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DADDY D
08-09-2006, 12:19 PM
just starting to take care of my new yard and its never had anything but fert and lime on it,its full of crab grass and clover what?and when and how long before cross seeding do i need to wait looking to either spray of granular this fall is not dry here but not the best summer for gass either eastern nc thanks for any help.rude and sinde comments:dizzy:
DADDY D
08-09-2006, 12:22 PM
forgot if it helps i have a lesco close?
rburke
08-09-2006, 12:53 PM
Start by taking grammar lessons. Are you asking if you have a Lesco close by or are you telling us you have a Lesco close by?
DADDY D
08-09-2006, 01:27 PM
I have a lesco with in 20 min of my home.
UBRKIFIX
08-09-2006, 01:31 PM
Start by taking grammar lessons. Are you asking if you have a Lesco close by or are you telling us you have a Lesco close by?
I think he needs help with weeds not grammar lessons teacher rburke.its all english don't understand english?:usflag:
rburke
08-09-2006, 02:46 PM
I think he needs help with weeds not grammar lessons teacher rburke.its all english don't understand english?:usflag:
That was English? And just how did you help him UBRKIFIX?
Tscape
08-09-2006, 02:54 PM
I couldn't make heads or tails of the post either. I can overlook a few grammar and spelling mistakes, but that was nearly impossible to understand. Funny how dummies always want to come out of the woodwork when an intelligent person has the nerve to criticize someone's english.
DADDY D
08-09-2006, 03:14 PM
sorry it was hard to read i didnt mean to upset all the english teachers on here,i just need a little advise.all you had to do was nothing,just dont post if you cant help. I didnt ask for spelling lessons form anyone just help controling weeds.does all the perfect people live up north?
Tscape
08-09-2006, 03:47 PM
I'd help if I could understand you. Sheepluv, thanks for illustrating my point.
GreenUtah
08-09-2006, 03:48 PM
work on your communication skills if you expect to ask help from anyone, regardless of whether on the net or not. In the meantime, here's what you actually need to know about your crabgrass/clover issue. Both of these weeds are best controlled with preemergent herbicides, meaning, BEFORE they come out, you need to make a chemical application to control them. There are post emergent solutions, but they tend to also do damage to the existing lawn. particularly when it's hot. Seed when it gets cooler in your area, so that the seed can retain enough moisture to germinate. You can do this regardless of what steps you take to control the weeds, unless it involves putting down a fall preemeregent, which would keep and grass seed you applied after that point from germinating. I'm sure the local LESCO branch will be happy to help you with the specifics that you will need to deal with in your specific area and your situation as a licensed applicator or not.
Norm Al
08-09-2006, 07:28 PM
sheepluv?................
ThreeWide
08-09-2006, 09:19 PM
Quick answer....

Spray Drive about 14 days before you overseed. Drive will control crabgrass AND is also great on white clover. It won't harm the turf at all.
LIBERTYLANDSCAPING
08-09-2006, 11:21 PM
Hey Green Utah...you said both crabgrass & clover are treated with pre-emergants? What pre-emergant works for clover??? If there is something labled for that, I've never seen it...
GreenUtah
08-10-2006, 03:58 PM
page 6 of pendulum's label, right off the top of my head, you'll see hop clover.
from Lesco's site: http://www.lesco.com/?PageID=27&ItemNumber=069469 hit the label pdf in the upper right corner.

I think that if you check most pendimethlin based preemergents, you'll find it on the label.
thecompletehome
08-10-2006, 05:31 PM
Hop clover (black medic) is an annual and may be controlled, white clover is a perennial and will not be controlled by any pre-emergent.
DADDY D
08-10-2006, 05:43 PM
Is there anything that will control white clover besides 2,4d or trimex?this two things have worked for a while but it seem to come back?
thecompletehome
08-10-2006, 05:48 PM
I would take TurfUnlimited's advice and use the Drive 75 with some spreader sticker. This is an excellent product for both the white clover and crabgrass.
GreenUtah
08-11-2006, 01:51 PM
he didn't identify it as white clover, but even white clover, which spreads primarily by seed, can be controlled with a preemergent, isoxaben. But realistically, proper cultural practices, including fertilization, will allow turf to out compete, your best bet in the first place. another link
http://www.turf.uiuc.edu/weed_web/descriptions/whiteclover.htm