Of course you have to pay taxes. Just wait until you get caught!!!! PLUS, get insured ASAP!!!! That's if you want to run a true business:nono:
TriCountyLawn
07-06-2006, 07:59 PM
Nice tree house...errr I mean office in the backround.
muddstopper
07-07-2006, 10:04 PM
What is the weight of those two mowers. Just looks like a lot to have on a single axle trailer.
TheYardBoys
07-10-2006, 09:45 AM
dodge truck man: i love the two mowers they are great
Idealtim: the residential is the highest residential they make and ive ahd no trouble out of it
TheYardBoys
07-10-2006, 08:35 PM
jazak: yes we split the cost of everything. we currently have 27 accounts and we do mowing any kind of yard clean up and tree cutting and pressure washind and bushhogging
muddstopper: i dont know the exact weight but it is a lot but that is a heavy duty axle that didnt originaly come on the trailor so it can hail the weight for no wuntill i get a new trailor
TheYardBoys
07-10-2006, 09:03 PM
:weightlifter: :clapping: sorry for the wait but the new pictures are here:clapping: :weightlifter:
TheYardBoys
07-10-2006, 09:07 PM
hey sorry i couldnt put them on one thing
TheYardBoys
07-10-2006, 09:10 PM
sorry there is more
TheYardBoys
07-10-2006, 09:11 PM
sorry i hate that i can only put 5 to a post
exmark01
07-16-2006, 05:04 PM
wow. you have a full company and your are my age/ wow! nice equipment
jchdb
07-19-2006, 11:43 AM
OK nobody has asked this.... How did you get all the equipment?
My son is 12yrs old and he started mowing this year. Then we got involved too and we are doing it because it is GOOD money. He has his accounts we have ours and then sometimes we work together and split. All his equipment is OURS.
ZOO YORK
07-19-2006, 01:04 PM
that truck is an 86 gmc u say? it looks like the older style 73-79. i can tell by the marker light on the fender. also i think that you might wanna remeasure that trailer, looks a bit bigger then a 5x10. :confused:
N&CLandscaping
07-25-2006, 12:38 PM
Ya, I think that is great! Im 16 and dont even have all that equipment and ive been in the Business for 2 years!
Equipment:
-(1) 21" Mower
-(1) String Trimmer
-(1) Backpack Blower
-(1) Shred N' Vac/Hand Blower
__________________________
Coming Soon:
-Echo String Trimmer
-36" Ferris Mower
-Walker Mower
-14' Open Trailer
-Echo Backpack Blower
THEGOLDPRO
07-25-2006, 04:33 PM
no no kiddin where did you young fellas get the money to buy all this???
jchdb
07-26-2006, 08:15 AM
I'm still waiting for an answer from YARD BOYS.
TheYardBoys
07-29-2006, 09:29 PM
jcdb- i got all the eqiipment by hard work and loveing parents dont think im spoiled because im not there only paying for half of every thing then were paying for the rest
zoo york- sorry your right its a 76 gmc and 8im sorry i put that my trailor is 5x14
stuffdeer
07-31-2006, 08:00 PM
Your parents pay half for everything?!?!
Jeez...your spoiled.
My parents may forward me one or two hundred here or there, but not that much. And I end up paying them back.
My parents aren't giving me a dime for the Toro Z I'm buying next year.
ChadsLawn
07-31-2006, 08:15 PM
My parents use to own a LCO. My dad asked me if I wanted to give it a try on my own. I said yes.. He gave me a 36(I still have and use) and a 6x12 trailer(i still have and use) Ive had to buy eveything else.
blakeg314
07-31-2006, 08:36 PM
id look into a backpack blower, stihl or redmax
GBSLAND
07-31-2006, 09:18 PM
Yard Boys- How are things working out with your friend? I just asking because i am in the middle of buying out my old partner (disagreeing on how things should be done). I was told not to go the whole partnership way. But hey if things work out for you thats awsome.
Gary
Jeds_Lawn_Care
07-31-2006, 09:54 PM
Sounds awsome. How much did it cost you guys to get your signs made?
Jeds_Lawn_Care
07-31-2006, 10:16 PM
I'm 15 and here is my equiptment list -
Snapper 38" 18hp Z....This is the only thing I paid for completly myself.
Shindiawa 22F HomePro Trimmer (Dad paid half...part of b-day present...$90)
Stuff my Dad has bought
(All of the 2-cycle stuff we got used for a total of $600)
RedMax BC225 Trimmer
RedMax EB7001RH Blower
Sthil KM-110 Split-boom w/ Hedge Trimmer, Edger, Pole Pruner, and Trimmer attachments.
Craftsman 21" Push Mower w/ 6.5 Briggs motor.
4x8 Utility Trailer w/ Trimmer rack. (I paid 4 the rack)
For my birthday present My dad is getting my uncle to make a 6x14 and 1/2 ft dovetail trailer for me. I'll post pics when I can.
Don't let these guys on here make you feel bad for not paying for everything you use. It does take a hit to your pride, it makes you think you don't really own the business, I know all about it. But your parents know what is best.
I do want to pay for the next piece (and every other piece after that) of equiptment I buy though.
Gatewayuser
07-31-2006, 10:49 PM
Ya, I think that is great! Im 16 and dont even have all that equipment and ive been in the Business for 2 years!
Equipment:
-(1) 21" Mower
-(1) String Trimmer
-(1) Backpack Blower
-(1) Shred N' Vac/Hand Blower
__________________________
Coming Soon:
-Echo String Trimmer
-36" Ferris Mower
-Walker Mower
-14' Open Trailer
-Echo Backpack Blower
Thats what kind of equipment I started with when I was 12, now that I am all grown up I have stayed in this line of work and own a very successful lawn and landscape company that employs 4 people including my self.
I still think its great that kids still want to mow lawns I believe its good for you. If you parents paid for you stuff thats ok just pay them back. Everybody can say you spoiled but adults go out and get loans when they start does that mean they are spoiled too? I believe your parents are all smart they are investing in you future by giving you a business minded attitude from the beginning. I wish you all good luck just be careful and most of all have fun! Don't let every one push you around like some will kids too are able to accomplish great things.
J&R Landscaping
07-31-2006, 11:33 PM
How many accounts do you have and what kind of services do you provide?
Gatewayuser
07-31-2006, 11:45 PM
How many accounts do you have and what kind of services do you provide?
Please clarify who you are talking too?
I have around 60 regular customers and a customer base well over a hundred. We are full service including landscape design and installation but we are going away from that somewhat. We offer snow removal in the winter too.
J&R Landscaping
08-01-2006, 09:00 PM
How many accounts do you have and what kind of services do you provide?
Sorry, I should have been more specific... I was asking the yard boys how many accounts they had.
TheYardBoys
08-04-2006, 11:07 PM
stuff deer first of im not spoled ive worked very hard for what i have but it helps that my parents pay for some of it
blake314 personaly i would get a stihl
gbsland being partners has been easy we both do our part and listen to what the other one has to say so its great
our signs were 80 dollars and the suppleris signs were 40 so we payed 120 total
jeds lawn care thats awesome eqipment and your right i love to pay for my own eqipmaent and my tow new weedeaters i have payed for my self and im proud of them
jr landscaping wel i know have 34 residantal accounts and 8 commercial accounts we do any thing that has to do with mowing clean up digging holes you know that kind of stuff and i just started a 550 dollar contract to sod a yard so wish me luck
jazak
08-05-2006, 09:35 AM
stuff deer first of im not spoled ive worked very hard for what i have but it helps that my parents pay for some of it
blake314 personaly i would get a stihl
gbsland being partners has been easy we both do our part and listen to what the other one has to say so its great
our signs were 80 dollars and the suppleris signs were 40 so we payed 120 total
jeds lawn care thats awesome eqipment and your right i love to pay for my own eqipmaent and my tow new weedeaters i have payed for my self and im proud of them
jr landscaping wel i know have 34 residantal accounts and 8 commercial accounts we do any thing that has to do with mowing clean up digging holes you know that kind of stuff and i just started a 550 dollar contract to sod a yard so wish me luck
What is the square footage of the yard?
zak406
08-05-2006, 11:03 PM
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zak406
08-05-2006, 11:05 PM
Not dissing you but you say you have 8 commercial accounts but yet you are not inusred nor are you a legal buisness? Kinda hard for me to believe stuff deer first of im not spoled ive worked very hard for what i have but it helps that my parents pay for some of it
blake314 personaly i would get a stihl
gbsland being partners has been easy we both do our part and listen to what the other one has to say so its great
our signs were 80 dollars and the suppleris signs were 40 so we payed 120 total
jeds lawn care thats awesome eqipment and your right i love to pay for my own eqipmaent and my tow new weedeaters i have payed for my self and im proud of them
jr landscaping wel i know have 34 residantal accounts and 8 commercial accounts we do any thing that has to do with mowing clean up digging holes you know that kind of stuff and i just started a 550 dollar contract to sod a yard so wish me luck
THEGOLDPRO
08-05-2006, 11:33 PM
Not dissing you but you say you have 8 commercial accounts but yet you are not inusred nor are you a legal buisness? Kinda hard for me to believe
i was thinking the same thing, not to mention your probably still in school unless you dropped out, so how do you find time to go to school and maintain 30+ lawns and 8 commercial accounts????? me thinks your stretching the truth a bit.
zak406
08-06-2006, 10:06 PM
The 30 residential accounts i believe but the 8 commercial without insurance or a real liscenced company makes me wonder.
TheYardBoys
08-07-2006, 08:36 PM
jazak well the yard is a 16th of an acre
zak406 my commercial accounts said that they dont care if we have insurance or not because they know me real well and know that if i break any thing that i well pay for it.
thegoldpro first of all im still in school but our school hasnt started yet and when it does i well drop a couple of my residential accounts and i well mow every nite after school then i well mow on saturdays
TheYardBoys
08-07-2006, 08:38 PM
oh yeah Jazak i am making 550 dollars and the people are paying for all the sod
jazak
08-07-2006, 08:54 PM
I love your english?!?:dizzy: :hammerhead:
Real good business get a bunch of customers and then drop the because you don't know how to run a business :clapping: :hammerhead: :dizzy:
Abouth the commercail accounts, thats either total BS or those people are plaind dumb. :hammerhead: :dizzy: :hammerhead:
TheLawnBarber
08-07-2006, 10:29 PM
Yeah man pay more attention in English class. It is possiable to mow that amount of yards and still be in school if you drive. I mow 50 res, and 1 commcial. Start school at 8:00 a.m. ends at 2:50 p.m., work till it gets dark five days a week and work all day Saturday. I'm ready for 50 more!!!
The Lawn Barber & Jazak shouldn't be making fun of other peoples english. did you happen to reread your own post?
Gatewayuser
08-07-2006, 10:49 PM
Yeah man pay more attention in English class. It is possiable to mow that amount of yards and still be in school if you drive. I mow 50 res, and 1 commcial. Start school at 8:00 a.m. ends at 2:50 p.m., work till it gets dark five days a week and work all day Saturday. I'm ready for 50 more!!!
Hey Sean can you PLEASE close this thread don't you all think that this one has gone on far enough!
TheYardBoys
08-08-2006, 04:15 PM
no comment because i dot know how to spell good its one of those classes that i struggle in
and gate way user why do you think they sould close this thread
Gatewayuser
08-08-2006, 04:17 PM
no comment because i dot know how to spell good its one of those classes that i struggle in
and gate way user why do you think they sould close this thread
Because it always turns nasty when it gets to this point when its a younger person. I am all for young people taking care of lawns it builds business knowledge.
jazak
08-08-2006, 06:12 PM
Because it always turns nasty when it gets to this point when its a younger person. I am all for young people taking care of lawns it builds business knowledge.
I'm 16 and I have 10 accounts and am annoyed that this kid has 30 accounts but cares nothing about them. I could easily have 30 but I am not going to promise that I can take care of their property and then drop them because I can't manage my own schedule. I DON'T take advantage of people like this kid does. He will never make it if he continually get customers/accounts for a short peroid of time and then decides he can just drop them and make up some BS story so he doesn't look bad. He also can't have these commercails like he states because no one in their right mind would hire someone who doesn't have insurance. I DO. If this kid wants to be respected on here or any where then he must also give respect and to get 30 accounts just to make a quick buck and then dropping them is bad business, shows that you are rude and also uncaring to say the least. To make it any where in life you must make a name for yourself and how he is running his business and acting will only get him a name that nobody will hire or want to be around. For you to backup this kid shows that you either don't care about your customers or you haven't FULLY READ this thread. I also am for kids my age to start their own business and to learn something new but at least do it the right way and have some self-respect about it.
Sorry for bashing you on your english but its some of the worst I have seen on here. Everyone has problems but its what you do with your problems is what really matters.
Gatewayuser
08-08-2006, 06:45 PM
I am just tired of the I'm 14, 15, 16, 17 stories that turn into one big argument and everyone of them turns into a "I don't like your grammar or spelling etc. battle." I was just stating that the thread should be dropped because it Will go on forever, it always does and I was also just stating that age is not the reason it should be dropped. I don't think its right to take on customers who trust you and then to turn around and stab them in the back by dropping them mid season. Have fun and have a good year!
ALarsh
08-09-2006, 01:12 AM
Your doing good.... Instead of dropping some customers have you thought of having 2 guys running the Z's and then have 1 guy trimming. You will be able to get them all done quicker and you won't have to drop any. Good luck.
J&R Landscaping
08-09-2006, 08:57 AM
I am just tired of the I'm 14, 15, 16, 17 stories that turn into one big argument and everyone of them turns into a "I don't like your grammar or spelling etc. battle." I was just stating that the thread should be dropped because it Will go on forever, it always does and I was also just stating that age is not the reason it should be dropped. I don't think its right to take on customers who trust you and then to turn around and stab them in the back by dropping them mid season. Have fun and have a good year!
I would let him run his business according to his "strategy". Bad word of mouth will bite him and in three years or less, he'll be done! It doesn't sound like explaining anything will help either, its pretty clear his mind is made up.
scagwildcat
08-09-2006, 07:57 PM
not to put you down, its great that you are hard working and have some thing to look forward to after you go to collage!!! but in the state of conn. it would be called JAIL for your 18yr old buddy, no insurance, not paying taxes, and letting a 14yr old operate a machine!! thats just nuts in my book!its differant if your just mowing for peolpe your parents know. have you thought of whats going to happen if you get hurt or cause damage?? i myself , if i was a home owner in need of mowing would never hire a minor....
scagwildcat
08-09-2006, 08:11 PM
I am just tired of the I'm 14, 15, 16, 17 stories that turn into one big argument and everyone of them turns into a "I don't like your grammar or spelling etc. battle." I was just stating that the thread should be dropped because it Will go on forever, it always does and I was also just stating that age is not the reason it should be dropped. I don't think its right to take on customers who trust you and then to turn around and stab them in the back by dropping them mid season. Have fun and have a good year!
i think that Sean should make site for adults only !!! we take this profession
serous, this is how we put food on our tables, not how we get money to go to the movies on the weekend.. what if some one really needs help, and a 14yr old poses as a lco. its not right!! this site helps us learn and grow in the field, and to allow minors that just dont care about what really is involved in running a business is insane.... im all for helping others, thats how i got started others helped me, including the people on this site, i just think that this site should make sure that the people on it are just as respectable as the site itself....
TheYardBoys
08-13-2006, 03:23 PM
jazak -your wrong i put so much care into my accounts that people think i under charge when really i am very competattive and i have them on a sschedule so its easy to take care of them my customers are so satisfide they brag of my work and ive had no complaints
alarsh your right about getting more help and thats what im doing
oh to make my self clear im only dropping yards that are way out of town because you have to remeber that im not old enough to drive but i am keeping all the ones that are close to town or in town
scagwildcat well maybey thats how it is in conn. but here no one cares how old you are as long as you work hard and i am one of the hardest working teenagers in jena louisiana thank you and as far as this site being for adults only what are you saying that i dont have to help support my family by moing and i take this job very seriously. but i do understand what you mean when you say you have to support your family but im not hurting your bussiness in conn. and all the companies here respect me and i respect them so we are all cool
stuffdeer
08-13-2006, 06:25 PM
Why drop the yards...I thought your "HELPER" could drive. I would one...Never gain accounts and drop them through the school year. Thats just plain stupid.
zak406
08-17-2006, 10:52 PM
Why drop the yards...I thought your "HELPER" could drive. I would one...Never gain accounts and drop them through the school year. Thats just plain stupid.
Because this is a big joke.:hammerhead:
dvmcmrhp52
08-17-2006, 11:16 PM
[QUOTE=J&R Landscaping]I would let him run his business according to his "strategy". QUOTE]
There is no "business" to run here, it's all make believe.
stuffdeer
08-18-2006, 12:44 AM
This is Make believe, this kid has been lying?
J&R Landscaping
08-18-2006, 01:47 PM
Wouldn't be the first time I've heard it, sure it wont be the last!
TheYardBoys
08-19-2006, 08:14 PM
im not liening and i know that and God knows im not lkieing and i dont care what you "professionials" think
zim bob the landscaper
08-19-2006, 10:34 PM
im not liening and i know that and God knows im not lkieing and i dont care what you "professionials" think
dude Ive been in your position just respect them or ignore them. thats all i had to do. if your doing this to make a career thats good and if your doing this for college thats good. just keep going man. whatever your doing I'm sure its good so dont give up just because they want u to.
TheYardBoys
08-22-2006, 09:03 PM
zim bob the landscaper- thanks for the support
Pro-Scapes
08-26-2006, 12:52 PM
jazak: yes we split the cost of everything. we currently have 27 accounts and we do mowing any kind of yard clean up and tree cutting and pressure washind and bushhogging
muddstopper: i dont know the exact weight but it is a lot but that is a heavy duty axle that didnt originaly come on the trailor so it can hail the weight for no wuntill i get a new trailor
WHOA time out... Bushhogging at your age ? tree work ? no license or insurance.. Stick to lawns before you end up working your entire life to pay for someones house when you total it with a tree or tractor.
Just chaps me how people are "in business" or have a "company" but dont pay taxes... dont have insurance dont follow the laws ect.
Im all for younger guys cutting lawns after school and such but your not "in business" and you dont own a "business". You mow some lawns which is great that your not sitting in front of the video games but your not a "company" until you got a license hanging on your wall and an insurance policy on file.
jazak
08-26-2006, 02:56 PM
WHOA time out... Bushhogging at your age ? tree work ? no license or insurance.. Stick to lawns before you end up working your entire life to pay for someones house when you total it with a tree or tractor.
Just chaps me how people are "in business" or have a "company" but dont pay taxes... dont have insurance dont follow the laws ect.
Im all for younger guys cutting lawns after school and such but your not "in business" and you dont own a "business". You mow some lawns which is great that your not sitting in front of the video games but your not a "company" until you got a license hanging on your wall and an insurance policy on file.
Exactly!!!!:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: Finally some else tell these kids the truth.
stuffdeer
08-26-2006, 03:14 PM
WHOA time out... Bushhogging at your age ? tree work ? no license or insurance.. Stick to lawns before you end up working your entire life to pay for someones house when you total it with a tree or tractor.
Just chaps me how people are "in business" or have a "company" but dont pay taxes... dont have insurance dont follow the laws ect.
Im all for younger guys cutting lawns after school and such but your not "in business" and you dont own a "business". You mow some lawns which is great that your not sitting in front of the video games but your not a "company" until you got a license hanging on your wall and an insurance policy on file.
Help me get insurance at 15, and I'll be MORE than happy to pay for it.
SodKing
08-26-2006, 03:33 PM
Lets get back to the original thread...and hit the high points. You own a company? Really? it sounds like this is a hobby more than a business. You are not incorporated, pay no taxes, no insurance, no workers comp, nothing. You don't have a business. Your'e not of legal age to even enter into a contract....When you start to follow the rules, then you can come here and say you own a business. Until then, your the neighborhood boy.
Pro-Scapes
08-26-2006, 06:41 PM
He is right on one fact. Alot of people in the south dont care how old you are because they too started working at a young age.
Stuffdear you cant get insurance at your age because your not an adult. I admire your willingness to work. Yard boys you didnt get a Sod CONTRACT. you cannot sign a contract right now. I cant imagine your parents letting you do this because ultimatly they are responsible for you. Everytime you start your equipment on a "clients" property its a liability for them and for your parents. If your really that responsible you will take that in mind. Im sure yall are really mature for your ages but enev guys in REAL business a long long time have accidents even when they are careful. Its just a fact of life.
You need to check your state laws and see if your parents can get liability insurance on a business(yes this means them actually forming a business) but I doubt at 14 and 15 any company in thier right mind would cover you.
Stuffdeer I also would think twice about if your truck insurance covers your using it for "commercial" use or you maybe walking if you have an accident.
Alot of us pay 10's of thousands a year or more to be legitimate then people who get paid by mrs smith in cash try to make the same claim to fame as a business owner. Not trying to say you do a bad job but just be honest. Your not a business owner...You mow lawns and do odd jobs.
stuffdeer
08-26-2006, 06:59 PM
He is right on one fact. Alot of people in the south dont care how old you are because they too started working at a young age.
Stuffdear you cant get insurance at your age because your not an adult. I admire your willingness to work. Yard boys you didnt get a Sod CONTRACT. you cannot sign a contract right now. I cant imagine your parents letting you do this because ultimatly they are responsible for you. Everytime you start your equipment on a "clients" property its a liability for them and for your parents. If your really that responsible you will take that in mind. Im sure yall are really mature for your ages but enev guys in REAL business a long long time have accidents even when they are careful. Its just a fact of life.
You need to check your state laws and see if your parents can get liability insurance on a business(yes this means them actually forming a business) but I doubt at 14 and 15 any company in thier right mind would cover you.
Stuffdeer I also would think twice about if your truck insurance covers your using it for "commercial" use or you maybe walking if you have an accident.
Alot of us pay 10's of thousands a year or more to be legitimate then people who get paid by mrs smith in cash try to make the same claim to fame as a business owner. Not trying to say you do a bad job but just be honest. Your not a business owner...You mow lawns and do odd jobs.
Nope, The Truck doesn't have commercial insurance, And I probably won;t get it until I'm 18. (3 years from now)
Josh.S
08-26-2006, 11:07 PM
Wow you guys are so harsh.. just because he doesn't have insurance and such like me and alot of the rest of us on here does, it doesn't mean that it isn't a business. This boy is doing alot better than I was up until a couple years ago, except for the fact that he is in a partner ship, which is probably good for him but bad for the 18yr old. In my opinion a partner ship is a great way to do business if you don't care about that fact that you can make 2x the money by doing everything by yourself..
But anyhow.. Gj TheYardBoys.. you're doing very well for your age.. and just because you don't carry a $1m insurance policy like me and many others on here doesn't mean that what you have isn't a business... it just means its not a legit/legal business :nono:
jazak
08-27-2006, 10:09 AM
Well I'm fully insured so that doesn't bother me and I'm registered as a business.
YardBoys is fully ASSURED!:laugh: :laugh:
"I'm fully assured I can mow your grass":laugh: :laugh:
Josh.S
08-27-2006, 03:00 PM
Nice one jazak
jazak
08-27-2006, 04:49 PM
Nice one jazak
If you would like me to put up my insurance papers and business registered name and papers that show its registration I gladly will. So fell free to ask.
ALarsh
08-27-2006, 04:52 PM
I'd like to see the $30k job... haha just playing with you. *trucewhiteflag*
jazak
08-27-2006, 05:09 PM
I'd like to see the $30k job... haha just playing with you. *trucewhiteflag*
I'll get pics up soon of that $11K job I don't start it until next month. The $30K job isn't until next year or the year after since the owner doesn't know if they will be able to afford it next year. You got a little to worked up about that on LC. *trucewhiteflag*
TheYardBoys
08-27-2006, 05:28 PM
yall firt my partner has quit so i am now workin by my self which is hard and yall are right i may not be a bussiness in the professional eyes of yall but i could be out doing crack or dope or some other drugs so i think im doing good and yes i would love to pay insurance but like yall have already pointed out im not old enough
mow right- thanks for the support right now that is all that is keepin me mowing
jazak- i would like to compliment you. do you fell better about your self. you ask what am i talking about. well i will tell you . you have to good if you can show up a 14 year old dont you well i thik you should act your age
I also think teh rest of you should act your ages mabey im not the mowing company of today but i the mowing company of tomorrow and you try to support that and help in any way you can
what am i going on about all yall care about is you rbig contracts you r fansy insuranca and your stupid bussiness liscens well im sorry i even wasted yall time i was just trying to get some advise but obviously yall wont give it so what ever
Josh.S
08-27-2006, 08:23 PM
Calm down.. everywhere you go there will be people that put you down to make themselves feel better.. but let me tell you something..
In my experience, and many people on here would probably agree. That 20 solid $50 residentials is way better than 5 $200 business. The contracts are normally for year, and next year they will probably rebid and then if somebody bids $5 less than you, even though you did a great job for a whole year, they will probably quite you in a heart beat.
To build a good list of solid residentials is a SUPER good way start a lawncare business, because even if the big contracts and stuff falls through, you will probably still have all your residentials to carry you through the year.
Although if I were you, I wouldn't do much chainsawing or bushhogging without insurance. If a customer wants it done, tell them you'll get somebody else to do it, look in the yellow pages and get somebody to give you a free estimate on what they would charge. If it is $100 they would charge, tell the customer that you can have it done for $110, and then you make a few bucks for your time, and if somebody gets an arm cut off your not reliable.
That is the basic principal of subcontracting.
One more thing, its a GOOD thing in my opinion that your business partner quite as long as you have all the equipment and can still get job to job, you should just pay by the hour somebody else to help you if necessary, but you will make ALOT more money that way then splitting half and half, its just you need to make sure they don't tear up your equipment.
Also I too was in a partner ship at your age with my best friend, and then I bought his half of the equipment a couple years ago, and it financially the best thing that ever happened to my business. Considering I started it, then when I started making money, then we split everything down the middle, then when it started to go downhill he quite. Its a good thing now because I'm making WAY more money than ever!
I hope the best for you, and you are doing better now than I was at your age, so maybe when your my age maybe you'll be looking at 100 accounts.
PS : here is a litte about how I started
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=158209
jazak
08-27-2006, 09:48 PM
yall firt my partner has quit so i am now workin by my self which is hard and yall are right i may not be a bussiness in the professional eyes of yall but i could be out doing crack or dope or some other drugs so i think im doing good and yes i would love to pay insurance but like yall have already pointed out im not old enough
mow right- thanks for the support right now that is all that is keepin me mowing
jazak- i would like to compliment you. do you fell better about your self. you ask what am i talking about. well i will tell you . you have to good if you can show up a 14 year old dont you well i thik you should act your age
I also think teh rest of you should act your ages mabey im not the mowing company of today but i the mowing company of tomorrow and you try to support that and help in any way you can
what am i going on about all yall care about is you rbig contracts you r fansy insuranca and your stupid bussiness liscens well im sorry i even wasted yall time i was just trying to get some advise but obviously yall wont give it so what ever
Thankyou.:clapping: I also compliment you. The reason I got on your case was it just seemed a little odd how you described yourself and also a little fishy. If you have what you say you have, you posted pics of the equipment I believed you on that. I just didn't like that you called yourself a business which you're not and to me you came out as a 14yr old thats things he' in with the bigs. (THE GUYS DO NOT INCLUDE MYSELF AS I AM NO WHERE NEAR THEM). If you want help I'll give you help. Good luck with your "business" and hope you find a better worker.
In 4 years you will have your business until then just do your best and when you turn 18 you will already have a name for yourself.
TheYardBoys
08-28-2006, 11:29 AM
mow right - i agree i am making more money and i took you radvice but i done it last week i hired someone at 7 an hour and i still am making way more money than i was with a partner
Jazak- i understand why you were like that and i quess i would have benn to but thank for the offer for help oh and i under stand what you think of companies. but in my eyes i thought what yall are is a companie which is bigger than a bussiness so i considered myself a bussiness but i do plan to do this for the long run so one day i plan to be a companie
SodKing
08-28-2006, 01:59 PM
You hired someone? Make sure you pay your workers comp...
Josh.S
08-28-2006, 03:53 PM
You hired someone? Make sure you pay your workers comp...
im sure he isn't paying workers comp... just tell the dude you hired that he IS NOT officially working for you, and that if he gets hurt that you don't know anything about it and he has never worked for you in his life.. and make sure you pay him cash
Petr51488
08-28-2006, 10:10 PM
[QUOTE=TheYardBoys]yall firt my partner has quitQUOTE]
He's going to let you keep the truck? How are you going to drive from place to place if he was the driver?
DiMassa33
08-29-2006, 05:30 PM
this is such bu//sh*t, im sure he probally doesnt even have the business(or so called business) but even if he does, whats he gonna do? get a hitch for his ztr and drive it to his job with his trailer on the back? None of this story makes sense. Thats also such crap about the 8 commercial accounts. Wanna go ahead and tell us the names of those companies to see how legitimate they are?
Ive got nothing against the neighborhood boy, because i pretty much am one, but i dont like people coming on here making up such ridiculous stories and having others be morons and like "nice job keep it up"
I dont know but i think you must have about 1/4 of a brain to believe this story. Let's see some pictures of your work, with you actually at the job.
Idealtim
08-29-2006, 06:22 PM
Sounds like we have another jazak on our hands, lol! I agree with GatewayUser-cancel this thread.
jazak
08-29-2006, 06:54 PM
Ditto^^^ Maybe JAZAK is RIGHT then!!!!:laugh:
BTW my dad feels the same way about this one.
Gatewayuser
08-29-2006, 07:03 PM
Sounds like we have another jazak on our hands, lol! I agree with GatewayUser-cancel this thread.
See it always turns out this way when its about minors.
jazak
08-29-2006, 07:31 PM
I'm 16,lol.
jazak
08-29-2006, 07:40 PM
I'm 16. I agree with you Gateway but some of these "minors" tend to stretch the truth and I DON'T LIE. I believed him about his equipment but the commercil properties and some of the other stuff no. If he really has it how hard is it for him to post pics of hiom working on it? If he backed up what he said with proof I would then back him up 110%. But until then people will bash him. Some of the other younger people on here like myself if we posted our stories some people might not believe us no matter how much proof there is. There are three types of people on here,
Those that dislike the youngsters that want to start a "business" and tell their story.
Those that believe what the youngster says is true but is also careful not to be sucked into a lie. (myself)
And those who believe anything said on here.
Charles
08-29-2006, 09:31 PM
Too many disturbed by this thread so I will put it to bed
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