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jazak
08-13-2006, 11:24 AM
They are coming out with a 6.4L mad by internatoinal. Anyone heard much about it or know much about it?

KS_Grasscutter
08-13-2006, 11:28 AM
They are coming out with a 6.4L mad by internatoinal. Anyone heard much about it or know much about it?

I believe that would be another powerstroke, which has always been made by International. I dont know much more about it then that LOL.

lawnmaniac883
08-13-2006, 11:59 AM
Is that the twin turbo one where they have two turbos to try and pass emissions? All the powerstrokes are made by international as said above.

lawnspecialties
08-13-2006, 12:11 PM
It is a twin turbo. Ford and Dodge are introducing new diesels for '07 because of the new extremely low sulfur diesel fuel and emission requirements. With all the problems with the 6.0 the first two years, I'm sure staying away until at least '09.

Check out dieselstop.com and ford-trucks.com for a ton of opinions and news.

lawnmaniac883
08-13-2006, 01:16 PM
It isnt because of the low sulfur diesel as current engine designs will do ok with that stuff but it is because of dodge's absence of a cab n chassis truck. Dodge is introducing a new 6.7L diesel to become a player in the cab n chassis commercial truck market. Their 2500 and 3500 pickups will still be using the same 325/610 5.9L cummins diesel. I know ford is bringing up the twin turbo diesel mainly to pass emissions.

Mike33
08-13-2006, 01:59 PM
It will not be out untill 08 i wanted one it was supposed to be out for 07 but it failed something probably emissions. I am friends with my ford dealer and that is what he tolld me. I would think the problems with the 6.0 they would not put out 2 lemons back to back. I just bought an 06 with in the last month due to the fuel change, i had it posted some time ago.
Mike

PROCUT1
08-13-2006, 02:07 PM
The need to bring back the 7.3. It worked great forever and then they had to go and screw it up.

PerennialSuccess
08-13-2006, 02:10 PM
There will never be a replacement for the 7.3. The 4.5 Powerstroke is almost identical to the 6.4, just downsized. Sequential turbos to cut down on lag. The 4.5/LCF combo is really a neat truck. I believe the 6.4 is not very different from the 6.0.

lawnmaniac883
08-13-2006, 04:33 PM
Sequential turbos to cut down on emissions...VGT turbos already reduce the lag to nothing.

dwc
08-13-2006, 05:02 PM
should be interesting....Ford can't even get 1 turbo right more or less 2! I have heard it will be a small turbo in front of a large turbo to give it more boost from a dead stop.

lawnspecialties
08-13-2006, 05:44 PM
It isnt because of the low sulfur diesel as current engine designs will do ok with that stuff but it is because of dodge's absence of a cab n chassis truck. Dodge is introducing a new 6.7L diesel to become a player in the cab n chassis commercial truck market. Their 2500 and 3500 pickups will still be using the same 325/610 5.9L cummins diesel. I know ford is bringing up the twin turbo diesel mainly to pass emissions.

You are correct about the low sulfur diesel working in the 5.9. But the 5.9 was not designed to run with the new emission requirements. Basically, when the 5.9's "run out", they'll be nothing left but 6.7's.

Either way, it "appears" both are having to do away with two great engines. My opinion as to "why" belongs in the "off-topic" forum so I won't even get started.:mad:

lawnmaniac883
08-13-2006, 05:52 PM
You are correct about the low sulfur diesel working in the 5.9. But the 5.9 was not designed to run with the new emission requirements. Basically, when the 5.9's "run out", they'll be nothing left but 6.7's.

Either way, it "appears" both are having to do away with two great engines. My opinion as to "why" belongs in the "off-topic" forum so I won't even get started.:mad:


Jeez, where did you hear that from???

The 5.9 will be used along with the 6.7 kinda like fords 6.0 and 7.3 were ya know?

The 5.9 is still in production for the 07 model year...