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oOTurfmanoO
10-26-2006, 05:07 PM
17.5 square feet, wide open
Line trim around home and nothing more
weekly mowing, trim, blow, and go.


Your price.


I am only asking b/c when I found out what the guy/LCO does this for I was amazed.

I know the size b/c they are fert clients of mine.

dcgreenspro
10-26-2006, 05:12 PM
Probably 38-45 depending on it's location to other clients.

LawnScapers of Dayton
10-26-2006, 05:19 PM
$36-$40

That is a great lawn....wide open and easy......

dcgreenspro
10-26-2006, 05:21 PM
well, how much???????/

oOTurfmanoO
10-26-2006, 05:21 PM
Yeah, it's a wide open property. Never anything in the lawn as far as toys or anything. It's in a sub-division. I have three fert clients in there close to eachother.

Homeowner told me she pays $27/week

dcgreenspro
10-26-2006, 05:27 PM
the guy eithier has 10 clients in the subdivision or he hasn't learned the cost of doing his business yet.

DBL
10-26-2006, 05:28 PM
whats the back yard like

oOTurfmanoO
10-26-2006, 05:42 PM
whats the back yard like


Backyard is pic #2

SSS 18734
10-26-2006, 06:06 PM
$35 would do it. Nice and flat, almost no trimming. I'd be done in no time.

logan
10-26-2006, 06:06 PM
I would charge 130 every month. For Florida pricing, that is about 40 bucks per cut.

ProLawns
10-26-2006, 06:43 PM
I would charge 130 every month. For Florida pricing, that is about 40 bucks per cut.
130/mth is 30$/cut, there's 4.33 weeks in a month. I would charge 40 or 45.

stuffdeer
10-26-2006, 06:47 PM
$35 bucks. Looks Easy.

KS_Grasscutter
10-26-2006, 06:54 PM
Looks like about $30 a cut, around here...

dfor
10-26-2006, 06:56 PM
Minimum of $35, but I'm leaning more towards $40 (without bagging)

Green Grass
10-26-2006, 07:02 PM
with the price of fuel and everything now we don't show up for less then $35 unless there are a couple homes next to each other

ALarsh
10-26-2006, 07:03 PM
I'd do it for $34, if it is next to another account.

Woody82986
10-26-2006, 07:18 PM
$45 if I don't have anything really close. $40 if I have another client in the area.

horticulturedawg
10-26-2006, 07:19 PM
$65 per cut.

surgeon83
10-26-2006, 07:32 PM
So for the prices you're all giving, would you double cut or just single cut like the current lco? I used to double cut or "crosshatch" about 90% of my lawns, as I thought it was pretty much the standard.

ALarsh
10-26-2006, 07:36 PM
I only double cut if it is absolutely necessary.

oOTurfmanoO
10-26-2006, 07:42 PM
$65 per cut.


I like this price. $27.00 seems low for mowing a 17,500 square foot lawn

zima
10-26-2006, 07:54 PM
$ 50 Weekly

dcgreenspro
10-26-2006, 07:56 PM
that lawn isn't even a half acre for 65? if you can get that, you are my new hero:)

fiveoboy01
10-26-2006, 08:08 PM
40-45/cut.

Idealtim
10-26-2006, 08:09 PM
$35.00. Easy as that.

dKoester
10-26-2006, 08:15 PM
40 per week

Uranus
10-26-2006, 08:17 PM
Holy crap. I looked at the pics and then got a price in my head before reading other post. I'd be in the 50-55 at a minimum. I guess I wouldn't get it if I was bidding against anyone who posted before me. We get the low prices like that to up here. I gave this hottie a price of 35 buck and she laughed at me. Then told me she pays 18 bucks a week now. Must be nice to be out there and working for cash. Hope those guys never get caught.

Jnamo
10-26-2006, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't slow down in front of that house for less than $35.00- Even if I did cut the neighbor.

$27-lowballer

stuffdeer
10-26-2006, 08:49 PM
I only double cut if it is absolutely necessary.

I agree ^

Matts lawn care
10-26-2006, 09:17 PM
$40 no less

Runner
10-26-2006, 09:37 PM
It would go for about 35 a cut, here. 40 if the edging was included. I charge seperate for the edging, so their statement would have like 4 35 dollar mowing & trims on it (all itemizedby date, of course), and 20 for the edging (done every other week).
Total.... $160 per month (depending on how the weks fold out - some statemnts may have 5 cuts on them).

MattsMowing3535
10-26-2006, 09:50 PM
I have a lawn just down the street. Its around 15,000 sq feet (maybe 12,500) but the back yard is a hill all the way down to a tree line that is about as far as you can go on a commen ZTR. almost no trimming. I'm 15 had a 21" Though id be nice cuase he was just down the street and said 28 dollers (low but he was a nice guy) He told me thats crazy! I pay 20 dollers for them to come out now!

KS_Grasscutter
10-26-2006, 10:14 PM
So for the prices you're all giving, would you double cut or just single cut like the current lco? I used to double cut or "crosshatch" about 90% of my lawns, as I thought it was pretty much the standard.

I basically never double cut, as i bag everything. The only time i double cut is going over leaves twice in the heavier areas.

ccl
10-26-2006, 10:29 PM
With two 60" mowers we could have that lawn mowed and trimmed in 20 min. tops. Here I would probably get $35 for that yard.

Mr.Mow-It-All
10-26-2006, 11:47 PM
With two 60" mowers we could have that lawn mowed and trimmed in 20 min. tops. Here I would probably get $35 for that yard.

Shouldn't take 2 of them. Have one almost identical to that and takes 3 of us 12 min. I mow with the 60", one mows the 350 sqft back yard, one edges, trims, and both employess blow wile I do paperwork for next stop 12 min tops. That is 36 man min. $47, if she wants it bagged its is $62. Only bagged it 3 times this year at her request, with the walker it took us a total of 20min.

TPLawnPro
10-27-2006, 12:56 AM
Nice property by the way.

Down here, no less than $45. That's mowing, trimming, regardless of edging it weekly or not. We edge each account every time it is serviced. If the propery does not require edging for some reason, which is extremely rare, we will then provide the customer with another service in place of edging, such as hedge trimming or something along those lines.

Based on a weekly schedule, I just couldn't leave a yard un-edged every other week of it being serviced. I wouldn't want to give people driving by, watching us working, the impression to think that we were skimping from week to week by not edging one week and then edging the next.

Also, if I had to constantly adjust prices for accounts, discounting one service and then having to re-adjust service prices all the time, it would drive me nutz. I have an agreeable minimum price set for each account, and then additional services cost extra.

The only discounts that we offer is one free annual cut for the homeowner's birthday. (One person per household.) And then there are a few folks living on a fixed income (disability, etc.), so we are glad to help them.

topsites
10-27-2006, 02:19 AM
No less than $35, but really I'd like $40...

Technically, it's 0.4 acres so it falls between 35-40 but the existing stripes are a silent witness...

I want a neat criss-cross design for this beautiful landscape so at least a standard double cut but really tri-to-quad cuts would do it.
Ok, I can double-cut it with the dual kit mower, but that slows me down all the same.

There's something wrong with the color as well, I won't delve into it other than it would likely cost the customer only slightly more to hire me at $40 / cut than to allow this to continue. Either way, right around $700-$800 / year or so for me.

Richard Martin
10-27-2006, 04:26 AM
In Maryland I would have gotten $45 to $50 a cut for that lawn. Down here in NC I don't know. Probably $35 to $40.

noseha
10-27-2006, 05:01 AM
Minimum of $35, but I'm leaning more towards $40 (without bagging)
ya,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

lawnguyland
10-27-2006, 07:07 AM
That size lawn around here would be in the 60$ range give or take a few $. That lawn is as big as 5 or 6 $20ish lawns, but no travel time and it's easy. Still around $60. The house would be in the millions of dollars if it were in Nassau Co.

robby
10-27-2006, 08:21 AM
I'm curious as to HOW LONG it would take the average guy, cutting by himself, to do this yard? When asked how much they try and gross an hour, I see some here have said around one dollar a minute minimum. I've got yards this size that take me 30 minutes total time. I still dont see how this yard would take 20 minutes for 2 guys on 60"s. I guess if you are taking the time to run an edger and trimmer both. I would charge $30 for the yard. If grossing $60 an hour makes me a lowballer, I guess I qualify!

LawnScapers of Dayton
10-27-2006, 08:23 AM
I would estimate 30 minutes for me total....

horticulturedawg
10-27-2006, 08:44 AM
It is to our advantage that we spent upwards of $10000 for just the mower to mow clients' lawns. If the homeowner were to mow it himself with a 20" mower (weekly) I would think it would take a couple of hours. Accountants, lawyers and doctors do not lower their rates because they have the equipment to get it done faster and with better quality. You pay for the equipment they use, make your customers pay for the equipment you use.

I did not buy ztrs, walk behinds, trucks, hand tools, etc, so I could give people a good deal...make 'em pay for what they are getting. That is a pretty large yard compared to lots in my service area and we charge upwards of $75-$80 per service for much much smaller properties.

Beau Rivage
10-27-2006, 08:55 AM
40 to 45...but I'm solo...

Frontier-Lawn
10-27-2006, 09:49 AM
i would ask for $45

fiveoboy01
10-27-2006, 11:15 AM
It is to our advantage that we spent upwards of $10000 for just the mower to mow clients' lawns. If the homeowner were to mow it himself with a 20" mower (weekly) I would think it would take a couple of hours. Accountants, lawyers and doctors do not lower their rates because they have the equipment to get it done faster and with better quality. You pay for the equipment they use, make your customers pay for the equipment you use.

I did not buy ztrs, walk behinds, trucks, hand tools, etc, so I could give people a good deal...make 'em pay for what they are getting. That is a pretty large yard compared to lots in my service area and we charge upwards of $75-$80 per service for much much smaller properties.

Exactly.

If the customer is OK with paying X dollars for a service, it matters not if it takes 2 hours or 10 minutes to perform the work.

All that matters is that the customer is not having to do the work.

I can't see how anyone could go less than 40 for this yard.

I've got one in town, it's 9,900 square feet including the house and drive footprint, and I get 30 for that...

dave k
10-27-2006, 12:43 PM
In my area, 45 to 50 bucks, going solo, nice pic's. I'd say the client is getting a deal, hope the LCO is on her Xmas card list, speaking of Xmas, does anyone get gifts from their customers? I had one, thats it, Cheap huh....
Dave

horticulturedawg
10-27-2006, 03:24 PM
What does it matter if it is done solo or not? Why should that affect the price? Can not be overhead, insurance and licensing should be the same. How and why would a solo operator be cheaper?

Ric3077
10-27-2006, 03:37 PM
$45 at least...it is worth it to the customer that lawn would take a homeowner several hours with their equipment...it would take me about 30 minutes...find her LCO and sub work to him

rodfather
10-27-2006, 03:54 PM
Put a WAM on it and be back on the road in 10 minutes or less :laugh:

fyshstykr
10-27-2006, 04:01 PM
I would put that in the 45.00/50.00 range in my neck o da woods.:dancing:

robby
10-27-2006, 04:03 PM
What does it matter if it is done solo or not? Why should that affect the price? Can not be overhead, insurance and licensing should be the same. How and why would a solo operator be cheaper?
I was curious as to how long it would take the avg solo guy to mow, to figure out how much they must be expecting to make hourly. So if it is a 30 minute job for a solo guy, then those guys charging $45+ are looking to make $90+ an hour. Personally I dont think the work I do is worth $90+ an hour. I guess I am leaving money on the table by underpricing my yards, but charging $60 an hour for such easy work seems more than fair to me. In general, solo operators, I would think, would probably be priced a tad cheaper than larger crews. I think that 1 guy is generally more efficient than a 3 man crew, at least based on what I've seen and read here. Maybe I'm just comparing myself to others I've seen. I guess as well that there are those solo guys who dilly dally around and arent very speedy.

horticulturedawg
10-27-2006, 04:51 PM
I was more referring to the service product. The product is the same no matter who does the work. Why would a solo operator charge less? That's just plain crazy!! Your customers don't care about you. In fact, they really think very little of you. Why on earth would you not get as much of their money as possible? This is a business you are trying to make as much money as the market will bear. period.

Beau Rivage
10-27-2006, 04:59 PM
What does it matter if it is done solo or not? Why should that affect the price? Can not be overhead, insurance and licensing should be the same. How and why would a solo operator be cheaper?

Actually, I was higher than some of those that posted ahead of me. As a solo, it would take me longer and also because in this neck of the woods that's about what a crew would charge her. I can work for less (per hour anyway) because my overhead is less...(no employees). If I don't bid it the sameish, I won't have any biz. I just can't do as many in a day...well...large accts. anyway.

Rodfather...nice Jihad name.:cool:

Total.Lawn.Care
10-27-2006, 05:03 PM
I do not drop my ramp for less than $40. By myself, that yard would take me 30-45 minutes and I charge every customer as though they are the only ones in my area. I add about 15 minutes to every job to account for my travel time, so yeah, i want to make money and this would be a $50 yard for me. Weekly cuts on my service agreements, $2150 annually. But I have some extras that I do for service agreement customers that I do not charge for.

shane mapes
10-27-2006, 05:05 PM
17.5 square feet, wide open
Line trim around home and nothing more
weekly mowing, trim, blow, and go.


Your price.


I am only asking b/c when I found out what the guy/LCO does this for I was amazed.

I know the size b/c they are fert clients of mine.
in northern ca.your looking at $50.00 -$75.00 a week includes fert. and trimming

Beau Rivage
10-27-2006, 05:14 PM
I do not drop my ramp for less than $40... I have some extras that I do for service agreement customers that I do not charge for.


I was thinking of doing the same thing...Do you mind if I ask what all you do extra?? I see you're from Savannah...I'm envious.:drinkup: Took the wifey there for a few weeks several years ago...It looks a lot like New Orleans..(with out the crime:laugh: )

prostriper
10-27-2006, 05:31 PM
Put a WAM on it and be back on the road in 10 minutes or less :laugh:


Come on now Rod thats a little overkill, don't you think? I'd say $40, $55-$60 with bagging. $15 for the edging. One person should be able to do it in 30-35 min. if they don't waste any time.

oOTurfmanoO
10-27-2006, 05:49 PM
This turned out to be a pretty good thread.

When posting the original, I thought this would be a great measure of how people from all over price lawns. I gave pics, dimensions, and line trimming expectations.

Lots of good feedback and a lot to learn about different business philosophies.

LTS Lawncare
10-28-2006, 12:36 AM
I have read all the replys and realizied that there is no true pricing except what the market will bare, in my area there is also the consideration of reputation and quailty of work. We would get 55-65 for this job including edging, trimming and blowing. I have started trying to lead all customers to "Full Service" which includes trees. hedges, flowerbeds, fertilizer. then the price would go up to $75 trip. on 37 trip per year=230.00 mo. People are receptive to this if they understand what they are getting and can see the results in others yards.
If you can sell ice cubes to eskimoes then you can sell lawn care

Big Bad Bob
10-28-2006, 01:10 AM
No less than $35, but really I'd like $40...

Technically, it's 0.4 acres so it falls between 35-40 but the existing stripes are a silent witness...

I want a neat criss-cross design for this beautiful landscape so at least a standard double cut but really tri-to-quad cuts would do it.
Ok, I can double-cut it with the dual kit mower, but that slows me down all the same.

There's something wrong with the color as well, I won't delve into it other than it would likely cost the customer only slightly more to hire me at $40 / cut than to allow this to continue. Either way, right around $700-$800 / year or so for me.





i'm guessing that the customer only wanted to pay $27.00 so the very most they get is single stripes. Absolutely no double cut or trimming on that lawn for $27.00.:nono:

Big Bad Bob
10-28-2006, 01:17 AM
I was curious as to how long it would take the avg solo guy to mow, to figure out how much they must be expecting to make hourly. So if it is a 30 minute job for a solo guy, then those guys charging $45+ are looking to make $90+ an hour. Personally I dont think the work I do is worth $90+ an hour. I guess I am leaving money on the table by underpricing my yards, but charging $60 an hour for such easy work seems more than fair to me. In general, solo operators, I would think, would probably be priced a tad cheaper than larger crews. I think that 1 guy is generally more efficient than a 3 man crew, at least based on what I've seen and read here. Maybe I'm just comparing myself to others I've seen. I guess as well that there are those solo guys who dilly dally around and arent very speedy.




easy work? do you not deal with all the same headaches we all deal with as business owners? do you not work far beyond the 5 oclock buzzer doing paperwork and field work during peak season? i want to make as much as possible and i will work hard to earn it. that's why i'm doing this. if it were just for the recreation i would hire out to another lco and avoid all the crap. .:headphones:

RICHIE K
10-28-2006, 07:04 AM
$40.00

Richie K

www.kulakandcompany.com :)

MysticLandscape
10-28-2006, 08:38 AM
I would tell them $45-50

lawnman_scott
10-28-2006, 08:45 AM
130/mth is 30$/cut, there's 4.33 weeks in a month. I would charge 40 or 45.He said Florida Pricing. We mow every week in summer and every other in winter. So It is actually $39 per cut.

robby
10-28-2006, 08:46 AM
easy work? do you not deal with all the same headaches we all deal with as business owners? do you not work far beyond the 5 oclock buzzer doing paperwork and field work during peak season? i want to make as much as possible and i will work hard to earn it. that's why i'm doing this. if it were just for the recreation i would hire out to another lco and avoid all the crap. .:headphones:
I guess I still think back to the days when I used to work on a farm and pull weeds for $1.50 an hour. Makes mowing for $60 an hour seem pretty lucrative! I realize that I am priced cheaper than most, but I really dont feel the need to squeeze every last dollar out of every account. I'm just a guy out havin some fun, cuttin grass. I really dont see mowing as much of a hassle. I do way less side work now and just pretty much stick to mowing. I rarely have received customer complaints. I rarely get customers who dont pay. I keep the same customers year after year. Not much left to worry about, but just waking up 3-4 days a week to go mow them. I avg only 30 hours a week now, so it almost feels like recreation. I hope to be able to retire within the next ten years but I most likely will continue to keep 20 or 30 accounts just to have something to do, to get out and enjoy the fresh air.

fiveoboy01
10-28-2006, 12:33 PM
i'm guessing that the customer only wanted to pay $27.00 so the very most they get is single stripes. Absolutely no double cut or trimming on that lawn for $27.00.:nono:

I wouldn't even single-cut that lawn for 27 bucks.

dcgreenspro
10-28-2006, 12:42 PM
neithier would i. won't drop the gate for less than 35 on any lawn, no matter how small.

Big Bad Bob
10-28-2006, 05:49 PM
I guess I still think back to the days when I used to work on a farm and pull weeds for $1.50 an hour. Makes mowing for $60 an hour seem pretty lucrative! I realize that I am priced cheaper than most, but I really dont feel the need to squeeze every last dollar out of every account. I'm just a guy out havin some fun, cuttin grass. I really dont see mowing as much of a hassle. I do way less side work now and just pretty much stick to mowing. I rarely have received customer complaints. I rarely get customers who dont pay. I keep the same customers year after year. Not much left to worry about, but just waking up 3-4 days a week to go mow them. I avg only 30 hours a week now, so it almost feels like recreation. I hope to be able to retire within the next ten years but I most likely will continue to keep 20 or 30 accounts just to have something to do, to get out and enjoy the fresh air.


yeah, I remember baling hay and throwing the bales on the wagon by hand, and unloading them into the loft for 50 cents an hour. I remember a soda and a snickers for a quarter. I remember 35 cent gas. I remember a lot of things but I don't run my business on memories. I run it on what i need to earn and what the market will bear right now.
I only wish I was rich enough to consider it recreation but the I sure as hell wouldn't be in this business.

jsf343
10-28-2006, 06:04 PM
Interesting to see what people charge. I would agree with the $45.00 to $55.00 crowd. We have one that is very similar in size, no trim, mostly mulching and we get $50.00 a shot. Can't see even dropping the gate for under $35.00 yet alone $27.00!

punk_rockin2001
10-28-2006, 06:19 PM
I would charge $30-$35 for that yard. That would take about 25 minutes if you mowed trimmed and blew it all off? At least w/a larger zero turn.