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K.Carothers
06-22-2006, 02:36 AM
I hate to bag. Actually, I turned every bid down that wanted bagged. I am re-thinking this game now that I have a 21" route.

Who uses mulching blades when bagging, thus eliminating up to half of the grass?

Is this a "smooth" way around this???


kc

Freddy_Kruger
06-22-2006, 03:09 AM
Well I use 21" toros with mulch blade, atomics. I mulch and bag but am moving toward mulching more some yards where its thick and wet I spend more time touching up the clumps with double mowing and blowing that I will just bag it next time. No secound guessing.

I haven't noticed a difference between the normal highlift and the mulch blade and I do use both but I wasnt looking for a difference. I have noticed that there is a lot less to bag though but I was thinking this is due to the dry weather but maybe you're on to something.

Olylawnboy
06-22-2006, 03:49 AM
I'm not sure if this helps but I havn't baged with my 21" hondas for over twelve years now. Gators have worked just fine. With my Walker (a 96 42" ghs) I run Gators, and there is a big difference when I have to bag. And I rarely have to bag. But when I do I like to think that I gain at least 40% over the stock blades. That's what I've found anyway.

topsites
06-22-2006, 05:22 AM
I don't bag because they don't pay me enough to do it.

So, I use standard hi lift blades and have NO bagging customers.

lawnboy dan
06-22-2006, 08:06 PM
a gator will only slightly reduce to amount of clippings bagged but it does provide enough lift that you can bag if you want too.

Dashunde
06-22-2006, 08:21 PM
Your talking about using "true" enclosed-deck mulching blades, right? The blades that are all bent up, lifting at the tips, pushing down in inner section?

Those should work pretty good... pretty sneaky too! (I like it.)

topsites
06-22-2006, 08:36 PM
Your talking about using "true" enclosed-deck mulching blades, right? The blades that are all bent up, lifting at the tips, pushing down in inner section?

Those should work pretty good... pretty sneaky too! (I like it.)

Come to think of it, I guess you could use mulchers with an OCDC system, then put the bag in place over the closed chute :laugh:
The only time it gets tricky is as they watch, they will not see you emptying the bag...

mcwlandscaping
06-22-2006, 08:38 PM
My honda packs the bag very tightly as it cuts so finley with the quadracut system on it.

All_Clear
06-22-2006, 08:44 PM
My 21" is set to mulch... I bagged it once with mulch blade and told the guy never again.

I don't offer bagging anymore. If they insist then they can pay me hourly, otherwise its mulching always.

Could get away with fake bagging on a very small lawn but if they ever asked you, you'd be getting yourself in a deeper lie, that's never a good thing. Better to be honest and either bag it or tell them No!


All Clear

Freddy_Kruger
06-22-2006, 08:50 PM
Come to think of it, I guess you could use mulchers with an OCDC system, then put the bag in place over the closed chute :laugh:
The only time it gets tricky is as they watch, they will not see you emptying the bag...
That was MY IDEA but I didn't want anyone to know how sneaky i am.

I was thinking why does justmowit have bags on their mowers if all they do is mulch? I tried mulching with the bag on but the plastic mulch thing blew into the bag after a while so i was thinking of drilling some holes to attach a cross piece to keep it in there.

I feel kind of sheepish with no bag on my mower but I havent had a customer complain about me not leaving bags for them to throw out.

lawncuttinfoo
06-23-2006, 10:39 AM
I add 25% for bagging and 50% for bagging plus removal. Anyone in my area has to drive 10 miles to the nearest dump and my the local garbage pickup charges $5 per bag. So I am still a better deal charging $3.50 per bag since most $30 lawns produce 2 bags.
but if I am hauling away I use contractor bags to pack 2 into one and get charged $0.75 cents per bag at the dump so hauling 3 bags to the dump I break even paying for gas and dump fees. And hauling 13 bags I make about $40 per hour on top of fees for the 45 min it takes to get there and back. Thanks for letting me work out my costs again.

Bagging lets me turn my 23 contracted lawns into 35 with no additional drive time. If the customer does not choose bagging at the start of the year my my contract still gives me the final say on when bagging is required. But I still wish everyone would choose bagging year round since its hard to say "your lawn required bagging even though you do not water it and it has not rained in 2 weeks."

lawnboy dan
06-23-2006, 08:13 PM
topsites -i actually used to fool a pita this way. used a toro comm with a closeable shute and just set the bag on and looked like i was bagging!

captken
06-24-2006, 09:31 AM
topsites -i actually used to fool a pita this way. used a toro comm with a closeable shute and just set the bag on and looked like i was bagging!

works for me!:waving: I have done that before.

PLM-1
06-24-2006, 11:46 AM
I've heard of a few guys around here that put the mulch baffles in and the bagger on. It would only bag 1/4 of you normally would. Some of them would also let the bag plug up and keep on mowing. :walking: