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OhioMowerGuy
07-18-2006, 10:59 PM
I was wondering if you need a CDL for a 2001 International 4700 55ft. bucket truck/chip truck. I work for a tree company during the day and was wondering if I should drive it or not. Im not sure of the GVW on the truck. Thanks

oldrustycars
07-18-2006, 11:02 PM
if the GVWR is 26001 or more, OR has air brakes, you need a CDL. in any case, getting a CDL isnt that hard. if you cant pass that test, you shouldnt be driving that truck to begin with.

OhioMowerGuy
07-19-2006, 12:11 AM
Ive drove the truck plenty of times. I just dont want to be driving it if im supposed to have a CDL.

Itsgottobegreen
07-19-2006, 01:18 AM
Most 4700 have a 25,500 GVW, not just don't tow anything with it. Because if you do, you need a CDL because then your over a total gross of 26,000 gvw. SO THAT MEANS NO CHIPPER!!!!!!!!!!! even if it has special equipment tags on it, instead of trailer tags.

Fordsuvparts
07-19-2006, 09:12 AM
Most 4700's are under 26,000 but i have seen some that where over, if it has airbrakes you have to have your CDL. Itsgottobegreen is 100% right NO trailers or chippers. We have an F800 with a 55' bucket and forestry chip dump, and we are considered over CDL if we pull the chipper with that truck. So if the job is not in town or within a few miles we will pull the chipper with another truck.

Rickco
07-19-2006, 08:37 PM
I worked for some years now driving buckets and had a 4700 GRVW was 34,000. If your not sure of the wieght just look at the registration.

CLARK LAWN
07-19-2006, 09:33 PM
air brakes is not a REQUIREMENT for a CDL it is based on the weight. there are alot of people driving straight trucks with air brakes that are 25,900# with no CDL and it is perfectly legal.

OhioMowerGuy
07-19-2006, 11:15 PM
thanks for the replies

Dirty Water
07-19-2006, 11:24 PM
air brakes is not a REQUIREMENT for a CDL it is based on the weight. there are alot of people driving straight trucks with air brakes that are 25,900# with no CDL and it is perfectly legal.

Not in my state.

Airbrakes require an endorsement.

CDL Restrictions

All CDLs are issued with an airbrake restriction. In order to become authorized to operate an airbrake vehicle you must pass a written and skills test. The skills test must be conducted in a vehicle equipped with airbrakes.

climber
07-20-2006, 01:41 AM
If the truck doesnt have air brakes and no chips or a chipper you will be under CDL. I know a guy who just bought a brand new 06 ford F750 with a 60' boom thats under CDL. But I know he over when he hauls his bandit 95!

Dan

J&R Landscaping
07-20-2006, 03:45 PM
At least from what I have heard from different truck dealers around me, as long as the gvw is under 26001, you don't need a CDL reguardless of air-brakes/hydrolic brakes.

Heck, I've test driven a few larger ford dump trucks and a freightliner dump truck. All but 1 of them trucks had air brakes. The GVW's varied from 25950-26000. The sales people from each of the 3 lots let me take the trucks without any problem.

xcopterdoc
07-20-2006, 07:45 PM
In all 50 states, you MUST have an airbrake endorsement on yur lic. Even if you have only a class C, regular lic. Same with hazmat.

earthmover
07-20-2006, 08:15 PM
do you need to take a driving test to get the endorsement or just a written test?

xcopterdoc
07-21-2006, 12:43 AM
Written.. and oral. You need to have a truck there with airbrakes. The examiner will do a walk around with you. He will ask you to identify the brake components and explain their function.