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AndrewLawn
06-05-2001, 12:05 PM
Hey,I'd like to address an article of concern.A lot of times when reading a post,I honestly can't tell what the person is talking about because of poor grammar/bad typing skills/poor spelling.I don't know if this upsets anyone else,but sometimes,I don't even know what they're talking about.Now,I'm not saying that every word has to be right,or everything grammatically correct,but could you at least try?I saw a post,and I couldn't understand what he was talking about at first,because when he tried to say "heard" he typed hard.I said to myself oh,must have been a typo,but nope,three sentences later,there it was again.He also spelled "cousin", "coushion",and left out periods,question marks,everything.I'm not meaning to offend whoever wrote this,but I couldn't even figure out what you were talking about.And it's not just him,I've seen several lawnsite members with this problem.Grassyfrass is another bad speller(no offense).I have to read his post 2 or 3 times before I can understand what he's talking about?!?!Anyway,I'm just saying that I wish most of you guys could take 20 seconds to read over your post and make sure that it makes sense,and try to spell most words correctly.If you're as hasteful and uncaring at your lawncare business as you are at typing,I wouldn't want you working for me,that's for sure.I've gone on way too long,but anyone who agrees(or for that mattter,disagrees)with me,please reply.AGAIN,I DID NOT MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE!

Eric ELM
06-05-2001, 12:17 PM
We all make mistakes. I noticed you don't use the space bar after comma's or after a sentence. There should be 2 spaces after the end of a sentence. I think this also makes it hard to read. Hard to figure out where one sentence starts and ends. We have had several discussions on this same topic over the months, but we will never get 100% correct spelling, grammar or sentence structure.

I do know what you are talking about though. I know for sure I'm not the greatest at posting, but I do try. That is the main thing in my opinion. :)

Toroguy
06-05-2001, 12:22 PM
There is a spell checker option before posting...

I agree it is sometimes difficult to understand the meaning. I make my mistakes from poor typing ability, by hitting the wrong keys. But I try to improve the readability of my posts the majority of the time.

I believe that with frequent posts, the user(s) will improve their spelling and grammar from experience.

Mr.Ziffel
06-05-2001, 12:36 PM
I find it to be a sure thing that if someone starts out a sentence with something like, "Let me be perfectly honest with you...", I can be pretty sure that they won't be! Likewise when someone says, "I don't mean to offend, but...", I can be sure that they will. But what you said doesn't offend me. I try to take time with my posts, but inevitably there will be a typo or spelling error and rather than take the time to proof it a few times which is what it really takes to do it right for a post of anything more that a few short sentences, I just go on and hit the submit button.

That being said, the easy way to deal with this 'problem', at least for me, is to either hit my mental 'ignore' button and then push the 'back' button on my browser OR to sigh and try to wade through it in the hopes of being able to glean some bit of knowledge or insight, of which there's more than average on this site--yes folks, that's the correct way to spell where we are here, not 'sight' as I see so often but since I understand what they mean, so what.

Well, the rain's slacking off so it's back to work. Thanks for getting this far with my ramblings if indeed you did. !!
Will M>

Eng Mwr Guy
06-05-2001, 01:46 PM
I are an EnGineeer. I aint spel so good hey. LOL

I will agree it is a lot more work to read some people's posts than others. I personally, if it gets to the ludicrous stage, do what Mr. Z does - move on.

I am happy everyone feels free to contribute. This is an excellent learning forum for landscapers (and the occasional wayward engineer type).



Barry:

BRL
06-05-2001, 02:19 PM
I certainly don't mean to offend, but, it takes a lot of nerve to write a post about bad grammar, spelling and typing skills, that is written in the manner which you are complaining about. Please heed your own advise before complaining about others making the same mistakes. Your post was just as hard to read as the ones saying "My coushion hard this is a god sight to larn about the green industry".

Eric,
I put the 2 spaces before starting new sentences but the software automatically changes it to one space. I never noticed that before. We can't complain to ourselves about that one anymore, its not our fault!

jeffyr
06-05-2001, 02:23 PM
This may be nitpicky--but when people put such a vague title description on their thread (example : "??????" or "Why Does?") it makes me want to skip it. An accurate description will get more viewings by people you would like to see it.
As the Zif said though.....that is what the back button is there for.

jeffyr

awm
06-05-2001, 03:01 PM
lot of time the way a man post gives some idea
what he is like. adds a little flavor ,if you will

Mr.Ziffel
06-05-2001, 03:59 PM
I've sure found that to be the case with you AW and I've come to enjoy everything you have to say in your own unique way. Keep it up, let your voice of experience and common sense keep on comin'! It's guys like you who bring a certain levelheadedness needed in a place like this. Thanks, Will M>

grassyfras
06-05-2001, 04:27 PM
AndrewLawn,

I have noticed that I am a bad speller. Latly, I have been trying to do better. Sorry to everyone else.
I think we need more things like this, So people like me know what their doing wrong.

toddco
06-05-2001, 04:39 PM
I agree, the spelling and grammar here often border on hilarious, and do add a lot of flavor.

In some OTHER threads the issue I find most disappointing is when someone goes on a rant about the need for more “professionalism” in this industry, then in the same post slams another member directly for being a “moronic teen”, stupid, or too new to share an opinion.

I ain't no turf professional, but I can tell you that in other fields the professionals aren't the ones who insult their peers, especially the young men and women entering the field. It ain't the shirt logos, age, exclusivity, or equipment brand that makes a professional. It's the calm attitude and knowledgeable support they provide their customers and peers.

People come here from all over to learn more about creating beautiful landscapes or how to get their business going. The shared wisdom found is priceless. The funk toward others is worth considerably less.

PS – in case you want to slam me, I can’t mow straight lines worth a darn. Really embarrassing. :)

The_Outlaw
06-05-2001, 04:57 PM
Ok, I agree with toddco. However, when someone is trying to give advice, and I can't understand a thing they're saying... I find it hard to take them seriously. Grammar doesn't have to be perfect, occasional spelling mistakes I can understand.... But PLEASE, at least make some effort!


PS: I'll show my ignorance here... Someone said somthing about a spell checker? How do I do that?:D

Volhunter
06-05-2001, 05:00 PM
I agree. I know none of us are perfect, certainly not me, but some of these posts are pitiful. My daughter wrote with better spelling and sentence structure when she was in the 3rd grade. I believe the point is this: No one is writing a doctorial thesis on here, so grammer, spelling, etc. doesn't have to be perfect or even close to perfect. It would, however, be nice to at least be able to understand what in the heck is trying to be said!

Freetime
06-05-2001, 05:19 PM
Typee et in ward an pastee et in your reple on the lawn sytee thataway yer spelin and some gramerical eares will get took care of an peoples ken understend et.

Type your reply to a post in word using the spell checker/thesaurus on YOUR COMPUTER and copy then paste to content area of post ON LAWNSITE it sure does wonders for me.
:p :D

LoneStarLawn
06-05-2001, 05:20 PM
The spell checker option has been removed....
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14702&highlight=spell

HOMER
06-05-2001, 05:36 PM
dran!

woops

darn?

i"m gronna misc that speel chequer

smburgess
06-05-2001, 06:08 PM
Homer...

You are too cool. LOL

AndrewLawn
06-05-2001, 06:56 PM
I think THE_OUTLAW best described what I wanted to say,and that is:It's discouraging when I can't understand what others are asking.I didn't mean that every word had to be spelled perfectly,that would be absurd.Hopefully,though,you can understand what someone else is saying!grassyfras,thanks for being so cool about this,I named you out specifically cause I knew you would be able to handle this maturly:)

AndrewLawn
06-05-2001, 06:59 PM
oh yeah,vholunteer also somes up what I was trying to say:)
Also,grassyfras,did you notice that when you DID try to write well,you DID!just goes to show

grassyfras
06-05-2001, 07:25 PM
Yep

I use to just try to get my point across.

enough said

lawnboykb
06-05-2001, 07:28 PM
Man ah doesn't unnerstan' whut all th' fuss is about...ah can read all yer posts an' they all soun' smart t'me. Heck eff'n ah c'd spell like all yo' folks then ah w'd be a docko' o' sumpin other then a grass mower.

dhicks
06-05-2001, 07:32 PM
What I enjoy most about Lawnsite dot com is the people. From reading the various messages, one can only guess that Lawnsite attracts people from all educational levels, e.g., basic education to doctorial level users. For me the challenge is NOT to criticize those with less education but for me to try to understand what they are attempting to put into words for the respective reader(s). For all that I serve, I would prefer to be known for my listening skills than for my communication skills.

But dat be mi Pinion.

lawnboy82
06-05-2001, 08:01 PM
This post was not within LS posting guidlines

David Gretzmier
06-05-2001, 08:24 PM
OK- I'll Say it. I hate the posts that run all together. The value of this website is in the opinions of all. If I can't even understand your opinion, or choose to ignore it because of unreadability, That opinion just became worthless. It seems others are doing the same and moving on, so it decreases the value of those opinions further. I can not stress enough that there may be an important piece of information in those muddy posts, and it is getting lost because of poor grammer and spelling. Mine are not perfect , but if I at least want folks to READ what I think, I vote for keeping it as clean as possible.

A misc. gripe- why, sometimes when I try to put spaces and lines between my paragraphs or lists does the site take them out? Is there a special code other than hitting the space bar?

:confused: Dave g

kris
06-05-2001, 08:54 PM
I hated school... dropped out at a early age. There have been very few posts, if any at all that I haven't been able to understand. I am not the best speller and my grammar might suck, but I bet anyone out there in this businness would hire me. I could make you a pile of money. I AM NOT BRAGGING!!! I am trying to make the point...don't judge others because of bad spelling and grammar. I'm sure in most cases they are doing the best that they can and they just might be excellent at something else. You say you don't mean to offend anyone and then mention specific names???? If you mention my name.....I would be offended. PS To all the young folk out there...STAY IN SCHOOL!!

MOW ED
06-05-2001, 10:00 PM
Homer

I gotted a good laff otta dat one but I noe yew gots bettr stuf. ?< < +_)(*&:D

mowerman90
06-05-2001, 10:16 PM
If we would all just preview our posts before posting them this problem would go away!

Lawn DOG
06-05-2001, 10:22 PM
What duz all dis meeen?:confused:

1MajorTom
06-05-2001, 11:38 PM
Yep I agree Mowerman90. I always preview my post first. And I still miss some mistakes every now and then. ;)

Toroguy
06-05-2001, 11:47 PM
I never used the spell checker, so I didnt realize it was gone. I think a dictionary is quicker than the spell checker process.

jasonp
06-05-2001, 11:57 PM
Well if you dont likes the way we folks talk on this here lawnsite internet thingy. I gots two or three words for ya "go elsewhere".
Im just kidding just do what I do sometimes I just read it backwards and that makes it real hard to understand.LOL

KirbysLawn
06-06-2001, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by mowerman90
If we would all just preview our posts before posting them this problem would go away!

True. True.

AndrewLawn
06-06-2001, 12:42 PM
Hey,I just wanted to say that I regret ever making this thread.It shouldn't even have been on the "commercial lawncare" section anyway.Also,even though the agree/disagree ratio was split 50/50,I still feel bad to have annoyed/bothered/or upset those who disagreed with me.My apologies.I hope you can forgive me:)

AltaLawnCare
06-06-2001, 02:12 PM
I believe it has to do alot with rushing. This time of year especially. If one is posting on this forum, then one is not turning production hours.........

Unless they do it during their day job :D

And by the way, my stripes tend to look like snakes sliding across the plains:mad:

jeffyr
06-06-2001, 03:10 PM
Like this Alta.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1348067&a=12909859&p=49935849&Sequence=0&res=high

:D

AltaLawnCare
06-06-2001, 04:57 PM
Very close,..

That Toro 51" starts hitting bumps and it's all I can do to hold on and stay on the Velke, let alone keep straight!

Grateful11
06-06-2001, 08:36 PM
I agree with lawnboy82 this is OT. Why was it not moved like Charles' post the other week, you know the one that was lost? Just curious.
:confused:

iski3d
06-06-2001, 08:41 PM
hookied on foniks wurked fur me!;)

LoneStarLawn
06-06-2001, 08:44 PM
<b>Gratefull11</b>....A moderator posted that in lawnboy82's post (note: last edited by:Kirbyslawn)...lawnboy82 was not posting within the guidelines.

Toroguy
06-06-2001, 08:50 PM
The picture posted by jeffyr is the aftermath of an Atomic "round-up" bomb.