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clyde
09-11-2006, 08:19 AM
Hi all.

I just finished a 70ft long retaining wall for a guy. Now i have to install steps for him. Its those interlock blocks that lean back and have a beveled edge.

My question is.

Should i get some Benderboard and make a form and pour a thin slab for this and then set the pavers down and do leveling sand inbetween?

WOuld that be the best thing and if so how think the slab?

It seemthats the easiest way to level it . and also this guy doesn't really take care of his back yard so i am guessing weeds will be inbetween the pavers in no time flat.

DVS Hardscaper
09-11-2006, 09:29 AM
I have no clue what you're talkin about.

There is not just one answer!




Are the steps part of the wall? If so, do the steps seperate the wall?

Or are the steps elsewhere?

clyde
09-12-2006, 02:01 AM
The walls go up to the concrete that surrounds the pool and there is a 4foot gap i had to leave in order to build the Paver Steps.

YardPro
09-12-2006, 07:28 AM
how about some pictures

forestfireguy
09-12-2006, 04:55 PM
Are you trying to say you're using pavers as the step treads?

DVS Hardscaper
09-12-2006, 07:25 PM
still not sure what you're talkin about.

In most cases, when we do walls and intregrate steps with them, we make the steps with wall block and cap modules. This way all the textures are consistant, and the job is not getting too busy to the eyes.

neversatisfiedj
09-12-2006, 09:22 PM
Hey DVS - I built those Celtik steps last weekend - they turned out pretty well THX for your help.

clyde
09-13-2006, 03:44 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/clydestewart/Picture015.jpg

clyde
09-13-2006, 03:46 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/clydestewart/Picture017.jpg


This is on the other side of wall the 2nd set of where steps should be this set is narrower than the other set which is what goes in the open space in the picture below

clyde
09-13-2006, 03:48 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c194/clydestewart/Picture019.jpg

clyde
09-13-2006, 03:49 PM
i wanted to make it where the edge of the steps were curved with a small arc

clyde
09-13-2006, 03:51 PM
Sorry for the choppy sentences at top i was tired or sleepy and didn't realize i messed it up that bad :(

DVS Hardscaper
09-13-2006, 08:15 PM
Start somewhere towards the wall, build the steps with the same retaining wall block and cap modules.

Use crusher run aggregate for backfilling as the steps are built.

The do a paver path from the top step to the pool deck.



The pic below somewhat depicts the concept I am speakin of:

http://www.outdoorfinishes.com/images/services/patios/patios%202/patio-&-wall-lg1.jpg

Total Landscape Solutions
09-13-2006, 10:23 PM
This is my version of paver steps.

clyde
09-13-2006, 11:46 PM
how are they stuck together?

Mortar?

Total Landscape Solutions
09-14-2006, 08:33 AM
The faces (risers) and only the outside soldier course of the tread is glued on with Paver Bond. The rest of the step is swept in as usual.

DVS Hardscaper
09-14-2006, 11:01 AM
Those steps do not look bad.

There is a downfall to doing them that way. And that is: that prodecure is extremely time consuming. We used to do steps like that, with pavers. The price is way more money than using nice block. Just makes it nearly impossible to offer the consumer a competitive price.

Total Landscape Solutions
09-14-2006, 02:13 PM
The process is more time consuming than doing block and cap steps. When the customer is presented with the choice of using all the same material for the steps and patio sometimes they go for it, even at an increased cost.

Personally I like it better. I have done them countless times this way (I have other pics if anyone is interested) and after some experience with the process (as with anything else) you get much more efficient. I think visually it flows much nicer using all the same material.

In the end though DVS is correct it takes about two to three times longer, hence two to three times the cost. But for the better finished look, I try to sell it every time.
Addam

fall46
09-14-2006, 02:17 PM
Addam..

Are you just glueing those pavers to the exsting stoops?

BSDeality
09-14-2006, 02:51 PM
is it an optical illusion or are your seems on the steps not parrallel with the seems on the patio?

I recently looked at a job where another contractor had bonded the pavers like you had to the rise face of the step. Never saw it done before then

Total Landscape Solutions
09-14-2006, 08:36 PM
I started the job with a blank canvas. Absolutely nothing in the yard. The house had just been built and there was about a 3' drop from the sliding doors to the dirt.

We based in to a certain level, then framed and poured the steps with added re-bar for strength. After curing, the forms are stripped and the gravel was brought up to hieght and the patio was laid. Then all the cutting begins on the steps.

fall46
09-14-2006, 09:23 PM
Whats the overhang on your risers .25""?

Total Landscape Solutions
09-15-2006, 07:42 AM
I try to keep it between 3/8 and 1/2" depending on the type and size of the paver.