Considering the illegal gas can business.

[horizonmowing]

This is SO annoying. In my state it is illegal to sell the old style gas cans that worked perfectly. Some liberal environmental Bull Sh*t. Well, I bought a few "blitz" pieces of crap, lost all the little yellow caps, and am now spilling more gas then ever. I really think one of you who lives in a state with out this ridiculous law should put the old style cans on E-bay... I would sure buy a few.

P.S.- I tried the web but they wont ship into my state. What a stupid F'ing law!!!!

This is scary the laws that are getting passed these days....the 10 commandments and that all we need. If God didn't want these gas cans he could of made it number 11. JMO

[ChadsLawn]

I dont think its just your state. It probably everywhere. I also have the "Blitz" cans. But I have yet to lose any caps.

[Uranus]

Not only have I lost all three of my yellow caps, But I lost a full can one day going down the road. When they heat up in the sun with the caps on they swell up like beach balls. I wish I could find the chilton cans. I did replace one of my caps though. Went to collect an outstanding debt from a dead beat and when they didn't answer the door (car was in drive) I turned around and took the cap off their can on the porch. Thank you. Same person owes me for 2 cuts and asked if I would take a post dated check. Today is the 18th and she wanted to date it the 29th. NO WAY. guess I'll be knocking in the door again.

[tacoma200]

This is SO annoying. In my state it is illegal to sell the old style gas cans that worked perfectly. Some liberal environmental Bull Sh*t. Well, I bought a few "blitz" pieces of crap, lost all the little yellow caps, and am now spilling more gas then ever. I really think one of you who lives in a state with out this ridiculous law should put the old style cans on E-bay... I would sure buy a few.

P.S.- I tried the web but they wont ship into my state. What a stupid F'ing law!!!!

This is scary the laws that are getting passed these days....the 10 commandments and that all we need. If God didn't want these gas cans he could of made it number 11. JMO
Your state has no shortage of laws, rules and regs. When I moved there from Kentucky it was strange to have everything so tightly controlled. You need a permit to put up a out house. Better than Ca. though. From Virginia to the North east this seems to be common. Some nice folks but they like rules and regs. I'm like Outback Steakhouse's attitude "no rules, just right".
Guess they get that from our Aussie friends. .

[thesargent]

what do these cans look like? do you have a picture or a link to a picture of one. maybe i can help you out.

[DBL]

This is SO annoying. In my state it is illegal to sell the old style gas cans that worked perfectly. Some liberal environmental Bull Sh*t. Well, I bought a few "blitz" pieces of crap, lost all the little yellow caps, and am now spilling more gas then ever. I really think one of you who lives in a state with out this ridiculous law should put the old style cans on E-bay... I would sure buy a few.

P.S.- I tried the web but they wont ship into my state. What a stupid F'ing law!!!!

This is scary the laws that are getting passed these days....the 10 commandments and that all we need. If God didn't want these gas cans he could of made it number 11. JMO

man a gas can is a gas can there is no whinning to be done here

[MountainMow]

Too bad we cant find a way to use the ten commandments to help you keep up with your own gas caps. Anyway, these things are pretty sweet:

<a href="http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000480.php">smart fill</a>

[Chop Stuff Up]

If you are sick of the Blitz cans, its understandable, because they suck. Wedco cans are 10x better as far as the pour spout goes. This guy on ebay has some: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-Wedco-Spill-Proof-Gas-Can-Plastic-5-Gallon-20-Liter_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34284QQhashZitem290025222006QQihZ019QQitemZ290025222006QQrdZ1QQsspa genameZWDVW

They breathe well when pouring, and you pull the spout back to pour, and let it go to stop pouring. Best part is that they pour straight into the can, instead of spraying in all different directions like the Blitz do. The nozzle is actually 2 nozzles in 1. It has an air inlet, as well as the part that pours. This allows you to control the gas flow without an air vaccum. The flow automatically stops to prevent overflow when the air inlet comes in contact with the gas in your tank. Hope this helps.

[lawnmaniac883]

Funny you mention this, I seriously had a dream last night that I was at my dealer and they had a pallet of the old rubbermaid gas cans with the bendable spout and vent at the other end. I walked out with 15 of them.......

[mike lane lawn care]

i have the blitz style, the plastic caps that are supposed to vent, don't vent, the can gets all puffed up by the end of the day. I have one of the caps sitting at the bottom of my tractor tank, probably forever.

[grandview (2006)]

Believe it or not.You can use a turpentine can for gas as long it is marked with writing saying gas. And it is DOT approved.

[horizonmowing]

Funny you mention this, I seriously had a dream last night that I was at my dealer and they had a pallet of the old rubbermaid gas cans with the bendable spout and vent at the other end. I walked out with 15 of them.......

Only in our dreams...

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/768013/2/istockphoto_768013_gas_can_1.jpg

[kmann]

I got one of these last week. Someone put it out with their trash, so I snagged it.

[horizonmowing]

I got one of these last week. Someone put it out with their trash, so I snagged it.

Actually, environmental hippies have places where you can trade the awesome kind for the POS blitz containers. Im gunna find one of these, post up, and buy all cans that come my way :).

[Tharrell]

Those new cans really do suck. I had to buy one when someone stole my good one. I pierced the underside of the top handle so it would vent, I still have my cap.

[DaughtryLC]

I hate those new cans, It seems that on a hot day they blow up like a balloon. The old ones didn't do that!

[ATL Lawn]

anyone use a truck mout gas pump?

[Turf Terror]

I just bought 2 of the Eagle metal cans...
$35 bucks apiece at Home Depot. Whew!!!

[meathead1134]

I hate those new cans, It seems that on a hot day they blow up like a balloon. The old ones didn't do that!

I second this, This thread comes up about every month. In some other thread somebody actually email Blitz with the link to the thread and I have heard nothing about it.

On the other hand if you don't put the fill nozzle on the top of the can and pout it like a gallon of milk that works fine. This is what I do but you have to have a steady hand

[PROCUT1]

I have spilled 100 times the amount of gas with the new cans than I ever did with the old ones. Not to mention the burned and busted knuckels when they slip trying to fill a trimmer with the dam can upside down and pushing on it.

[petekief]

I have spilled 100 times the amount of gas with the new cans than I ever did with the old ones. Not to mention the burned and busted knuckels when they slip trying to fill a trimmer with the dam can upside down and pushing on it.
me too - the fill tube broke on my old one (don't know how exactly i think it was just old age) and i had to buy a new one. i spilled more gas with it than i had in the ten or twelve years i owned the old one - it sucks!!!! - i'm getting better though didn't spill too much the last time i filled up - wankers!!! - did anyone test anything before they passed that legislation?????

[topsites]

Only in our dreams...

<stockphoto here>

I still have a few of those, they're the old Craftsman (made by Sears) cans, I bought three when I started and they last at least 2-3 years but 5-6 is more like it.

I only have 1 5-gallon left but 2x 2.5 and an extra spout or two, they do break over time but it is the best can ever made. I bet I could sell an old decrepit one on ebay for over $100 LOL (but I won't which is even more LOL).

AFAIK the regulation is federal, all states must comply, any 'special' cans made are just a spinoff of the bs cans sold everywhere, I first agree it blows and second I don't see the spinoffs being any better.

The spilling gas isn't the problem, that can happen with any can... What frustrates me is the stupid venting spout.

[P&C Lawn Care]

I'm glad to see this post Those self venting cans aren't worth a crap, they swell up like a tick in the summer time. I am always on the look out for good cans. When I find them I buy them whether I need it or not.

[yardmanlee]

Only in our dreams...

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/768013/2/istockphoto_768013_gas_can_1.jpg
this is what I have after buying the blitz and using it one week I went back to my old cans and are impossible to find but work just fine !!

[lawnwizards]

what do the new cans look like? all i have are the vented ones.

[Frontier-Lawn]

http://cgi.ebay.com/JUSTRITE-2-Gallon-Type-1-Safety-Gas-Can_W0QQitemZ290031645031QQihZ019QQcategoryZ11899QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/02/61/2a/6f_1_b.JPG

[Frontier-Lawn]

i have this type http://cgi.ebay.com/NO-SPILL-5-GALLON-CARB-SERIES-GAS-CAN_W0QQitemZ190030397388QQihZ009QQcategoryZ71495QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://i11.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/16/d7/be_1_b.JPG
i also have one of these
http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/5b/ce/43_2.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6-gallon-Flo-N-Go-Combo-gas-can-large-size_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6755QQihZ014QQitemZ330030832536QQrdZ1

[Frontier-Lawn]

in december im buying this
http://i15.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/5b/f5/e9_2.JPG

[stoneseller]

I hate the new style being sold everywhere these days.
I do like these though:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611784519

[Turf Terror]

I hate the new style being sold everywhere these days.
I do like these though:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611784519
That Grainger one is similar to the Eagle can. It comes with a funnel that slips over the spout for a 90 degree pouring angle.

[stoneseller]

Grainger has the Eagle cans in stock. This thread reminded me that I've been needing to trash my plastic deisel cans which take forever to empty into my tractor. Ordered 2 yellow & one red of the Eagles, about $36.00 each

[SLR]

Some nice folks but they like rules and regs. I'm like Outback Steakhouse's attitude "no rules, just right".
Guess they get that from our Aussie friends. .
==
Is it laws galore over there Tacoma?

[BCF]

Those friggin cans leak through the gasket, make a huge mess while pouring, either on the ground,e quipment, or your hands, and it takes 3 hours to empty a 5 gallon one. Funny, though, how there actually could be a black market for something as mundane as a gas can!:hammerhead:

[jsf343]

This is SO annoying. In my state it is illegal to sell the old style gas cans that worked perfectly. Some liberal environmental Bull Sh*t. Well, I bought a few "blitz" pieces of crap, lost all the little yellow caps, and am now spilling more gas then ever. I really think one of you who lives in a state with out this ridiculous law should put the old style cans on E-bay... I would sure buy a few.

P.S.- I tried the web but they wont ship into my state. What a stupid F'ing law!!!!

This is scary the laws that are getting passed these days....the 10 commandments and that all we need. If God didn't want these gas cans he could of made it number 11. JMO

I hear ya! They are junk and more dangerous than the old ones.

[jsf343]

in december im buying this
http://i15.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/5b/f5/e9_2.JPG

Where do you get those things? Grainger? how much?

[T. Wheeler]

I dunno if its ok to post a link for this, but we use no-spill cans they work great, I haven't spilled gas in forever.

http://www.no-spill.com/
They also have CARB Cans now
http://www.no-spill.com/CARBcans.htm

[Frontier-Lawn]

i was able to find these. they have a screw vent on the other side from the spout.

[yardmanlee]

i was able to find these. they have a screw vent on the other side from the spout.

got that one at the begining of the season and the spout lasted adout 2 weeks before splitting in the creases went back to the old ones

[topsites]

No offense to the guys buying those really expensive cans but I think ALL new gas cans are pure POS, the problem is the vent INSIDE the spout and the expensive cans apparently do little to relieve this problem other than they're made of steel and a few have a handle-pump whoop-dee-do they all blow LOL.

Thou I do like the long one with the nozzle and the hose coming out from underneath, that one looks promising, someone actually put some thought into that solution.

What exactly is it that made this law come into effect anyway, this stuff is as stupid as child proof lighters (which, by the way, only in the USA - europe has normal lighters)...

The ONLY good gas can is this one, nothing else compares:
... maybe I should offer 1 free grass cut (up to an acre normal height LOL) for any 1 of these LOL...
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/768013/2/istockphoto_768013_gas_can_1.jpg

[Rons Rightway Lawncare]

The ones everyone is bitching about.... I use them and found that if you leave the nozzle just loose enough to easily twist or turn on the jug, the can will not swell up and yet no gas will spill out when on the trailer. Tighten it up a half turn before using, loosen a half turn afterwards. Haven't lost a cap yet.

I only use it to fill up the mower. I use a older type jug for the weedeater.

[The Ripper]

If you lose your caps you can fit a plastic soda bottle over the nozzle and it works just fine. Kinda ghetto though!

[Frontier-Lawn]

If you lose your caps you can fit a plastic soda bottle over the nozzle and it works just fine. Kinda ghetto though!

oh the dot would love that one :laugh:

[Total.Lawn.Care]

Where do you get those things? Grainger? how much?

Northern Tool. Here is the link to the website item. http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200317034_200317034

$99 I am going to get one this winter as well. 15 gallons. i think they have an 11 gallon model as well for about $75. I am going with the 15 Gal.

[hdtvluvr]

Does anyone use these? Are they any good?

[Rons Rightway Lawncare]

You know I don't have the time this morning to google search a place to buy them, but anyone who has raced dirt bikes knows there are some nice jugs they use that aren't too expensive and pour fast.

Those metal cans are just heavy and cumbersome. The tank with the hose looks neat but you have to have it higher than whatever your filling and that might make the tank itself hard to fill up.

[Total.Lawn.Care]

You know I don't have the time this morning to google search a place to buy them, but anyone who has raced dirt bikes knows there are some nice jugs they use that aren't too expensive and pour fast.

Those metal cans are just heavy and cumbersome. The tank with the hose looks neat but you have to have it higher than whatever your filling and that might make the tank itself hard to fill up.

As for the tank with the hose on it, I feel sure that if you keep it in the bed of the truck and let the tailgate down, then the gravity pressure from the weight of the fuel in the tank will force it to flow well into the Z parked next to the truck and your mix can on the ground. I just have to move my trailer jack (which I want to anyway) so taht I can let down the tailgate while hitched up.

[Jim@MilkyWay]

Too bad we cant find a way to use the ten commandments to help you keep up with your own gas caps. Anyway, these things are pretty sweet:

<a href="http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000480.php">smart fill</a>Yes!
You are correctamundo.
The smart fill cans are good, safe and don't waste. They are not practical, in my opinion for a tank capacity of a gallon or more. They are however, perfect for _very_ small tanks. I use it to top-off all my tanks. I pour to near full with conventional, flexible spout, then stop before running it over and finish off with the smart fill.

[stroker51]

I managed to snag 3 of the good old fashioned plastic cans w/ the screw down vents on one end and spout on the other today. I walked into my John Deere dealership and 3 of them were sitting on a shelf out on the floor and i snatched em up. $11 a piece, but hey, they are better than what i have, I was so happy to find some real cans.:clapping:

[mojob]

I didn't bother reading all the posts so someone might have mentioned these already. Grainger sells metal gas cans with spring-loaded caps. They work great, but a little pricey (about $35).

[hdtvluvr]

Anyone close to Canada? I'd like 2 of these.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443279564&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517494&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517533&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=1408474396670538&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396670538&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1159026145915

[Wolfie's L&L]

What I don't understand is why the "tree-huggers" took cans like the one below off the market anyways-this type is so much better than the "ventless" ones that you see today.

Jason

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/768013/2/istockphoto_768013_gas_can_1.jpg[/QUOTE]

[Total.Lawn.Care]

Dunno?????

[Grass Man]

.... Check at Wal-Mart, I believe you can get replacement kits: spout, cap, and the little yellow thingie you spoke of. Seems to me I remember seeing them their. :)


This is SO annoying. In my state it is illegal to sell the old style gas cans that worked perfectly. Some liberal environmental Bull Sh*t. Well, I bought a few "blitz" pieces of crap, lost all the little yellow caps, and am now spilling more gas then ever. I really think one of you who lives in a state with out this ridiculous law should put the old style cans on E-bay... I would sure buy a few.

P.S.- I tried the web but they wont ship into my state. What a stupid F'ing law!!!!

This is scary the laws that are getting passed these days....the 10 commandments and that all we need. If God didn't want these gas cans he could of made it number 11. JMO

[hdtvluvr]

Yesterday, I found 2 gal (not 2.5) and 5 gal cans at Bass Pro shop in the marine section. The cans have a flexible spout with screw on cap and a snap closure on the backside for venting. $3.99 for 2 gal and $6.99 for 5 gal. I checked their website and they aren't there.

[BHShaman]

6Gal w/vent (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000UK8I22/ref=ord_cart_shr/102-4031007-4638506?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A1QMOGWERWEUPX&v=glance)

[DiyDave]

I bought 8 5 gallon and 2 2-1/2's at an auction last spring in PA. Every time I see a new old style one, I snap it up. Leave it to big government to F/U anything! Where in the constitution does it say the federal government has any say in this?:usflag:

[yardmanlee]

i need some spouts for the old style like pictured above

["Ground Control"]

i was able to find these. they have a screw vent on the other side from the spout.

I can find those about anywhere here in Montana

[BHShaman]

I can find those about anywhere here in Montana

Buy them while you can. Once a state goes CARB, they clear the shelves fast by pulling all stock and reshipping them to a non-CARB state.

[Envy Lawn Service]

The ONLY good gas can is this one, nothing else compares:
... maybe I should offer 1 free grass cut (up to an acre normal height LOL) for any 1 of these LOL...
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/768013/2/istockphoto_768013_gas_can_1.jpg

Ain't that the f-ing truth!!!

I have exacly one of those left and it's that exact can/jug.
The one gallon.... and I put mix gas in it.
It's not anywhere near that color anymore though... LOL... more like orangy-milky white... LOL...

The rest have been stolen... and that one would have too had my pitbull not been outside 'doin business' one night. The dog freaked out and I freaked out. I had rolled in with my stuff that evening and cut my own lawn before dark. I left the can sitting on the trailer floor... this little prick saw it I guess and figured near midnight was a good time to hike across my property and snatch it. He didn't go far before he decided to put it down... LOL...

[MattsMowing3535]

I happened to pick one of those up at a garage sale free but it was full of old engine oil. the exact one to, they really are nice cans. I use mine to put old fuel in from engines I fix and then use it to start fires and stuff...

[PEVO]

Northern Tool. Here is the link to the website item. http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200317034_200317034

$99 I am going to get one this winter as well. 15 gallons. i think they have an 11 gallon model as well for about $75. I am going with the 15 Gal.
Some Tractor Supply Stores carry these too! I 'm thinking about doing the same...since my Super-Z can hold up to 12gal. itself.

[prizeprop]

6Gal w/vent (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000UK8I22/ref=ord_cart_shr/102-4031007-4638506?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A1QMOGWERWEUPX&v=glance)
My uncle gave me one of these,too tall and narrow.They fall over when not secured.took it out of circulation immediately.

[DiyDave]

BHShaman- welcome to lawnsite! Know any nonCARB states?

[BHShaman]

Here is the list of Fuel Container CARB states and their compliance dates:
http://www.nospill.com/States_Compliance.htm

I don't tote my cans around that much and find they stand up well if you build a box with slide in dividers for the trailer. Just slip them into their spaces and they don't tip at all. I guess if you are moving your cans around the garage or a workspace a lot or just wanted to toss them in the back of the truck their style would be a factor. But I could not find any teardrop cans like the B&S cans online with the rear handle (which I prefer)

[mx315]

I've used these for 15-20 years racing mx and you can find them at most motorcycle shops or online. Buy the can, then go to Lowes and make your own pour spout with one inch flex hose. I've got one in my garage that I use every Sunday at the track, that's about 9-10 years old and never replaced anything on it. Takes up less room and very hard to flip over.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/188/7342/ITEM/Western-Power-Sports-LC-5-Gallon-Jug.aspx

or

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/9/188/1483/ITEM/Scribner-Plastics-Spacesaver-Utility-Jugs-(D.O.T-Approved).aspx

[KTO Enterprises]

I have several 5 gallon cans That I use with the race car. They have large hoses coming out the top and I can dump 5 gallons in less than a minute. This is what they look like.

i uses plastic water fittings and clear water hose from lowes to make the dump hose. The Cap on the can has a threaded spot in for this. Here is the can I use.

http://www.daymotorsports.com/product/1662/c/S29/#

here is an oldie but goodie in the shed.

[Sweet Tater]

I have not heard about this new gas can, however I did look it up on the net to see what ya'll are talking about. Today I stopped for gas at my local station/general store and there were about 8 of the old style cans. about $7 per. I think 2 to 2.5 gal cans. Spout on front vent hole w/cap on other end. This is Mississippi, think I should buy a few even though I don't need them right now?

[yardmanlee]

if ya do would ya be willing to ship some ? any 5 gallon ?

[Supper Grassy]

I have not heard about this new gas can, however I did look it up on the net to see what ya'll are talking about. Today I stopped for gas at my local station/general store and there were about 8 of the old style cans. about $7 per. I think 2 to 2.5 gal cans. Spout on front vent hole w/cap on other end. This is Mississippi, think I should buy a few even though I don't need them right now?

BUY THEM ALL

[Sweet Tater]

let me get a pic of one tomorrow and post it to see if its the good one ya like. Its not illegal for an individual to ship them to you guys is it? behonost don't want tobe calling Big Bubba "daddy" :(

[Mr.Hurry]

I'm using the no spill cans, with the carb spout .They work great, and there a low profile can so there's less tipping over.

[Mr.Hurry]

WWW.NOSPILL.COM

[Supper Grassy]

i do not think that it is illegal to ship them as long as they are empty

[KTO Enterprises]

This is actually the type of fuel can I use.

http://www.scribnerplastics.com/advert1.htm

Can get the hose that screws into the top and can dump all five gallons in less than a minute.

[BHShaman]

... behonost don't want tobe calling Big Bubba "daddy" :(

With a nic like "Sweet Tater" it is almost inevitable.
And no, it is not illegal to ship them person to person into the State.
I'd be interested if you have a reasonable price with reasonable shipping.

[PR Fect]

The Scribner Plastics jugs look like the way to go if you can not get the old style Chilton Plastics cans. I have use a 5.5 gal Chilton and a 2.5 gal Chilton for mix gas for the last six years. They will need to be replaced soon. Tater, put me down for one if they are Chilton's. They where made less than a hour away from me and I can not find one to save my ass. PR

[BHShaman]

Tater, put me down for one if they are Chilton's. They where made less than a hour away from me and I can not find one to save my ass. PR

Chilton was bought out my Blitz.
They no longer make a manually vented plastic can.

[shortgrass01]

I agree the new gas cans are crap, the gas pressure builds up and blows off the top if it anit cliped on tight. has to be a way to poke out that baffle to make and even flow.

[BHShaman]

Is there no one out there that can get the older style B&S Can?
or any other manually vented (two hole) can?

[PR Fect]

Is there no one out there that can get the older style B&S Can?
or any other manually vented (two hole) can?

If you read the whole post, Tater found a few.

[JayD]

This is SO annoying. In my state it is illegal to sell the old style gas cans that worked perfectly. Some liberal environmental Bull Sh*t. Well, I bought a few "blitz" pieces of crap, the littlost all le yellow caps, and am now spilling more gas then ever. I really think one of you who lives in a state with out this ridiculous law should put the old style cans on E-bay... I would sure buy a few.

P.S.- I tried the web but they wont ship into my state. What a stupid F'ing law!!!!

This is scary the laws that are getting passed these days....the 10 commandments and that all we need. If God didn't want these gas cans he could of made it number 11. JMO

Those little yellow caps..........I HATE THEM!
I carry my cans in the back of my truck which has a lid on the bed, and if you leave the yellow cap in the position so that the can vent., then the cap always falls off. I like my old can that has a little snap-down flip-lid for its venting. Just can't seem to find those anymore.
What is every one using? Show pix if you have something good and that works better.
Thanks, Jay

[BHShaman]

If you read the whole post, Tater found a few.

Yes, but he also had not posted any pictures and it has been a month or so since then. Was refeshing the post and opening the question again. Thanks.

[Sweet Tater]

If you read the whole post, Tater found a few.

I bought 2 of them too. $6.95 a can. They only had 4 - 2 gal. right beside them were the blitz cans. its getting hard to find them here now. I am still looking for 5 gal cans.

sorry it took so long to repost, was trying to find some and help ya'll if i can :(

[deere615]

One of the guys I cut grass for has 3 old gas cans laying in the weeds next to his house, they are a little discolored but not dry rotted or anything. I asked him if I could have a 1 gallon one and he gave it to me. luckily I still have a 5 gallon one and a 2 1 gallon ones. I also have a 5 gallon blitz can, but only use that when I have too! I hate them!

[NMS0219]

Their is a small store around me that still has the old style cans, he has 2, 2.5 and 5 gal cans in stock.

[yardmanlee]

Their is a small store around me that still has the old style cans, he has 2, 2.5 and 5 gal cans in stock.

can he ship them ? I sure could use some spouts

[hdtvluvr]

Their is a small store around me that still has the old style cans, he has 2, 2.5 and 5 gal cans in stock.

Do they have the yellow flexible spouts or the white/clear ones? I would be interested in 2 of the 2.5 gal and 1 of the 5 gal cans.

If the store won't ship would you be willing to purchase and ship?

[BHShaman]

Don't suppose you can get a camera pic?
or post a picture off the web that shows exactly what they look like.
So far I've had 2 people send me cans they swore were 2 hole vented that were actually self venting non-carb.

[yardmanlee]

There is a pic of one on page 6 post #51 of the ones I am intrested in I'll take 2 1/2 gal and 2 5 gal. or some spouts for those type, let me know

thanks

[KTO Enterprises]

Some nice folks but they like rules and regs. I'm like Outback Steakhouse's attitude "no rules, just right".
Guess they get that from our Aussie friends. .
==
Is it laws galore over there Tacoma?

You have top have these laws here to protect the stupid from themselves. We have morons all the time put some sort of bad clearliquid in an old water bottle and some small kid ends up drinking it.

people are stupid and the stupid ones need to die.

[NMS0219]

yes those are the cans he has. I will go their tomorrow and see if he is willing to ship and how many and types he has.

[BHShaman]

My state has gone the new gas can style...
Self venting and CARB.

While my State requires a red can to draw gas at a station it is pretty easy to get around, including painting an off color can.

Red Jerry cans in US are $40-$70.

What do people think of this deal?
It seems an incredible deal at $15.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=356176

[hdtvluvr]

yes those are the cans he has. I will go their tomorrow and see if he is willing to ship and how many and types he has.

Looking forward to what you find out.

[Sweet Tater]

Mississippi has gone blitz now. I managed to find 3-1gal cans, 7-2 gal and a 5 gal deisel can. good for gas too just have to mark it. Sorry I got busy and couldnt get them earlier, but from talking to them they were gone when I first saw the first, last few.

[NMS0219]

I went to the hardware store today and all he has left are 2.5 gal and he has 10. He wants $35 each. He told me he was getting $80 each for the 5 gal cans. (kinda steep if you want my 2 cents) he wont ship just cash and carry.

[yardmanlee]

for that price he can keep them !! and I'll start checking yard sales on saturdays. thanks for checking

[Sweet Tater]

I went to the hardware store today and all he has left are 2.5 gal and he has 10. He wants $35 each. He told me he was getting $80 each for the 5 gal cans. (kinda steep if you want my 2 cents) he wont ship just cash and carry.

Holy moly Batman, the 2 gal was only 3 something at lowes yesturday

[BHShaman]

Holy moly Batman, the 2 gal was only 3 something at lowes yesturday

Price gouging based on perceived inability to procure.

[KTO Enterprises]

Price gouging based on perceived inability to procure.

That is not price gouging. If someone wants it that bad then they should have to pay his price. its called supply and demand.

Supply outweighs demand, prices come down.

demand outweighs supply, price goes up.

[BHShaman]

That is not price gouging. If someone wants it that bad then they should have to pay his price. its called supply and demand.

Supply outweighs demand, prices come down.

demand outweighs supply, price goes up.

Depends.
He said the store down the road had the same thing.
If it is indeed the same thing and one guy is charging $80 bucks and another $3, he is preying on peoples ignorance.

If it is old style vs new style and people are willing to pay 80 bucks.
More power to him.

[KTO Enterprises]

If it is indeed the same thing and one guy is charging $80 bucks and another $3, he is preying on peoples ignorance.


lol i say if someone is ignorant enough to pay 80 bucks for a gas can when one like it is up the street for three dollars, they deserve to be parted with 72 dollars.

I believe if they feel their can is worth 80 bucks regardless of what anyone else is selling it for, than they should be allowed to sell it for that.

Should I be prosecuted for price gouging when i charge 125-150 per hour on my tractor even though there are others in town who will work for 65 per hour?

[BHShaman]

Should I be prosecuted for price gouging when i charge 125-150 per hour on my tractor even though there are others in town who will work for 65 per hour?

Lets keep the analogy pertinent.
Would it be price gouging if you were doing the same level of price hike?
$3:$80
$65:$1733

What do you think?

[KTO Enterprises]

Lets keep the analogy pertinent.
Would it be price gouging if you were doing the same level of price hike?
$3:$80
$65:$1733

What do you think?

Heck id be pretty proud of myself if i got 1,733 per hour. haha

[razor1]

[QUOTE=BHShaman;1945936]Here is the list of Fuel Container CARB states and their compliance dates:
http://www.nospill.com/States_Compliance.htm

Figures MD was 3rd on the list. :angry: http://www.nospill.com/States_Compliance.htm

How about this for a potential biz opportunity, develop a kit to "add a vent" to those pita, vent free carb cans. :usflag:

[Sweet Tater]

Add a vent kit. includes one ice pick. place the vent anywhere you want it:)

[BHShaman]

Add a vent kit. includes one ice pick. place the vent anywhere you want it:)

What would you use to stop it up?
I don't know that I was want a bunch of gas cans with open holes sitting in my garage for the winter.
Especially when I light the pilot on the furnace.

[Sweet Tater]

you have heat in your shop?
dang I have to work a few in the cold, then run to the house to warm up, then back again lol
Do like dad always said, "stick a cork in it";)

[BHShaman]

you have heat in your shop?


Look for junked out trailer on its last legs.
Often the furnaces are still good and can be bought for a song.
Only force hot air, but better than nothing.

[KTO Enterprises]

I have a waste oil heater. lol heat for free.

[BHShaman]

The Scribner cans are labeled, "Not for use as a portable fuel container".
Screw it, getting a New Wedco NATO Jerry Can and Spout.
See if I like it and if so buy another set before they all go CARB nationwide.

[deere615]

The Scribner cans are labeled, "Not for use as a portable fuel container".
Screw it, getting a New Wedco NATO Jerry Can and Spout.
See if I like it and if so buy another set before they all go CARB nationwide.

I seen one of those wedco spouts the other day I might have to get one and see how I like it.

[Sweet Tater]

Look for junked out trailer on its last legs.
Often the furnaces are still good and can be bought for a song.
Only force hot air, but better than nothing.

I was joking and totaly off topic (sorry) but thats a good idea

[Common Ground]

i dont like the little yellow caps and all that. Why cant they just be simple functional gas cans again? these things blow up when they get hot and gas leaking out all over, im searchin for some ReaL gas cans.

[BHShaman]

Expensive yes.
But not much else out there for vented anymore.
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/DCP_1748340.jpg

The 20- and 10-liter jerrycans feature air chamber that sits above the height of the can's spout. Thus, the jerrycan cannot be overfilled unless the user specifically so desires and tilts the can while filling. The air chamber was designed so that it would house enough air that a jerrycan full of fuel will float if inadvertently dropped into water.

Each jerrycan also has design features on the inside that are not conspicuously visible to users. An air tube spans the distance from the mouth of the spout to the interior of the air chamber area at the top of the can. Thus, liquids pour smoothly from the mouth of the jerrycan without gurgling.

[DieselDeere]

These cans are awesome! The best I have ever found.
http://cgi.ebay.com/5-Gallon-HIGH-FLOW-Gas-Fuel-Can-Plastic-Gasoline-Jug

If the link does not work just enter the item number: 290171500010 in ebay.

[BHShaman]

These cans are awesome! The best I have ever found.
http://cgi.ebay.com/5-Gallon-HIGH-FLOW-Gas-Fuel-Can-Plastic-Gasoline-Jug

If the link does not work just enter the item number: 290171500010 in ebay.

VERY much like the Scribner Jug, are they DOT approved?
Rumors here of people getting citations for filling non DOT containers now that the State is watching due to CARB compliance.

[SouthernCutter]

haha, im still using the old style ones. haha, no one has said nothin to me yet, so ima keep on rockin until i get in trouble for it, when i get in trouble, i will sell most of them to anyone who watns em.

[jbell113]

To keep from losing the yellow caps I drilled holes in the sides of the caps and mounted lanyards.

[NJT]

Kinda makes you wonder who holds the patent to these so called "spillproof" cans.

Hmmmm.....

[OldRednek]

I liked those Rubbermaid gas cans because they were "squatty" in shape and didn't fall over like so many "tall ones". But you can't get them anymore, and even though I have several, three of the spouts are broken on them.
When you could still buy the cans, you could buy replacement spouts, but not anymore.
If any body knows where I can get them, please let me know. Besides, those spouts were longer than these new ones. A lot easier to use.

[yardmanlee]

I liked those Rubbermaid gas cans because they were "squatty" in shape and didn't fall over like so many "tall ones". But you can't get them anymore, and even though I have several, three of the spouts are broken on them.
When you could still buy the cans, you could buy replacement spouts, but not anymore.
If any body knows where I can get them, please let me know. Besides, those spouts were longer than these new ones. A lot easier to use.

same here i could use some of those spouts as well !!!

[Envy Lawn Service]

Hey guys... I was in another area and had the opportunity to go shopping. I happened to run across some Wedco VENTED cans with the flex spouts. I'm now thinking where you can and can't get them depends on what emissions phase the area is in?

I figured I'd better grab some, so I bought some and also bought extra accessory spouts with caps for all of them as well.

So what was the jury verdict on the Wedco vented cans?

[americanlawn]

Big DITTO. We buy gas cans like these at Menards, and the price is right. And since they're plastic, they're easier to lift. I'll be damned if I'm gunna spend forty bucks for a "OSHA approved" steel gas can. Steel cans corrode, get dents, and are heavy & cumbersome. And if they get moisture inside, rust ocurrs inside the can.......not good to pour into an engine.:hammerhead:

No offense to the guys buying those really expensive cans but I think ALL new gas cans are pure POS, the problem is the vent INSIDE the spout and the expensive cans apparently do little to relieve this problem other than they're made of steel and a few have a handle-pump whoop-dee-do they all blow LOL.

Thou I do like the long one with the nozzle and the hose coming out from underneath, that one looks promising, someone actually put some thought into that solution.

What exactly is it that made this law come into effect anyway, this stuff is as stupid as child proof lighters (which, by the way, only in the USA - europe has normal lighters)...

The ONLY good gas can is this one, nothing else compares:
... maybe I should offer 1 free grass cut (up to an acre normal height LOL) for any 1 of these LOL...
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/768013/2/istockphoto_768013_gas_can_1.jpg

[yardmanlee]

Big DITTO. We buy gas cans like these at Menards, and the price is right. And since they're plastic, they're easier to lift. I'll be damned if I'm gunna spend forty bucks for a "OSHA approved" steel gas can. Steel cans corrode, get dents, and are heavy & cumbersome. And if they get moisture inside, rust ocurrs inside the can.......not good to pour into an engine.:hammerhead:

Americanlawn ? you can still buy these new ?

[OldRednek]

Big DITTO. We buy gas cans like these at Menards, and the price is right. And since they're plastic, they're easier to lift. I'll be damned if I'm gunna spend forty bucks for a "OSHA approved" steel gas can. Steel cans corrode, get dents, and are heavy & cumbersome. And if they get moisture inside, rust ocurrs inside the can.......not good to pour into an engine.:hammerhead:
Do you sell these cans???
Aj

[GravelyNut]

Think I'll go buy a couple more of the B&S ones as they won't be around much longer either. And then fit them with the Blitz nozzles. :D

[yardmanlee]

can you still buy them down there ?

[GravelyNut]

can you still buy them down there ?
Only what I know we have in stock. :( I'll check Monday and see if we can still get them from a distributor. I bought a new 2.5 gallon one last week. :) I hate the flex nozzles but love the vent. The one like topsite posted is/was the best type in my opinion too. Have one of those too. Only one that fills the tank of a Professional 8 Gravely without problems.

[yardmanlee]

I have some like what he posted but I need the spouts for them

[Envy Lawn Service]

Think I'll go buy a couple more of the B&S ones as they won't be around much longer either. And then fit them with the Blitz nozzles. :D

Hummm....

I wonder if the old yellow blitz nozzles will fit my new Wedco cans?

I haven't used the Wedco's yet, so they seem OK to me now.
But they are NOT as good as the old Blitz containers like pictured above.
Neither the nozzle nor the vent setup.
I can tell just looking...

I only bought the Wedco's because I happened across them and they were vented, which I have not seen for sale in a while...

[GravelyNut]

We still have 20 of the B&S 2.5 gallons in stock. 6 of the B&S 4 piece kits for the cans ( push on spout cap ). 1 Versaflex-CR spouts ( screw on spout cap ). And 3 Multipack-CR kits for Wedcos. No 5 gallon ones at present.

[tamadrummer]

I was lucky enough to find an old Gott 2.5 gal can on the side of the road today. The spout is broken but the can is still in good shape.

[Envy Lawn Service]

Hummm....

I wonder if the old yellow blitz nozzles will fit my new Wedco cans?

I haven't used the Wedco's yet, so they seem OK to me now.
But they are NOT as good as the old Blitz containers like pictured above.
Neither the nozzle nor the vent setup.
I can tell just looking...

I only bought the Wedco's because I happened across them and they were vented, which I have not seen for sale in a while...

The answer to the nozzle swap is NO... I forgot to come back and add that...

I used one of the Wedco's just a little and I like it OK.
It's not as simple to use as the snap-off caps on the old Blitz containers.
But it works and does not leak, etc...
No idea how they work in hot weather yet though.

[mx495]

How about this for a potential biz opportunity, develop a kit to "add a vent" to those pita, vent free carb cans.

I drilled a hole and put a tire valve stem in it with no valve core. Use the cap to the valve stem to vent/unvent. Works better than the old ones now.

[chickweed]

Try using the small V8 bottles you can get at the store. They fit perfectly over the spout so water doesn't get in but not tootight so they still breath. Not as good as a better can but it works.

[hdtvluvr]

I drilled a hole and put a tire valve stem in it with no valve core. Use the cap to the valve stem to vent/unvent. Works better than the old ones now.


What size hole did you have to drill? Any photos?

[DiyDave]

For tubeless valves, I believe there are 2 sizes: .410" and .625". Correct me if I am mistaken.:waving:

[mx495]

I'll have to check what size I used and try to get a pic.

[mx495]

Here are some pics. I modified the nozzle on my cans also. I looked at the size hole I drilled and already forgot.:confused: I'm almost positive it was 1/2"

[CrystalCreek]

i have those same cans. I drilled a 1/4 inch hole into the top at the same location. instead of using a stem, i broke a water gun from the dollar store. It cost only a dollar, LOL:laugh: Stick the little cap into the hole and presto, vented can. I like this method because it only sticks up about an 1/8 of an inch. Has worked wonders and may be quicker than screwing or unscrewing a threaded cap.

[PR Fect]

MX 495, that's a dam good idea! I see you replaced the fill hose also. I will be doing the same to my " safety " " no spill " cans. Thanks for the tip!

[mx495]

I replaced the hose just because the caps always pop off and the nozzle has the self venting tube in it so only half of it is open.

[GravelyNut]

Stopped in at a local NAPA dealer today. 5 gallon cans made by Michigan Can Company with flex spouts and vents in stock. Non CARB! :D
Looked like these. http://www.napaonline.com/NOLViewer/Pages/Detail.aspx?R=72803&ShowPics=1

[TurfCo, LLC]

Here are a couple of links... just go to amazon.com and search for gas cans. Maybe you can find some.

http://www.amazon.com/Gas-Can/dp/B000HEBYZ4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1202712396&sr=1-6

http://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-Gal-Fuel-Can/dp/B0007M4VR4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1202712466&sr=1-7

[TurfCo, LLC]

And replacement spouts. Not sure how many you can get.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TYER5Q/ref=s9_asin_image_1-2717_g1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=103PESMZXSV7VBPW9G7T&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=292859101&pf_rd_i=507846

[atv220chris]

the thing that makes me mad is that you can not just buy the little yellow caps

[deere615]

I just fixed my can. I did what someone else said, drilled a hole, then used the plug from a squirt gun, which is nice because it won't fall out. Got 2 squirt guns for a buck. Squirt gun still works too, just don't hold it upside down!
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[Envy Lawn Service]

Here are some pics. I modified the nozzle on my cans also. I looked at the size hole I drilled and already forgot.:confused: I'm almost positive it was 1/2"

I just fixed my can. I did what someone else said, drilled a hole, then used the plug from a squirt gun, which is nice because it won't fall out. Got 2 squirt guns for a buck. Squirt gun still works too, just don't hold it upside down!
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Guys... my big gripe is the cans swell when warm and then cave in when they cool down.

How would you two say your venting methods have effected that?

[NWALAWNS]

I drilled a very small hole in the yellow lid of the spout that allows the can to vent, it prevents the can from swelling and caving in. You can also use a nail to punch the lid for a vent.

I like the squirt gun vent idea for pouring the gas, that is true American ingenuity!

[topsites]

Daaaaaaaayum that is slick, I like that squirt gun idea, the only problem
I see is certain plastics don't do well around fuel...

Wonder if one can just buy the little plugs in bulk, say packs of 5, 10 or 20...

Then again, 12 for $1.79 (can't attest for the plug part thou)
http://www.esticker.com/zoomprod.cfm?currentstartrow=1&winsize=30&show=1&CFID=2025672&CFTOKEN=18013142&sort=1&search_action=search&productid=159866&search_name=159866&stype=1

Here's another, 12+ a quarter a piece:
http://www.centurynovelty.com/detail_83_163-1011.html?mr:trackingCode=F962C3CA-FA81-DE11-B712-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA

...+shipping

[DiyDave]

If you go way back, to the start of this thread, you will see there is another plug you can use, and its a little more secure, just drill a .410" hole, in the handle, like in the picture of the squirt gun cap, stick a coat hanger through this hole, over to the spout hole, insert a rubber valve stem, sans the schrader valve core, pull the valve stem over to the hole, and use a valve stem puller that threads onto where the cap would go, and snap the valve stem into place. All you have to do is to loosen or remove the valve cap, to break the vacuum, and you don't have to worry about it falling out and getting lost.

[Grass Man]

.... If it is NOT too inconvenient, could you show us a pic or two of the finished product.:)

Thanks


If you go way back, to the start of this thread, you will see there is another plug you can use, and its a little more secure, just drill a .410" hole, in the handle, like in the picture of the squirt gun cap, stick a coat hanger through this hole, over to the spout hole, insert a rubber valve stem, sans the schrader valve core, pull the valve stem over to the hole, and use a valve stem puller that threads onto where the cap would go, and snap the valve stem into place. All you have to do is to loosen or remove the valve cap, to break the vacuum, and you don't have to worry about it falling out and getting lost.

[DiyDave]

.... If it is NOT too inconvenient, could you show us a pic or two of the finished product.:)

Thanks


If you go way back, to the start of this thread, you will see there is another plug you can use, and its a little more secure, just drill a .410" hole, in the handle, like in the picture of the squirt gun cap, stick a coat hanger through this hole, over to the spout hole, insert a rubber valve stem, sans the schrader valve core, pull the valve stem over to the hole, and use a valve stem puller that threads onto where the cap would go, and snap the valve stem into place. All you have to do is to loosen or remove the valve cap, to break the vacuum, and you don't have to worry about it falling out and getting lost.
Actually, it wasn't at the start of this thread, it was post# 140, lets see if i can link:http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=160710&page=14

[weve]

Here's a thread from Nov. 2008 with info on inserting a vent.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=251551&highlight=vent+modification

[MikeKle]

IF anyones interested, I have 2 of the 5 gallon older type with the flexible spout and the rear vent with cap, one is red, one is blue, they are in brand new condition, as I bought them and never used them. As long as you pay to ship them, you can have them. Just PM me if interested. I do not use 5 gallon cans anymore, I have two 2 gallon cans, one is for 2 stroke mix, the other is for reg gas. and one of them is the older type can. I got lucky..a customer had one he didnt want, so he gave it to me!! But my mix can is the blitz type. IF you want the older type,try flea markets, or try asking people you know, youd be surprised how many people still have these types and do not use them.