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jim163
09-05-2006, 08:40 PM
I change my blades just about every day. The way I do it is I put the ramp gate to my trailer down and drive the mower half on the gate so that either one of the front wheels is in the air and the back 2 stay on the ground. Looking for somthing different. Anyone use car ramps? thinkin about getting a pair but the only ones ive seen for sale are a foot tall or so - dont think thats high enough. No way to hang a chainfall or that would be my answer. Any suggestions?

lazer 46
09-05-2006, 08:46 PM
I bought a Jungle Jack this year. I should have bought it a long time ago. Lifts the mowers with ease. Plenty of room under to change blades.

Tadams
09-05-2006, 09:01 PM
jungle jack here

FinalCut05
09-05-2006, 09:43 PM
I used to use car ramps and they worked real good for a while. The only problem I had was driving up them, most of the time they would push back cause the front tires wouldn't grab. Now I use just a floor jack, seems to be workin good but putting the center blade back on can be a pain, cause the jack is in the way. Hope this helps.

wriken
09-05-2006, 09:44 PM
I use chain falls

WildWest
09-05-2006, 09:52 PM
I change my blades just about every day. The way I do it is I put the ramp gate to my trailer down and drive the mower half on the gate so that either one of the front wheels is in the air and the back 2 stay on the ground.


Been there, done that.

I use a floor jack and an impact wrench. Takes 5 min. to swap blades out now.
12V impact wrench (240 ft. lbs.) that hooks up to a car battery for changes in the field if need be.

ed2hess
09-05-2006, 10:35 PM
So what problem are you having using the trailer ramp, we do all of ours that way for many years?

ProLawns
09-05-2006, 10:39 PM
Chain fall and air wrench.

KyTurf
09-05-2006, 11:31 PM
Jungle Jack The Way To Go Had Mine For Over 10 Yrs.

Pietro
09-05-2006, 11:49 PM
I just use my big ass 3.5 ton jack.

Jason Rose
09-05-2006, 11:51 PM
Trailer gate is fine for those who can have their trailer right there next to the shop door and don't mind doing 2 blades, then moving the mower to the other side to get the 3rd blade...

I use a floor jack for mine. I had a jungle jack, which was GREAT, but i have so little garage floor space i let it go with an exmark Z I sold.

dcgreenspro
09-05-2006, 11:52 PM
deadlift the front end, have someone slide jack stands underneath. Would buy the jungle jack if i had the extra coin.

grass-scapes
09-06-2006, 12:24 AM
Over the years, I have honed my ability to levitate objects with my mind. I concentrate on lifting the mower while my helper changes the blades. Right now I am looking for a new helper since the "bikini accident".


Seriously....I bought a jungle jack last year......I love it.

Green-Pro
09-06-2006, 12:39 AM
Jungle Jack to lift, Jack Stands for insurance.

cantoo
09-06-2006, 12:47 AM
Try something like this mounted to your trailer. Swival crane $150.00
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/NTELargeImageView?rfno=74569&storeId=6970

GLC51
09-06-2006, 01:56 AM
Farmer's jack, inexpensive $40 or so. Put a bar under the castor arms. Plus you can store it on the trailer as it takes up practically no space about 8x8 inches.

beautifullawns
09-06-2006, 08:15 AM
just use a samll basic floor jack. Cheap, easy and gets the job done.

Tharrell
09-06-2006, 08:26 AM
Wouldn't a small, swing bulldog jack mounted up front be sweet for this?

Blessed 1
09-06-2006, 11:58 AM
You guys that are using the trailer gates if you approach the tailgate from the side and turn hard catching the left wheel If aprroaching from the r/h side of the trailer on the ramp and as you turn let the 1 wheel go up the trailer until the fork rest on the trailer side you can get to all three blades easily. Sort of a hook and turn method.

noseha
09-06-2006, 12:48 PM
T.s.c. Bumper Jack, Floor Jacks

Distorted
09-07-2006, 10:02 AM
Lift with front-end loader on my tractor, and jack-stands for safety.

Blessed 1
09-07-2006, 02:25 PM
I change blades on 2 60" Exmarks in 12 Minutes or less by using my tailgate on my 16ft trailer and a 1/2" electric inpact gun (Harbor Freight $59.00) and Xantrex Portable Power unit ($110-$229 depending on watts). I had considered a Jungle Jack but at the Expo this past year I tried and could not get my Impact under the blades.:weightlifter:

jim163
09-07-2006, 09:15 PM
I change blades on 2 60" Exmarks in 12 Minutes or less by using my tailgate on my 16ft trailer and a 1/2" electric inpact gun (Harbor Freight $59.00) and Xantrex Portable Power unit ($110-$229 depending on watts). I had considered a Jungle Jack but at the Expo this past year I tried and could not get my Impact under the blades.:weightlifter:
funny you say that I just got my $59 harbor freight special the other day and used it today. works great.

green_with_envy
09-07-2006, 10:19 PM
I just lift mine onto 2 jack stands. But it is only a smaller Cub Tank ztr. I must be cheap.....lol

ed2hess
09-07-2006, 10:32 PM
You guys that are using the trailer gates if you approach the tailgate from the side and turn hard catching the left wheel If aprroaching from the r/h side of the trailer on the ramp and as you turn let the 1 wheel go up the trailer until the fork rest on the trailer side you can get to all three blades easily. Sort of a hook and turn method.
Mike,
That is a good idea......it is just so simple to change blades at the job site. I don't unload our trailers unless something is broke and is staying behind. Once you change a hydro pulley and put on new belt all this blade changing becomes simple. A fork lift works great for hydro belt changes...if you have access to one.

MOturkey
09-07-2006, 10:39 PM
Bought a Jungle Jack a month or so ago. Glad I did. I have the Liftmaster jack on my Gravely which utilizes the hydraulic deck lift, but it is a bit cumbersome to use for routine maintenance. Also, the Jungle Jack lifts the deck several inches higher.

For those of you who haven't used a Jungle Jack for some time, the newer ones have a foot-assist which makes it easier to lift your ZTR. They also have a safety on them. Probably unnecessary as i don't think anything short of a 6 or so on the Richter scale would knock it off the jack, but I still secure the safety, just to be sure. Money well spent, I think.

Jpocket
09-07-2006, 10:59 PM
Noramally I use a chain bock hoist, or I just run one side of the mower up the trailer ramp.

TLS
09-07-2006, 11:22 PM
You guys that are using the trailer gates if you approach the tailgate from the side and turn hard catching the left wheel If aprroaching from the r/h side of the trailer on the ramp and as you turn let the 1 wheel go up the trailer until the fork rest on the trailer side you can get to all three blades easily. Sort of a hook and turn method.

YES :cool2:

This works great. Was doing the 2 and 1 thing for years, then, out of not having enough room to pull straight on, I found that pulling up from the side allows access to all 3.

Big time saver.

Nosmo
06-15-2007, 05:23 PM
One method I use is a floor jack to get the height. Then I turn each caster wheel outward to about a 45 degree angle and place automotive ramps under the wheels with the ramp portion outwards. This is for a safety support and then lower the jack to let the front wheels on the ramp.

No problem at all getting to all three blades. I use a breaker bar on top the spindle and another below to break the nut loose. Both the top and bottom use 1-1/8" sockets.

TheKingNJ
06-15-2007, 05:51 PM
You guys that are using the trailer gates if you approach the tailgate from the side and turn hard catching the left wheel If aprroaching from the r/h side of the trailer on the ramp and as you turn let the 1 wheel go up the trailer until the fork rest on the trailer side you can get to all three blades easily. Sort of a hook and turn method.

Any chance you can post a pic of that. I tried it today and couln't do it on my 20ft enclosed.

Bigray
06-15-2007, 06:30 PM
jungle jack here as well

LarryF
06-15-2007, 07:03 PM
Floor jack + jack stands for safety.

fiveoboy01
06-15-2007, 07:21 PM
Floor jack...

Brianslawn
06-15-2007, 09:13 PM
we just flip the deck up and latch it. 60 seconds to switch out blades. who wants to lay under a lawn mower?

davemanou812
06-15-2007, 09:22 PM
Jungle Jack with rigid cordless impact , 2 extra batteries

Blessed 1
06-16-2007, 02:08 PM
I change blades on 2 60" Exmarks in 12 Minutes or less by using my tailgate on my 16ft trailer and a 1/2" electric inpact gun (Harbor Freight $59.00) and Xantrex Portable Power unit ($110-$229 depending on watts). I had considered a Jungle Jack but at the Expo this past year I tried and could not get my Impact under the blades.:weightlifter:

Update I have gone to a 8.5x20 Enclosed Trailer and I bought the next generation Jungle Jack (1 1/2" taller). I still dont have quite enough room to get my electric inpact gun under so I pull up on the ramp door just enough for the blade bolts to be right at the edge of the door then use the jungle jack and then I have enough room to get the impact gun under each bolt. I change blades on all three mowers in 15 minutes.:walking:

corey1977
06-16-2007, 04:07 PM
floor jack and do it with the machine on the trailer

KTO Enterprises
06-16-2007, 04:18 PM
I use an engine hoist.

Imow4u2
06-16-2007, 04:48 PM
Electric over head hoist and a 15/16 wrench

Idealtim
06-16-2007, 06:07 PM
Go to the pictures forum and look at the thread 'my stuff'. I have a pickup truck crane on the front right corner of my trailer. Simple, and works very well. Just drive to the curb side with mower, hook front to lift chain, jack up. Crane could lift 1000#s feet into the air. And the crane comes in handy for picking other things up.

topsites
06-16-2007, 06:14 PM
Over the years, I have honed my ability to levitate objects with my mind. I concentrate on lifting the mower while my helper changes the blades. Right now I am looking for a new helper since the "bikini accident".

You can use the force o' Grass Master, but lead yourself not into temptation http://bbs.conqueronline.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

TheKingNJ
06-16-2007, 07:06 PM
You can use the force o' Grass Master, but lead yourself not into temptation http://bbs.conqueronline.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

that looks fun to crawl under

Stillwater
06-17-2007, 07:05 AM
lower the gate drive one tire up the gate put on the e-break and your good to go. ramps are good to.

Stillwater
06-17-2007, 07:11 AM
You can use the force o' Grass Master, but lead yourself not into temptation http://bbs.conqueronline.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

ok so you are showing us you get under the mower with the floor jack on just the lip of the deck. No offence but that is totaly ******ed, dont you see that? something like that should be reserved for the lowball mow and go guys that took the short bus to school. seriously no offence but that picture is right out of a road runner cartoon

mkroher
06-17-2007, 08:43 AM
ok so you are showing us you get under the mower with the floor jack on just the lip of the deck. No offence but that is totaly ******ed, dont you see that? something like that should be reserved for the lowball mow and go guys that took the short bus to school. seriously no offence but that picture is right out of a road runner cartoon

LOL i thought the same thing. He'll learn the hard way.

hdhillin
06-17-2007, 01:37 PM
I did a google search for jungle jack, turned up Jack Hanna--does anyone have a link to where I can find one. THANKS!

hdhillin
06-17-2007, 01:40 PM
Never mind I found it here.
https://www.commercialdirect.net/productlisting/product.cfm?productid=30

cybervision
06-18-2007, 10:03 AM
I have a Hustler Super Mini and the safety wheels hit before I could get the machine high enough to use the electric impact wrench. To solve this I made 3" high ramps out of 3/4" plywood stacked together and backed the machines rear wheel on the ramps. This should help anyone who need more room under the deck or using the electric impact wrench and Jungle Jack.

LarryF
06-18-2007, 11:06 AM
that looks fun to crawl under

That's why jack stands were invented, as shown in post #2 of this similar thread.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=183570

timmac
06-18-2007, 12:46 PM
I have a Hustler Super Mini and the safety wheels hit before I could get the machine high enough to use the electric impact wrench. To solve this I made 3" high ramps out of 3/4" plywood stacked together and backed the machines rear wheel on the ramps. This should help anyone who need more room under the deck or using the electric impact wrench and Jungle Jack.

you got a picture of this?

cybervision
06-18-2007, 01:56 PM
I will be able to send a picture in a day or two. The ramps look like car ramps made from 4 pieces of 3/4" plywood. Each piece is slightly longer the the one above it. This form the ramp. The plywood pieces could be the same size. Having the bottom piece longer keeps them from slipping or flipping up as you back onto them. Just something simple to add a couple of extra inches.

WildLake
06-18-2007, 02:07 PM
deadlift the front end, have someone slide jack stands underneath. Would buy the jungle jack if i had the extra coin.


Wow! That's funny. :weightlifter:

Juan_Deere
06-18-2007, 03:06 PM
Never mind I found it here.
https://www.commercialdirect.net/productlisting/product.cfm?productid=30

I think this these are the type most people are referring to when they say they have a jungle jack.

http://www.mowtownusa.com/173.html

sheshovel
06-18-2007, 03:13 PM
Looks like this one just mowed over Swamp Thang!
Please do not try this at home or anywhere else!:cool2:

cybervision
06-18-2007, 03:39 PM
Jungle Jim's Jungle Jack Homepage:

http://www.junglejimsap.com/jack.html

(Instructions to all their products are there as well.)

Prestige-Lawncare
06-18-2007, 03:50 PM
The last time I was in Harbor Frieght I picked up a floor jack and a couple of jack stands. Trouble is ... my floor jack won't fit under the front of the deck on my Super Z :dizzy:

Nosmo
06-18-2007, 03:58 PM
The last time I was in Harbor Frieght I picked up a floor jack and a couple of jack stands. Trouble is ... my floor jack won't fit under the front of the deck on my Super Z :dizzy:

Try making those plywood ramps and drive your front wheels up on them. Raise your deck height to maximum and you should be able to get a floor jack under the deck.

Nosmo

lawnpro724
06-18-2007, 04:14 PM
Been there, done that.

I use a floor jack and an impact wrench. Takes 5 min. to swap blades out now.
12V impact wrench (240 ft. lbs.) that hooks up to a car battery for changes in the field if need be.

Same here floor jack and impact wrech makes blade swaps fast and easy.

LarryF
06-18-2007, 04:16 PM
Raise your deck height to maximum and you should be able to get a floor jack under the deck.

Nosmo


That works for me too. If it didn't, I think I'd just run the front wheels up on a pair of short 2x4s to gain another inch and a half, in addition to the deck also being up as high as it will go, of course.

TLS
06-18-2007, 04:17 PM
http://www.lawnsite.com/showpost.php?p=1573877&postcount=9

sheshovel
06-18-2007, 04:53 PM
Whaaat? You guys loose your sense of humor or what?

pricejs
12-31-2007, 03:23 PM
http://www.lawnsite.com/showpost.php?p=1573877&postcount=9

hey Great one...have been fretting this topic over the last month.
thanks-a-bunch

tb8100
12-31-2007, 11:27 PM
The only problem I had was driving up them, most of the time they would push back....



Heh heh you said "push back" :laugh:

lifetree
12-31-2007, 11:40 PM
The Jungle Jack looks like a nice piece of equipment !! How much is it ??

Blessed 1
01-02-2008, 08:55 AM
I got mines off scratch and dent. here is the info to call or email olivia@junglejimsap.com or call 888-844-5467 ext 33.