The oil boyz are at it again

[topsites]

OPEC - Oilmen Pocketing Extra Cash!!!

This in recent news:
New record high, 75+ a barrel, woohoo!
The crude price rises came amid worries that supply could be hit by continuing disputes over nuclear research in Iran, which is the world's fourth largest oil exporter. (hey, a new excuse!)

Missile tests in North Korea and instability in Nigeria have also sparked concern as demand for petrol gathers pace ahead of the US holiday season. (we must admit, they're getting good at it)

But such a shift may be affected by the imminent arrival of the US hurricane season, which last year wrought havoc in the oil-producing southern states. (thought we'd mention this sos, just in case)

Other Notes
They forgot to mention:
- Lack of sufficient refineries.
- China's booming demand.
- The continued decline of supply in the Alaskan pipeline.
- If we could only figure out how to get bird flu in there, that ought to work.

[dcgreenspro]

oil and gas prices make me wanna puke!!!!!! they got us all by the balls:cry:

[newz7151]

they got us all by the balls:cry:

And problem is, no matter how tight i close my eyes and try to imagine, it's still an ugly woman.. so I can get no pleasure from it.

[PerennialSuccess]

But hey, it's W's fault right!??? :rolleyes:

Just waiting for the blame the president post.

[CBramble]

Everyone is always blaming the oil companies, maybe we should put some blame on the government since gas is heavily taxed. Anyone know exactly how much? I can't imagine it being a few cents either....:hammerhead:

*Edit found the answer....

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

[ALarsh]

Yeah, I blame the gov't. We are the highest taxed state at 32.1 cents per a gallon. The gov't makes more $ off the gas than the oil companies do.

I just filled up... $3.25 / gallon. :dizzy:

[topsites]

What I dislike is every time someone even thinks of looking the wrong way, they use this as a reason to hike the prices, that's what I get so tired of. Everything else I'm basically ok with, but this feeding me the bull all the time.

[ALarsh]

I drive past Dalwali (sp?) Enterprises to get to some of my accounts. He owns upwards of 100 gas stations in WI. Lets say he is MAKING THE MONEY. He has driven a Rolls Royce phantom to work, several Ferrari's, a maybach and a couple other Mercede's and BMW's (parks outside). He went out of town and let his $400,000 Rolls Royce sit outside in the ran and hail for a week (limo driver takes him to the airport). I wanted to steal that beast sooo bad....:dancing:

[JJLandscapes]

everyone stop crying bout gas prices if you where head of exxon and your staff says lets raise the price and make 8 billion profit this year.. no one will say no

everyone complaining needs to realiZe Owning and driving an automobile is a luxury if the gas prices are up and hurting your pocket dont drive


and on the final note if a dollar more a gallon is hurting your landscaping business you are doing something wrong and need to restructure or using way to much un necessary equipment.... the breakdown off how much more im spending on each lawn due to gas is pennies and dont charge any surchages

[JJLandscapes]

forgot to say u think u got it bad for every penny a gallon goes up the airlines are losing 200 million a year

[Freddy_Kruger]

Why do americans whine so much about gas prices, whine whine whine...

[chimmygew]

Why do americans whine so much about gas prices, whine whine whine...


If you don't like it, don't read it... Eh

[DFW Area Landscaper]

Conoco Phillips is trading at like 6X cash flow. From what I understand, this company has tons of proven reserves, refining operations, a good retail operation, shipping, exploration...just about everything.

The stock market has been saying (at 6X cash flow) that $70 oil can't last forever. Either prices are headed down at the pump or Conoco Phillips is a STEAL at this price.

I'm gonna buy a bunch of COP and then if oil prices keep going up it won't bother me.

Later,
DFW Area Landscaper

[dcondon]

I was talking to 2 different gas station managers in town today and they both told me gas will be $3.50 by the end of this coming week. It will stay that way for the rest of the summer.:hammerhead:

[lawnman_scott]

Why do americans whine so much about gas prices, whine whine whine...Why do you hate Americans so much?

[lawnman_scott]

forgot to say u think u got it bad for every penny a gallon goes up the airlines are losing 200 million a yearMaybe they are doing something wrong and need to resructure like you did.

[Charles]

Our went up over 20 cent pg this past weekend. Of course its the busiest drive time of the year. Instead of saying they are going to gouge us for the 4th they make up other bs as a reason:rolleyes: This is gouging on top of gouging and it is sickening. I put close to 100$ in the SUV and equipment the other day and can't imagine what it would have been if everything was empty:rolleyes: There are no shortages. There are no Hurricanes. Nothing to warrant the price hike. Iran and NK are full of it like they have always been.
This is hurting our economy in so many ways. Its hurting our bottom line. People are spending less on lawncare because they have less to spend. $3.50 per gallon might mean that I increase prices on all my customers mid season and that would suck.
Taxes are nothing compared to oil company record profits. Oh yea they use tricky accounting to make out like they are only making a decent profit. Record money coming in thats for sure.

[topsites]

There are no shortages. There are no Hurricanes. Nothing to warrant the price hike. Iran and NK are full of it like they have always been.
Taxes are nothing compared to oil company record profits. Oh yea they use tricky accounting to make out like they are only making a decent profit. Record money coming in thats for sure.

Bingo, that's my problem exactly! We pump 80 million barrels / day at $75 pb = 6 billion dollars / day = SOMEBODY is getting PAID!

That's the part that frustrates me, I would much rather they feed it to us straight... We do have a problem, I'm not arguing about that. Every 3rd car on the road is at least a 6-cylinder but really v-8 is more like it. Not even small ones like say 289 cid ohhh no, gotta have at least 350 cid with 4 valves / cyl. But even if all we had were mostly 4-cyl's, that would do exactly what every big boy in charge is doing as far as solutions, which is so little, so late. What they're giving us in return for our money is the rough equivalent of adding a pint of free fuel to a 20 gallon gas tank, it extends our driving by 1 or 2 percent here and there, omg, gee, is that what this $6b / day is paying for, a thimble of fuel for a gas hog?

Why gas hogs? Because they're powerful, and we wanted power so we can't say we didn't ask for it. I myself love the power of a 2.5 liter 6-cylinder bmw engine, and I don't care if it costs me $3.50 to put high test in the tank, you step on it ONE time and you would like it, too. So if a 350-cid they want, I can see where they're coming from and I also admit the early-stage fuel efficient vehicles of the 1980's BLEW, cars of the 70's pulled more and went faster with less tech, thou the fuel mileage was worse.

Should energy be cheap? NO! That's exactly why we have the problem, but don't feed me the bull. Here's what I think they ought to be saying: Look, we know we're socking it to you because you don't have a choice. We wanted this problem when we touted the SUV through ad campaign after ad campaign, we promoted what we knew years ago was coming anyway. Nope, it doesn't really matter, you might as well drive the SUV because even the gas efficient vehicle only gives us 20 percent more time anyway, so just pay us the dang money and shut up and put up and DRIVE that powerful gas hog, hell yeah step on it because time is running out one way or the other. You bet, we'll pump every last drop until we can't get no more out of the ground, we will do it for you but boy it's going to cost.
Once we have enough money, we will work on a more permanent solution but we thought we should tell you that as of now we haven't figured much of anything out except those in charge drive the biggest gas hogs of them all.

I think that about sums it up, at least in my mind, that's the truth the way I see it.

[JJLandscapes]

Maybe they are doing something wrong and need to resructure like you did.


they use millions of gallons of fuel a day i use $80-100 worth a week on 116 properties


they get help from the govt,, i get help from all the checks i get from doing good work

[JJLandscapes]

and thats why many companies are going bankrupt while other are reporting record profits.....same as landscaping industry always the complainers doing something wrong and the profit makers doing everything right

so obvioulsy gas prices do make an effect but if some companies can succeed than tghe other ones need to learn how to run there company better ex. jetblue and southwest making low cost airfare and every company slowly trying to follow

[M RASCOE&SONS]

Yeah, I blame the gov't. We are the highest taxed state at 32.1 cents per a gallon. The gov't makes more $ off the gas than the oil companies do.

I just filled up... $3.25 / gallon. :dizzy:connecticut is 35 cent for the state tax per gallon and then they hit us with another 18.9 cents for the fed tax per gallon....makes me sick

[ALarsh]

The posted site says 26/27 cents per gallon for connecticut.

[Freddy_Kruger]

More and more countries (china, india) want more and more oil. They are competing for world oil supplies.

If I owned a oil company I would raise prices as much as I could, I sure wouldn't worry about what anybody thought about it.

Kinda like some of you LCO's, get as much as you can from your customers. Just business.

The good thing is, if they keep up with the high prices substitutes will flourish and THAT is a good thing.

[M RASCOE&SONS]

they use millions of gallons of fuel a day i use $80-100 worth a week on 116 properties


they get help from the govt,, i get help from all the checks i get from doing good workso your telling us you mow 116 properties with about 30 gallons of fuel cmon lets not be silly ..:hammerhead:

[Mudmower]

You guys kill me. Spontanious spikes don't just happen!!!!!! You think competing corner stations of ANY big oil companies just "for $hits and Giggles" raises it's prices?????

Go to the NYMEX and check out prices. Gasoline is a commodity. Your big brokerage houses are the ones RAPING us!!!!!!! They buy and sell contracts WITH NO EXPECTATION OF EVER TAKING DELIVERY OF THE PRODUCT!!!!! For every penny move up, they can pocket $550.00 on a single contract. Big Brokerage does not buy single contracts, they buy thousands or more. They can make money on the way up........and on the way down. One good (Lucky) broker, by him/herself, can make a company litteraly Hundreds of millions of dollars a year on oil and gas contracts. Ask yourself, where does this profit, for the brokerage house, come from..........yes, yours and my pocket..........

Educate yourself. The info is avaliable for free. Watch Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroid (sp) in the movie "Trading Places" as a start.

Jim

[ALarsh]

I would agree. 115 props. with 30 gallons is a little silly unless they are postage sized lots.

Anybody use these MPG caps? I'm thinking about getting some to try...
http://www.pillmeandgo.myffi.biz/en/section_100.asp?carPos=hummer

I also bought a K&N airfilter which increased my gas mileage 1.3 MPG and I have a custom gas mileage tune for my truck on the way here. I should be able to get 18-19 highway in my 6,000 lb gas truck with all these improvements.

[M RASCOE&SONS]

everyone stop crying bout gas prices if you where head of exxon and your staff says lets raise the price and make 8 billion profit this year.. no one will say no

everyone complaining needs to realiZe Owning and driving an automobile is a luxury if the gas prices are up and hurting your pocket dont drive


and on the final note if a dollar more a gallon is hurting your landscaping business you are doing something wrong and need to restructure or using way to much un necessary equipment.... the breakdown off how much more im spending on each lawn due to gas is pennies and dont charge any surchagesare you for real?we used 930 gallons last month in fuel so you tell me that shelling out almost a grand more a month from last yr would sit well with you cmon get real.your throwing salt on all the real lcos with coments like that ..when i hear stuff like this coming from a guy who just asked about pricing on 4 yds of mulch makes me want to lmao:hammerhead:

[M RASCOE&SONS]

everyone stop crying bout gas prices if you where head of exxon and your staff says lets raise the price and make 8 billion profit this year.. no one will say no

everyone complaining needs to realiZe Owning and driving an automobile is a luxury if the gas prices are up and hurting your pocket dont drive


and on the final note if a dollar more a gallon is hurting your landscaping business you are doing something wrong and need to restructure or using way to much un necessary equipment.... the breakdown off how much more im spending on each lawn due to gas is pennies and dont charge any surchagesare you for real?we used 930 gallons last month in fuel so you tell me that shelling out almost a grand more a month from last yr would sit well with you cmon get real.your throwing salt on all the real lcos with coments like that ..when i hear stuff like this coming from a guy who just asked about pricing on 4 yds of loam makes me want to lmao:hammerhead:

[Charles]

More and more countries (china, india) want more and more oil. They are competing for world oil supplies.

If I owned a oil company I would raise prices as much as I could, I sure wouldn't worry about what anybody thought about it.

Kinda like some of you LCO's, get as much as you can from your customers. Just business.

The good thing is, if they keep up with the high prices substitutes will flourish and THAT is a good thing.

Really? I guess you feel the same way about water too? Water companies should charge as much as they want because well everybody has to have water and there is a big demand for it? I put gas on par with water now. We all have to have it to run our businesses. People have to get back and forth to work etc etc. So what happens? YOu got everybody dependent on gas and then you more than double your price. It is illegal in many states during storms etc to gouge people. But our government is so top heavy with oil execs and former oil execs and dependent on their campaign contributions that they won't touch them. We are dependent on oil like we are dependent on water. Water companies have to apply to the government for rate increases.
W said in his speach that we are "addicted" to gas. Brushing it off as if we could cut back if we wanted too. WE are really dependent on gas

[JJLandscapes]

this is a forum i will never see any of you in my entire life what enjoyment would i get out of lying and looking good we arent even a big company around here we are in year 3 ( year 1 was only 20 houses, year 2 was 60 next few years are going to be maximum growth periods) most companies have 150 full service customers... lcos that do heavy construction bang out 200 houses in 4 days and do other work the other 2 days and rest on sunday, another big lco uses a suburban and chevy avalance and have 250-300 maint customers



all are 5000-6000 sq foot lots not grass range from 20-25 a house some houses in and out in 10 minutes .. some grouped up where we do 7 houses in 1:10 with 2 of us

all houses with beds get culitvated when needed all sidewalks and curbs get blown and sweeped up when necessary and every single houses gets bagged


1 32 scag wb
1 21 lawnboy residential
couple redmax 7000's only 1 in use daily
2 wackers only 1 in use daily
1 1997 gmc jimmy v6 towing a big enclosed 7x12
about 10 houses are scattered within 7-10 miles of my house
the rest are probably in 5 mile radius


we dont use contracts almost every customer returns every year even though we are young everyone loves us... I also wear stained clothes and am the dirtiest landscaper u have ever seen when i get home at night customers seem to love it thinking im busting my ass for them

This is why i always post on this forum do good work and it doesnt matter how unproffesional you look.

all this at the age of 22 and running another business on the side that does a 1/4 million + in sales a year online... no one can still believe it but i dont care

[Freddy_Kruger]

Really? I guess you feel the same way about water too? Water companies should charge as much as they want because well everybody has to have water and there is a big demand for it? I put gas on par with water now. We all have to have it to run our businesses. People have to get back and forth to work etc etc. So what happens? YOu got everybody dependent on gas and then you more than double your price. It is illegal in many states during storms etc to gouge people. But our government is so top heavy with oil execs and former oil execs and dependent on their campaign contributions that they won't touch them. We are dependent on oil like we are dependent on water. Water companies have to apply to the government for rate increases.
W said in his speach that we are "addicted" to gas. Brushing it off as if we could cut back if we wanted too. WE are really dependent on gas


CHRIST, when you got people addicted to something YOU RAISE PRICES!!! don't you know anything?

It just strikes me as funny when its your president the president that was relected that put your country into trillion dollar deficts that has saudis contributing to his families fortune who almost doubled the gas price in the last 6 years. Its YOUR fault you elected that moron.

I also wish gas prices are lower but from a business stand point, all of us have to pay the same price. Since our money comes from customers and the amounts we make depend on our competition as much as ourselves .... gas prices are irrelevent.
We still got the cheapest prices in the world, and the best living standard in the world.... when people whine sometimes it sounds like fat obese ppl crying about the shortages of cup cakes because they gourged themselves..

[ALarsh]

Then why would you run around doing hard, physical work when you don't have to?:rolleyes:

[Charles]

CHRIST, when you got people addicted to something YOU RAISE PRICES!!! don't you know anything?




Yea you do is there is nobody to stop you and if you don't have any competition. The oil companies bought out their competition.

[Freddy_Kruger]

Yea you do is there is nobody to stop you and if you don't have any competition. The oil companies bought out their competition.
I'll tell you something, canada has more oil than the saudis BUT!! its sopped up in sand. We call it the oil sands. ONce oil hit $60 a barrel it became extremely profitable to develope the alberta oil sands so I think oil prices are going to level off over the next few years because once you stop buying from the middle east (or at least slow down) you will be better off. Canada is much friendlier to the stats than the saudis and a much much better place to do business.*newcanadaflag*

[topsites]

I'll tell you something, canada has more oil than the saudis BUT!! its sopped up in sand. We call it the oil sands. ONce oil hit $60 a barrel it became extremely profitable to develope the alberta oil sands so I think oil prices are going to level off over the next few years because once you stop buying from the middle east (or at least slow down) you will be better off. Canada is much friendlier to the stats than the saudis and a much much better place to do business.*newcanadaflag*

Yes, and part of the reason the price of oil is so high is to finance the exploration of venues such as that which you just explained.
This I can tolerate, I have no problem paying whatever it takes, I can even see going solar and nuclear and again have no problem paying.

But every dang thing they can use for an excuse, it's like, ok you know, my butt itches, should we raise the price of fuel?

[one man gang]

Jesus F-ing Christ!! There's a oil man in the white house and he and his family are in bed with the Saudi's. It's a fact that is indisputable but it seems a good portion of people can't(or won't) see that. I repeat, the most powerful family in America are in the oil business. I suppose it's a crazy coincidence. But hey as long as he keeps homo's from marrying each other that's all that counts, right boys?

[TNT LawnCare Inc.]

All of Bus!%es stocks are in the oil business. Imagine that !!

[one man gang]

All of Bus!%es stocks are in the oil business. Imagine that !!

Wow, clever reply.Your right, the fact that the president of the United States is making a killing means nothing right? You see no conflict of interest here? None?

[Freddy_Kruger]

Jesus F-ing Christ!! There's a oil man in the white house and he and his family are in bed with the Saudi's. It's a fact that is indisputable but it seems a good portion of people can't(or won't) see that. I repeat, the most powerful family in America are in the oil business. I suppose it's a crazy coincidence. But hey as long as he keeps homo's from marrying each other that's all that counts, right boys?
Now this statement deserves a quote.