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tthomass
09-02-2006, 04:55 PM
Looked at one today but wasn't able to do a test drive for being short on time. Thought I'd post up and see who has one and how they like it? I've driv'n one with a 8.1L gas for a while as it was my truck at a previous company that I once worked for. My plans are to purchase one with a 14' dump on it this fall or spring. The 0% is nice.

Earth and Turf
09-02-2006, 05:23 PM
I work parttime for a Excavating Co. I am also a Firefighter. They have a Chevy 5500 with the Duramax and the Allison auto. Great truck it has a 12' dump we pull a 25' 10 ton tag with a 287 and sometimes a mini ex. It handles it extremly well. it will haul about 10 ton of sand or stone. We also have 2 Kenworth T-800 dumps and a 20 ton tag for 1 of them. The little dump will pull the D-4 with no problem. It is too much weight with the D-4 and the 287 together on the little trailer but no problem with the bigger one. Are you going to pull equipment or just haul material?

jazak
09-02-2006, 05:54 PM
Dads buddy just bought 3 5500s along with 3 3500s all dumps. Ask it and I'll get answers. I'm gonna get some pics up soon of his whole outfit.

tthomass
09-02-2006, 08:28 PM
Mostly material but I'm buying equipment left and right............5500 and 4500......can one of you break down some differences? Is it just GW?

There's a 4500 DMAX sitting on the Chevy lot here.........they don't sell very fast here I don't think so maybe it will sit long enough until I'm ready to purchase that I can get them to come down to my price haha......its a flatbed 14' dump, just needs some sides and rear doors

abuckeye
09-02-2006, 08:56 PM
I bought a 2500HD this spring. It has a ton of power. The company I bought it from has many 2500's and up, mostly larger trucks. They swear by the Duramax. They probably have 10 to 15 of them in their fleet.

tthomass
09-02-2006, 09:01 PM
I currently have a '02 Chevy 2500HD, 6.0L and 4.10 rear..............ext cab and 8' bed 4x4.

It doesn't usually move without a 10,000GW dump behind it (2500 empty). Does just fine but I want/need an actual dump and more than a 3500 will handle for making life easier. I just got a 16' enclosed trailer so I guess the idea is to get maintenance going with it and hire a couple guys.

I don't want to grow too fast but I'm young and have better things to do then drink 7 nights a week.

tthomass
09-02-2006, 09:04 PM
www for buying these size trucks? I've found a couple but looking for more. I don't know why autotrader doesn't have them.

jazak
09-02-2006, 09:17 PM
Here you go and like a said if you want to ask anything shoot I'll just ask dad's buddy.

http://www.truckpaper.com/listings/forsale/list.asp?bcatid=27&ParentCategoryID=208&catid=253&man=GMC&mdl=TOPKICK+C5500&guid=B6CE3CD3C2D84C00B056AE7C1EABD2DF

Bigred350
09-02-2006, 09:19 PM
go to trucktraderonline.com or bigtrucktrader.com

tthomass
09-02-2006, 09:19 PM
thanks a lot, I don't know of any cons so just seeing what everyone's opinions are about them..........def not going Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily)

but if you could share on 5500 vs 4500 I'm all ears..........or anything really

RedWingsDet
09-02-2006, 11:17 PM
Theres a guy by me selling his 2005 4500 dmax with a 12ft bed and salter. PTO. Only has 3,000 miles, hes asking 52k. if you want I can get you his number

J&R Landscaping
09-02-2006, 11:40 PM
The 4500 & 5500's are nice trucks. I like the higher profile and the aggressive stance they have not to mention the huge mirrows. They only thing I don't like is how GM packs the dmax under the hood with a shoe horn and some greasy lube. I woul;d hate to have a belt come off or have to replace a thermostat or something. It surelly won't be fun.

tthomass
09-02-2006, 11:59 PM
Theres a guy by me selling his 2005 4500 dmax with a 12ft bed and salter. PTO. Only has 3,000 miles, hes asking 52k. if you want I can get you his number

Thanks for looking out but that is way away from me........I'm VA

mrusk
09-03-2006, 09:56 AM
TThomas, seriously reconsider dropping all that coin on a new truck in that size.

Next yea ri am planning on buying a used international 4700 with a 25999 gvw. I'm looking cab and chasiss or box truck with 100-150k miles. I'm going to put a 2 foot tool box behind the cab and put on a 12 ft flatbed dump with removalable sides. For no more than 30k i should have an awesome truck that will last longer than any 4500 or 5500 for 15-20k less.

Matt

Qualey
09-03-2006, 10:02 AM
I think we've had them all at one time or another and what I feel about the 4500/5500, F450/F550 is that they are too expensive, too thirsty (Especially the Dmax in a truck that size), and too small. We are currently running CDL Topkicks (old and cheap and rugged) and non-CDL Freightliners. Big GVW, easy to drive, real truck motors.

The 4500,450s are pretty and comfortable but how much is that going to pay you?

muddstopper
09-03-2006, 10:26 AM
I have the 4500 Duramax with the allison. I like it a lot. Only problems I have had with it is mirror replacement. I have already broken two,(dont ask) and they are about $365 each. My truck is tagged at 18000 but is seldon loaded that heavy except on site. I have a 600 gal finn hydroseeder mounted on the back of a 12 ft bed. I can hual the seeder loaded and a ton of mulch before running out of bed space. Truck handles that weight just fine.

The difference between the 4500 and the 5500 is the weight rating as well as the allison transmission. The 5500 has a heavier verson of the Allison while the 4500 has the same tranny as the 2500 and 3500 series. I have had my truck for 1 year and havent had any problems other than breaking mirrors.

I dont like the mirrors on the truck, they stick out to far, :sleeping:

muddstopper
09-03-2006, 10:40 AM
I dont know the whole story on the $52000 4500 truck, but in my area that is highway robbery. I bought my 4500 cab and chassis for $30,000, The Flatbed cost me another $1500. That leaves almost $20 grand to fancy the truck up. Something doesnt add up on the truck in Detroit.

jazak
09-03-2006, 10:59 AM
I dont know the whole story on the $52000 4500 truck, but in my area that is highway robbery. I bought my 4500 cab and chassis for $30,000, The Flatbed cost me another $1500. That leaves almost $20 grand to fancy the truck up. Something doesnt add up on the truck in Detroit.


^^^^^Yours must have been a GAS and NOT 4x4^^^^^. Here cab & chassis diesel, 4x4 goes for $40K another $2K-$10K depending on what body you put on, ext. The guy is still asking ALOT I'd only give him $45K. The biggest difference between both truck is like muddstopper said was the drivetrain and weight ratings.

muddstopper
09-03-2006, 02:09 PM
Mine is a diesel duramax, but no, it is not a 4x4. 4wd does drive the cost up a bunch, but not $20 grand. If the guy buying could use the saltbox and such then $45g might be a decent price, but I am pretty sure for $45G's I can get a new 4x4 duramax with allison and a flat bed for less than $45,000. Of course I havent checked the prices since buying mine one year ago, and could very well be wrong. Also the guy that said the truck was for sale didnt mention 4x4 so I assumed it wasnt.

My truck only has 7000 miles on it and I will take $45000 for it and the hydroseeder, and might even consider delivery. ( dont nobody call trying to ghew me down because I dont really want to sell it, but money talks!)

Boycea
09-03-2006, 06:29 PM
Uniscaper is running a few of them, here is a link to a previous post on them, you may want to pm him

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=118066

cet
09-03-2006, 08:47 PM
The truck in Detroit has a PTO salter. That has to be close to $8,000 and it has to have a dump box not flat deck. That truck new in Canada (my area) is close to $65,000($58,500 US $). I to would think $52,000 is high for used.

Albemarle Lawn
09-03-2006, 10:43 PM
Get the 5500 with the 22,000 lb GVW option.

I have a 5500 with the 22,000 gross option. It's a crew cab with an enclosed landscape body, similar to "Super Lawn Trucks."

Empty it weighs 15,000. So I can only haul 7,000 lbs, and that's with the 22,000 gross. I would hate to see the hauling capacity with a 4500 and only 17,000 gross or a 5500 with only 19,000 gross.

Keep in mind if you get 4x4 that hurts in weight penalty, too, so favor the 5500.

And don't get the 4500 you will get a pickup-truck size allison 1000. You'll smoke that turd in a year of heavy use.

And as someone mentioned, yes, it is thirsty. My Duramax auto is lucky to see 10 MPG on the highway, typical mileage for me is 6-8 MPG.

Ken

tthomass
09-05-2006, 11:32 PM
my use will be mostly debris/brush, mulch, plants......sometimes stone/pavers etc

found one new, diesel with 14' flat bed dump for $39,000. Plus GM will give me $900 towards a bed/tool boxes that it doesn't have. Also I think it was around 3% interest with the promo's they have go'n...............0% doesn't apply to these trucks.