Organic compliance

[kelmcwalk]

Hi all
I was just wondering about your thoughts on OMRI and NOP.
Thanks Kelly

[Norm Al]

seems like they have a good money making deal set up.

[kelmcwalk]

Well that is the understatement of the decade lol. More to my point or question was the point as a user of products listed by OMRI or registered in complience with NOP do you feel that if it has an OMRI label or is listed by OMRI then do you feel you are safe to tell your customer that it is truely an organic product? the question arises because in all actuality OMRI doesn't run in strict complience with the NOP.
Also do you feel that a product that has OMRI listing is a value added weapon in your organic's program? NOP lregistered product?
I understand to be able to claim organic in areas you must have something but both, either or something else?
Thanks all
Kelly

[Norm Al]

their stamp of aproval does not mean the product actually works.

its a stamp of approval to make people feel warm and fuzzy and for use as a marketing tool.

having epa exemption is proof enough for a professional that the product is truly organic.

[kelmcwalk]

"having epa exemption is proof enough for a professional that the product is truly organic."
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When you say this please explain what you mean? What type of products are you refering to? Thanks Kelly

[Prolawnservice]

"having epa exemption is proof enough for a professional that the product is truly organic."
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When you say this please explain what you mean? What type of products are you refering to? Thanks Kelly

EPA 25B Exemptions

1) Exempted products. Products containing the following active ingredients are exempt from the requirements of FIFRA, alone or in combination with other substances listed in this paragraph, provided that all of the criteria of this section are met.

Castor oil (U.S.P. or equivalent)
Cedar oil
Cinnamon and cinnamon oil
Citric acid
Citronella and Citronella oil
Cloves and clove oil
Corn gluten meal
Corn oil
Cottonseed oil
Dried Blood
Eugenol
Garlic and garlic oil
Geraniol
Geranium oil
Lauryl sulfate
Lemongrass oil
Linseed oil
Malic acid
Mint and mint oil
Peppermint and peppermint oil
2-Phenethyl propionate (2-phenylethyl propionate)
Potassium sorbate
Putrescent whole egg solids
Rosemary and rosemary oil
Sesame (includes ground sesame plant) and sesame oil
Sodium chloride (common salt)
Sodium lauryl sulfate
Soybean oil
Thyme and thyme oil
White pepper
Zinc metal strips (consisting solely of zinc metal and impurities)

http://www.epa.gov/oppbppd1/biopesticides/regtools/25b_list.htm

[timturf]

EPA 25B Exemptions

1) Exempted products. Products containing the following active ingredients are exempt from the requirements of FIFRA, alone or in combination with other substances listed in this paragraph, provided that all of the criteria of this section are met.

Castor oil (U.S.P. or equivalent)
Cedar oil
Cinnamon and cinnamon oil
Citric acid
Citronella and Citronella oil
Cloves and clove oil
Corn gluten meal
Corn oil
Cottonseed oil
Dried Blood
Eugenol
Garlic and garlic oil
Geraniol
Geranium oil
Lauryl sulfate
Lemongrass oil
Linseed oil
Malic acid
Mint and mint oil
Peppermint and peppermint oil
2-Phenethyl propionate (2-phenylethyl propionate)
Potassium sorbate
Putrescent whole egg solids
Rosemary and rosemary oil
Sesame (includes ground sesame plant) and sesame oil
Sodium chloride (common salt)
Sodium lauryl sulfate
Soybean oil
Thyme and thyme oil
White pepper
Zinc metal strips (consisting solely of zinc metal and impurities)

http://www.epa.gov/oppbppd1/biopesticides/regtools/25b_list.htm

That's one organic I prefer NOT to use

[cedarcroft]

I have heard conflicting reports on the restrictions regarding garlic juice as a mosquito repellent. do you need a pesticide license to spray Garlic juice?

[Prolawnservice]

I have heard conflicting reports on the restrictions regarding garlic juice as a mosquito repellent. do you need a pesticide license to spray Garlic juice?

That's debatable on both counts, garlic does effect insects, neighbors, anything within smelling range. If the wind is blowing the right way and its been damp, chances are the sketters will still be able to annoy you. I think it helps but its not a cure all end all solution. Licensing depends on your states laws.

[Prolawnservice]

That's one organic I prefer NOT to use

Yes, I not very fond of items that end in chloride either, but for some reason they put it on the list.:confused: