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qualitylawnmanagement
08-26-2006, 12:26 AM
2000 Ford F-350 Lariat super cab long bed 4x4 7.3 auto:
113,953 miles
AM/FM Compact Disc Playr
4x4 shift on the floor
goose neck mounting plate
rhino liner
$20,969

Is this a good price? Is the 7.3 a good motor? Does is accelerate as quick as the 6.0? I haul a 18ft trailer with 2 Dixie choppers and a walk-behind, and want to atleast get above 12mpg. Can it be done? I am getting 5 to 6 mile a gallon hauling my rig around. I just don't like the tan two tone on it lol. I love the truck but seems kinda long cause I plan to plow and have a couple of tight drives.

or there is a 2003 Ford F-350 XLT regular 4x4 Diesel auto
47,066 miles
AM/FM Compact Disc Playr
4x4 shift on the floor
hole for the goose neck but no mounting plate
rhino liner
$25,995

THEGOLDPRO
08-26-2006, 12:28 AM
get the diesel, you wont regret it.

qualitylawnmanagement
08-26-2006, 12:33 AM
picture of the 2000 ford f-350

stuffdeer
08-26-2006, 12:41 AM
How much are you gonna be asking for your Current truck when it goes up for sale?

qualitylawnmanagement
08-26-2006, 12:48 AM
and then here is the 2003 ford f-350

THEGOLDPRO
08-26-2006, 12:52 AM
yeah the diesel for sure much better looking truck.

Scag48
08-26-2006, 12:54 AM
That's a terrible price on the 2000, I'd give them $16,000 at best. My dad bought his '99, basically the same truck except it isn't Lariat with 108K miles in '03 for $21,000 with a bedliner, $200 custom seatcovers, and a couple extras. The '03 is a much better deal but even that price is a little high, probably worth about $23K or so.

As for the 7.3, great motor, WAY better than the 6.0 I don't care what ANYBODY says. We've had 2 of them, absolutely bombproof. Like I said my old man bought his F350 in '03 with 108K, it has 160K on it right now. We did replace a tranny and torque converter at 155K miles (original), new tires, new shocks, that's it. We haven't had to put anything into that truck except for general maintenance, it's been a hell of a workhorse. I'd suggest buying one, best truck you'll ever own.

qualitylawnmanagement
08-26-2006, 12:58 AM
How much are you gonna be asking for your Current truck when it goes up for sale?

I really don't know if I want to put it up for sale cause I would have to sit around waiting for it to sell I am thinking about just trading it in. But there is 55% chance I am going to sell it. My truck retails for about $8,700 but don't have a set price yet need to see if I can get my new truck before selling. The truck I have now might come with a $850.00 DMI hitch would comes in great if you hook and unhook trailer each day slides out 2 feet and moves a foot to the left or a right with a pull of handle. It's a great truck just, has more then enough power, pulls my 18ft trailer loaded without a problem. When I was hauling my 12ft and one Dixie chopper and a walk-behind I was getting 9 to 10mpg.

qualitylawnmanagement
08-26-2006, 01:06 AM
[QUOTE=Scag48]That's a terrible price on the 2000, I'd give them $16,000 at best. My dad bought his '99, basically the same truck except it isn't Lariat with 108K miles in '03 for $21,000 with a bedliner, $200 custom seatcovers, and a couple extras. The '03 is a much better deal but even that price is a little high, probably worth about $23K or so.

I am going to see if I can talk them down on there prices. Seems to around here Diesel truck run alot more then everywhere else. There have been a couple dozen trucks around here with 150,000-200,000 mile range with a price tag of $17,000 to $20,000. I do like the white cause it gives me more cab room, but then again the black regular cab is nice cause it would be a great at plowing. I don't think any of these two truck would have a problem hanging a fisher 8.5 Xtreme vee on them:weightlifter: .

rfed32
08-26-2006, 01:27 AM
diesel i know someone who had the gas and he got 9mpg on avg between city and highway not towing a trailer...if you have the equipt. to tow with something that big then go for the deisel it will be worth it in the long run

Scag48
08-26-2006, 01:33 AM
Well, if prices in your area are high for diesel, just do your homework then and see if you can figure out what it's worth in your area. I know out here that 2000 would be $16K, but like you say if they're more, well hey then you have a little research to do at figuring your market. The 2000 is a nice looking truck, no doubt about that, just get the price to your liking.

MLawns
08-26-2006, 04:07 AM
You'll love the 7.3 for power, they're a horse. Be diligent with your daily pre-trips, there's a lot of $ involved. They're not a cheap fix, heavier truck, diesel engine.

RedWingsDet
08-26-2006, 11:28 PM
I like the 2003 the best

jazak
08-27-2006, 10:10 AM
I'd get the 03 and give them $22K cash.

grass_cuttin_fool
08-27-2006, 11:06 AM
For me it would be simple.........2003 truck....3 years newer....less than 1/2 the miles of the 2000 and only 5k more

wayne

olderthandirt
08-27-2006, 11:51 AM
I know both trucks are over priced.
Keep looking cause the diesels are going cheap just a little east of you. :laugh:
They have NEW 2005 CC dually XLTs listed in this morning paper for under $31,000 Those trucks are now 2 yrs old and never sold so I know that you can get one cheaper than the two you posted

jazak
08-27-2006, 11:53 AM
Ditto that^^^^^ They have in todays paper a 06 F-350 4x4 diesel 8' pickup bed for 30,990 with 0% and 0 down.

PROCUT1
08-27-2006, 03:19 PM
Ditto that^^^^^ They have in todays paper a 06 F-350 4x4 diesel 8' pickup bed for 30,990 with 0% and 0 down.


Wheres that at?

Dirty Water
08-27-2006, 04:30 PM
Why would anyone pay over twenty grand for any truck that already has 100 thousand miles on it?

jazak
08-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Wheres that at?

Why are you coming dowm here to buy?!?

Its at a dealer near me they've advertised it twice and I called up on it and had no reply so I think its been sold but the sales guy said they're getting more in.

BTW 0down and 0% for 72 months is being offered by every ford dealership. If they aren't offering itby you then call up ford direct and let them know because everyone is supposed to be offering it.

Dstosh
08-27-2006, 05:44 PM
In would stay away from a 03 6 Liter. I dont know if i would fork over that kind of cash for the other one either. Keep Looking, I like to use the site getauto.com. Dont be afraid to drive a little to get the truck.

ALarsh
08-27-2006, 05:55 PM
I can't believe you would be willing to pay those prices. I bought a 2004 Chevy 2500HD 6.0 Gas, 15,000 miles, $22,900.

http://www.lenzauto.com/index.shtml

MysticLandscape
08-27-2006, 06:37 PM
I say go with the 03. I just picked up my 06, diesel and a 8.5 ft fisher V for 39 and its loaded.

Howie's Lawn Care
08-27-2006, 07:53 PM
I can't believe you would be willing to pay those prices. I bought a 2004 Chevy 2500HD 6.0 Gas, 15,000 miles, $22,900.

http://www.lenzauto.com/index.shtml
A lot here in town has a 2005 White GMC Sierra 2500 4X4 6.0L with 16,??? miles, automatic for $19,500.00. Doesn't that sound like a nice deal?

hickslawns
08-27-2006, 10:57 PM
How many miles per year are you driving? Diesel is more to purchase than gas. If your truck is doing the job but getting poor mileage, different truck is not necessarily the answer. what you are doing is spending mega-money on a truck, then spending more money on fuel to get 4 mpg better than your gasser? I don't think you are making a business decision. I think you are making an "I want" decision. Something else to keep in mind is with a Fisher X-blade, the closest dealer I am aware of is in Toledo. What about when the thing breaks in the middle of the night and you have to go to school in the morning? Keep your truck until you graduate high school. This would be your best business decision. Or do what you want. I am just trying to help you look at this from a profitability standpoint.

ALarsh
08-27-2006, 11:23 PM
A lot here in town has a 2005 White GMC Sierra 2500 4X4 6.0L with 16,??? miles, automatic for $19,500.00. Doesn't that sound like a nice deal?
Yeah dude. Go snatch it up. Is it a HD? Regular cab? Go get approved for a loan! Sell the ranger

qualitylawnmanagement
08-28-2006, 06:20 PM
How many miles per year are you driving? Diesel is more to purchase than gas. If your truck is doing the job but getting poor mileage, different truck is not necessarily the answer. what you are doing is spending mega-money on a truck, then spending more money on fuel to get 4 mpg better than your gasser? I don't think you are making a business decision. I think you are making an "I want" decision. Something else to keep in mind is with a Fisher X-blade, the closest dealer I am aware of is in Toledo. What about when the thing breaks in the middle of the night and you have to go to school in the morning? Keep your truck until you graduate high school. This would be your best business decision. Or do what you want. I am just trying to help you look at this from a profitability standpoint.

I had 123,500 in march and now I had 135,500 on the truck now. I am beginning to start hauling more heavy equipment. I think I am going to just hold off till after the winter and buy a new F-350 with a diesel in the spring. The closest place around here for fisher is in Greenville Ohio. And as far as profitability I just paid this truck and I am going to get some more money for the plow in the next month or so, and only have one payment left which is the 2007 Dixie chopper I got a couple of weeks ago which will be paid for in cash by the end of the fall. But thanks Phil, And are you enjoying this rain?

Travel'n Trees
08-28-2006, 06:36 PM
Had very expensive problems with 6.0, and 7.3 diesels FORD doesn't back their products well either. They cut alot of corner that is why they are known to have the number 1 (6.0)and number 2 (7.3) tsd's (service problems in history). Spend a little more and get a GM, or DODGE.

dvmcmrhp52
08-28-2006, 06:46 PM
Find a better deal than the ones you've posted because they're no deal at all.

Our last truck was a new '05 Dodge 2500 4x4 with the hemi for $23,000.
There are still plenty of good deals on trucks out there and will be even more so in a couple of months.

fiveoboy01
08-28-2006, 09:16 PM
Had very expensive problems with 6.0, and 7.3 diesels FORD doesn't back their products well either. They cut alot of corner that is why they are known to have the number 1 (6.0)and number 2 (7.3) tsd's (service problems in history). Spend a little more and get a GM, or DODGE.

You want to provide a link to back up that claim?

When it comes to light diesel pick ups,

The Dogde has the best motor, hands down.

The Chevy has the best trans, hands down.

The Ford is the best built truck, hands down(I'd suppose Ford and Chevy are close in this department).

Take your pick.

And yes, 20K is WAY WAY too much for that 2000 Diesel. Take a look on ebay and see what a truck of that year and that many miles is going for. It's definitely less than that.

Travel'n Trees
08-29-2006, 01:56 AM
Where you been it is on all the diesel sites, different consumer sites, and government sites. Ford best built? Open it up and look at how many corners have been cut.

Team-Green L&L
08-29-2006, 03:25 AM
The main problem is you are looking at a Ford. If you want true pin your head to the headrest power you have got to go with the Chevy Duramax w/ the Allison automatic. The turbo version has 360 HP @ 1,500 RPM. If you get the chip for it you can easily push 450+ horse out of these trucks and have every day driver dependability. The Allison is a bullet proof transmission and will pull the tongue off of any trailer you hook to. I have first hand experience. But don't take my word for it, I am just a Chevy fan.
The next best (probably equal but no where nearly as quiet) motor out there is the Cummins. The only thing about Dodge is their transmissions are junk. As far as motor wise you can't hardly beat a Cummins turbo deisal.

Travel'n Trees
08-29-2006, 09:29 AM
I noticed 50boy doesn't even own one! He has a 1997 f-150. Look at the problems that particular truck had, the list is long and serious. I noticed how many of the seious 5.0's now have chevy's now what is up with that.

jazak
08-29-2006, 09:41 AM
TT your a pian in the ass! ALL YOU DO ON HERE IS BASH THIS AND THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO DAY LEAVE!!!!!:hammerhead: :dizzy: :hammerhead: I've had a couple of 7.3Ls great trucks, have had a 6.0 another great truck. A bunch of my buddies have 6.0s & 7.3s NO PROBLEMS. So either start using your brain or shut the f@ck up!!

rb_in_va
08-29-2006, 10:23 AM
For me it would be simple.........2003 truck....3 years newer....less than 1/2 the miles of the 2000 and only 5k more

wayne

For me it's simple too. Diesel (better mileage and longer lasting), super cab for $5k less it's a no-brainer. 113k miles on a diesel is nothing. It's just breaking in!

M&M Services
08-29-2006, 12:33 PM
All I can say is the 03 is a nice looking truck, decently priced, and would be a total work horse for many years to come...All these Ford bashers make me laugh....Its funny how the best selling truck for 20+ years is getting bashed like crazy...A guy I picked up a plow from a month ago traded is 06 Duramax in on a Ford because it kept having problems...A friend of mine who owns an excavating company got rid of all of his dodges due to tranny issues and bought all FORDS...No problems yet...I have seen 03 6.0s with 135k on them with only general maintenance..my point here is all the manufacturers have problems...it comes down to personal preference..in my opinion Ford is the best on the market...You can't go wrong with a Ford keep us updated...

Travel'n Trees
08-29-2006, 01:41 PM
I've had ford 6.0 drive less than 250 miles and injector pump out 2 days later 250 more miles motor gone. Ford says come back pick it up in 8 weeks??? This was a new truck! The 7.3 they said I hauled top soil, rock, mulch, sand salt, or coal. So they would have to void my warranty, a f-550, 4x4, crew cab, xlt, dump truck was not built for this!

M&M Services
08-29-2006, 02:12 PM
HAHAHHA T&T you are a funny man...seems to me some one was blowing smoke up your a$$ at the dealership probably because you are easy to be taken advantage of..ever think of that? :laugh: And why is it that you always have to be bad mouthing stuff? If you don't have anything worth reading to say how about you keep it to your self? Also I know of a 550 that has pulled a bobcat trailer its whole life with a 6.0, hauled concrete in the back, steel, dirt, gravel, sand...went into ford for a rough idle,.They WARRANTIED it with no problem! heck it pulled in to the dealership pulling the bobcat...and was done that day...thats service....
Once again good luck on the purchase keep us posted....We have ran Fords our entire life they are excellent trucks....

ALarsh
08-29-2006, 02:31 PM
There is no reason for FORD to take advantage of ANYBODY. It really shows their off their ethics.

M&M Services
08-29-2006, 02:32 PM
There are shady dealers out there...I am not saying they took advantage of it mainly just saying it could happen......I have never encountered a 550 work truck not being warrantied for hauling stuff...thats what they do work!..that was the angle of my post...calling his B.S!

jazak
08-29-2006, 02:49 PM
I've had ford 6.0 drive less than 250 miles and injector pump out 2 days later 250 more miles motor gone. Ford says come back pick it up in 8 weeks??? This was a new truck! The 7.3 they said I hauled top soil, rock, mulch, sand salt, or coal. So they would have to void my warranty, a f-550, 4x4, crew cab, xlt, dump truck was not built for this!

Dude quit lying I've seen your posts on other forums and you couldn't back it up. Give it a break.

M&M Services
08-29-2006, 02:51 PM
I agree with you jazak....hes just full of b.s.!

Scag48
08-29-2006, 04:54 PM
What a loon, void warranty because you hauled dirt in an F550 dump? Are you on acid? Or maybe they really did try to void your warranty and you let them walk all over you. Either way, you're an idiot.

fiveoboy01
08-29-2006, 05:14 PM
I noticed 50boy doesn't even own one! He has a 1997 f-150. Look at the problems that particular truck had, the list is long and serious. I noticed how many of the seious 5.0's now have chevy's now what is up with that.

YOU are a maroon.

I've got 116K on my truck. Parts replaced? 4 tires, front brakes, and one idler pulley, and one shifter interlock solenoid. Did the recall for the tie rod ends, and the cruise/brake switch. That's it.

And I'm buying an '06 F250 on Thursday. So go ahead and bash me some more, I could care less.

twj721
08-29-2006, 11:49 PM
the 7.3 to my way of thinking is a hell of a better motor than the 6.0 will ever be the 6.0 has cost Ford a bunch of money in warrranty claims and buy backs If I had it to do over again I would keep my 99 F 250 7.3 PS It got better fuel mileage than the 04 F250 6.0 PS has even thought of when I first got the 04 It had about 39,000 miles on it, when we started using it to haul our mowers and our GN trailer we were averaging about 9.64 MPG BOY was I upset the 99 doing the same thing was averaging about 12-14 MPG Talk them down on the price of the 2000 I think you will be a Happy Ford truck owner then but if you buy the 2003 be perpared for EGR problems, Turbo problems, and headgasket problems just to name a few and get this when they replace the head gaskets they lift the cab off the truck frame and suspend it in the air . Good luck and happy truck hunting You might even want to check out the Dodges think they still have employee pricing till the end of the month . TWJ

Travel'n Trees
08-30-2006, 02:31 AM
No this has been told to me by Ford corp, and dealers in these towns where repairs were made Blue Springs,Missouri, Brookhaven, Ms., New Oreans La., Erie Pa., Crystal Springs, Ms, Arnold, Mo, Belton, Mo, North Kansas City, Mo. Good thing I only drove the truck 3000 miles. The air filter box is poorly designed and under boost colaspes, because it has no center support, they probably saved a quarter in production cost, The service bulletin says You can buy a severe duty one designed, by donaldson for ford, and fix it but they voids your warranty too.

Travel'n Trees
08-30-2006, 02:46 AM
Also I'm not a maroon, moron! But seriously I never said there was a bunch of recalls on your truck, the only one I know of was the clear coat on the paint, on the black ones, but that recall was huge, and they gave you a 8 week turn around with no rental. The 4.6 motors that came from Mexico, with all their problems, oil pumps, main bearings, and poor intake design, but put a throttle body spacer on huge gains, front a- arms on slides getting out of adjustment all the time, dealer wanted to weld in place to stop tire wear problem, Just never hit a pothole again you will be OK! And the extra cab frames bending and doors not opening properly at factory parking lot before delivery, and after purchase(2006 F-150 too). Did you you replace those plastic front bearings (around 30k when play is noticable), did you spend the $.50 at Orielly's and get metal.

stroker51
08-30-2006, 05:31 PM
Travel'n'Trees, face it, you are WAY outnumbered here. My 96 is pushin 200K, I was third owner and know for a fact that there has been 1 water pump replaced at 178k, alternator around 140, cam sensor at 154, second cam sensor at 173, several sets of tires, and other general maintenance stuff. No matter what you say or your bad experiences with fords, the 7.3L PSD is one helluva engine. I won't even begin to rattle off all the people i know or work with who have 250+K on them, nothing other than the same stuff i mentioned being replaced, and several of these trucks run either oil field duty or farm/ranch duty in western kansas. What we put our trucks through don't even compare to the lease roads, pasture, lack of road, etc. that those trucks see everyday for 200K+. I personally would not buy a pre-05 6.0, making sure it is a true 05 engine. $20k is a little high i think for that truck, esp. with it being a single wheel 1 ton. Keep lookin, there are good deals to be had on the 7.3 trucks, and don't let that 100K mile mark scare you at all. I am gettin ready to have a party for mine at 200K! I plan on riding it well over 300K. Proper maintenance is the key. Good luck in the search, you won't regret getting a diesel.

PGold
08-30-2006, 06:31 PM
I have a friend that has ragged out his 99 powerstroke pulling dump trailers, dozers, and bobcats. It has 260,000 miles. He has put the last 80,000 on it himself and the only problem that he has had was a new fuel pump. After hurricane ivan hit, people hauling dump trailers had a few problems with the steering and transmissions on the older f250's. Overall, I would put the 7.3 at the top of the list when it comes to engines.

fiveoboy01
08-30-2006, 06:56 PM
Also I'm not a maroon, moron!

Yeah, you are.

But seriously I never said there was a bunch of recalls on your truck

Apparently you can't read your own posts. Here, this is what you said:

He has a 1997 f-150. Look at the problems that particular truck had, the list is long and serious.

The 4.6 motors that came from Mexico, with all their problems, oil pumps, main bearings, and poor intake design, but put a throttle body spacer on huge gains

Like I said, my 4.6 has been trouble free for 117K miles. And I've NEVER seen any engine get "huge" gains from a throttle body spacer.

Did you you replace those plastic front bearings (around 30k when play is noticable), did you spend the $.50 at Orielly's and get metal.

The CAGE is plastic. The CAGE doesn't carry the load, the rollers do.

Travel'n Trees
08-30-2006, 08:12 PM
Nice reply 5.0 , read it, maybe ask someone to explain to you. And no ford has me filed with attorney generals office against them. They have cost me to much money this time. And I let people know how ford, has treated me and I have had 21 FORD's, and since 1997, they have all had issues. Like the overrated Cobras, the lightnings. I hope the f-150 in claycomo plant stays shut down, until FORD closes their doors,forever. I won't lie, but I will tell everything I know factual I am careful not to push the truth. I have caught my ford reps in numerous lies, I don't stoop to there level. Sorry if the truth hurts. But I have a hard time beleiving that my 550 drove 1000 miles with a rod hanging out the side of a block pulling a skid loader 400 miles of the way, at which point I took my wifes escalade on 23's and pulled it the rest of the way home a lot faster. But I am sure you will agree with ford about the rod. I had the motor pulled out later it must of went back in and closed up the block where it came out.

PGold
08-30-2006, 08:31 PM
No offense... but if you had 21 fords with problems either you workers must be absolute morons, or they don't care about your business. And if you had 21 fords with problems, why the heck did you keep buying them.

PGold
08-30-2006, 08:34 PM
I couldn't understand your sentence about the attorney general's office... please clarify. Why is the attorney general's office involved?

Travel'n Trees
08-30-2006, 11:22 PM
I have only had 6 since 1997. It had been 3 or4 years since the last before the 550. I couldn't find a crew cab, xlt equiv duramax for a quote reasonable price. They investigate these claims and follow through for consumers.

PGold
09-01-2006, 12:31 AM
That clears things up. I would definitely go for the black one when it comes to looks. I like my single cab.

PGold
09-01-2006, 12:33 AM
I don't get what people were saying with "go for the diesel" They are both diesel.

M&M Services
09-01-2006, 11:54 AM
Over rated Mustang which if i am not mistaken caused GM's balls to shrivel up and stop production on the Camaro and Firebird because the Mustang out sold them COMBINED 3to1....HAHAHA The lighting is a popular truck...Ford did the right thing with this unlike the 55k SRT-10...what a rip off... T&T seems as though you are just full us BS! Maybe you didnt take care of your Fords....We have had no problems with any of ours....And they have been worked pretty much everyday of their life....And Ford close down completly will never happen...thye have the best selling pickups in the market for over 20 years...seems as though PLENTY of people are happy with them....

M&M Services
09-01-2006, 12:14 PM
:drinkup: The Cobra was not overrated in 03/04...Ford did what was asked by the customer to the car which was to make one hell of a performer for 34k...Your wifes Escalade must be one hell of a ride to pull that trailer with a skid loader...I would have loved to have seen that :laugh: Obviously there are more Ford supporters here...and to those guys-:drinkup: