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tulipgrove
11-02-2006, 10:19 AM
Need help....12 acres of turf, mostly flat, open, very minor edging as most are asphalt no curbs. Cuurently Brickamn does 5 men, 2 days (1 ZTR, two w/b) I came from Large company in Bowie, they were 150-180 acre. At 22/man hr i come to 1760 cut, includes trimming, edging, cut, blow, bed weeding. Sounds high, but i KNOW Complete, Lastings are getting these numbers. Waht do you think? Also 200 yd mulch, prune 2x yr (211 units, 5 min each, and 1 apt bldg, 3 guys 3 hrs) Apprecaite any help, just looking for some feedback.

dcgreenspro
11-02-2006, 10:27 AM
that doesn't sound right. 12 acres open, mostly flat= 2 days? This isn't right. I could do 12 acres by myslef in 1/4 of the time. Somebody nomally says that they will come in with a wam and chrge 20/acre. JMO

AintNoFun
11-02-2006, 12:15 PM
$22 a man hour are you kidding? Are you in biz to make money or work for free?


At 22/man hr i come to 1760 cut

DBL
11-02-2006, 12:25 PM
just for the cut i would charge $60/acre that comes out to i think $720 a cut dont have one that big 3 guys can bang out a 6 acre church in about 2 hours

PLM-1
11-02-2006, 12:33 PM
We do a 14 acre townhouse HOA that takes 2 of us 9 hours. Edging, trimming, mowing and blowing for a little over $500 and i was the middle bidder. Each house has its own drive way which equals a lot of edging. If we just mow it, 1 guy can mow the entire thing in 4 hours. Here is a link to a pic of it, although it is only partial, this is the main part. http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=128359

tulipgrove
11-02-2006, 02:20 PM
$60 per acre? Gas in DC will be 3.75, My labor will be Foreman of 15hr, Asst of 11hr, three labor of 9-10hr....This place is Hihg end (senator retirerment village) 12 acres, mostly flat, 1 lake 2.3 mile of trails to be mainttained. High detail, blow as soon as cut (not end of day) $60 per acre??? my labor cost per day will be around 500, fuel 75, insurance, phone, advertising, repairs you have got to be kidding about 720 per cut......most companies here get 600 day MINIMUN for three man crew...1760/2=880. No way can do for 720 a cut.

tulipgrove
11-02-2006, 02:23 PM
[QUOTE=dcgreenspro]that doesn't sound right. 12 acres open, mostly flat= 2 I could do 12 acres by myslef in 1/4 of the time.

Really???? 12 acres in 1/4 of 16 hrs....4 hrs for 12 acres??? Ive never seen it, not a good job anyway, this isnt mow and go...

fearthedeere
11-02-2006, 04:08 PM
3 acres per hour is feasible with just one mower with flat land and not many obstacles. I'll give you the fact that you have to worry about all the other maintenance stuff, but still...2 days with multiple crewmen? Brickman has got to be slackin on that one.

PLM-1
11-02-2006, 04:38 PM
[QUOTE=dcgreenspro]that doesn't sound right. 12 acres open, mostly flat= 2 I could do 12 acres by myslef in 1/4 of the time.

Really???? 12 acres in 1/4 of 16 hrs....4 hrs for 12 acres??? Ive never seen it, not a good job anyway, this isnt mow and go...

First, you asked a question, and we're answering. That tone isn't necessary. Don't insult others services without seeing it. All areas charge different rates. Your price where i'm from would get laughed at and tossed in the trash.

ed2hess
11-02-2006, 07:42 PM
$22 a man hour are you kidding? Are you in biz to make money or work for free?
The large companies like TG and Brinkman charge a lot more than $22 in your area on these large complexes?

dcgreenspro
11-02-2006, 07:57 PM
[QUOTE=dcgreenspro]that doesn't sound right. 12 acres open, mostly flat= 2 I could do 12 acres by myslef in 1/4 of the time.

Really???? 12 acres in 1/4 of 16 hrs....4 hrs for 12 acres??? Ive never seen it, not a good job anyway, this isnt mow and go...

Read. That guy said he needed TWO DAYS. I know i can do 12 acres in less than that.

all ferris
11-02-2006, 07:59 PM
I do 4 residential houses that are 3 acres each and I mow trim and blow in 6-7 hours.

Fredrock13
11-02-2006, 08:20 PM
I charge three men $40 per hour or 2dollars a minute however u want to slice it. But u have to charge atleast 34.:hammerhead: :hammerhead:

mojob
11-02-2006, 08:44 PM
[QUOTE=dcgreenspro]that doesn't sound right. 12 acres open, mostly flat= 2 I could do 12 acres by myslef in 1/4 of the time.

Really???? 12 acres in 1/4 of 16 hrs....4 hrs for 12 acres??? Ive never seen it, not a good job anyway, this isnt mow and go...
I was thinking the same thing. It takes me about 4-5 hours cut 2 acres of that type of property. That's if you're measuring the actual turf area and not the entire footprint of the property.

AintNoFun
11-02-2006, 10:54 PM
i more amazed about some of the prices i see here, regardless of what region you cut in!
$22 a man hour
$500 for 18 man hours of cutting

Outdoor Works
11-03-2006, 12:19 AM
You sound like you may be a little high but without seeing it or knowing if your doing a twelve month contract its hard to say. For example : I have a landscape maintanance contract with a HOA. It is for 12 months. That means I receive a check every month of the year. The area is just over 6 acres that actually has to be cut. The community has alot more land than that but I only have to take care of the common areas. There are over 100 trees, 3 large flower beds and numerous other bedded areas that have to be mulched and flowers planted in the beds. I edge once per month and of course the whole thing has to blown clear after cutting and trimming. Just the cutting, trimming and blowing take me approx 7-8hrs by myself. Of course the mulching, planting flowers and edging take additional time. My price for that is $1600 per month. I forgot to mention that I also prune the trees. This contract does not provide for any applications of fertilizer etc. I hope this helps. Also I know that in southern MD you can command a higher price than up north like me.

Flex-Deck
11-03-2006, 12:20 AM
[QUOTE=dcgreenspro]that doesn't sound right. 12 acres open, mostly flat= 2 I could do 12 acres by myslef in 1/4 of the time.

Really???? 12 acres in 1/4 of 16 hrs....4 hrs for 12 acres??? Ive never seen it, not a good job anyway, this isnt mow and go...

My wife and I mow a 22 acre property with 1 mile of curbs in 3 hrs. 15 minutes with a JD 495 and 595 - Here it is.

lawnwizards
11-03-2006, 01:59 PM
[QUOTE=tulipgrove]

My wife and I mow a 22 acre property with 1 mile of curbs in 3 hrs. 15 minutes with a JD 495 and 595 - Here it is.
what do you get for that property? around 500?

Flex-Deck
11-03-2006, 02:31 PM
[QUOTE=Flex-Deck]
what do you get for that property? around 500?

That is almost exactly what we do it for. Thanks Brad

lawnwizards
11-03-2006, 03:01 PM
see, people are accustomed to getting 60-70 per acre and when they bid a 22 acre property at 1500 and the winning bid comes in at 500 they assume lowballer. no difference if someone with a 21 bids a 1/4acre at 60 and a someone with a 60" bids it at 35. enough of my useless babble.

tulipgrove
11-03-2006, 04:28 PM
Found out today (11-3) that Brickman gets just under 2500 per cut. So my 1760 isnt so bad after all.