asv rc 30 advice

[mag360]

We just priced this machine out and the dealer seems a little high.
Here's what they offered.

ASV RC 30 (demo) 20+hrs with cab and heat $20,900
4x1 bucket $2200
Auger drive $1500
6in bit $300
9in bit $370
30in bit $795
adapter (for full size attachments) $695

Total $26,760 before tax.

Has anyone gotten quotes for this unit? The attachments seem fair but the machine itself I expected a lower number on.

The original price for just the machine with the standard bucket was 21,500. I told him to swap to the 4in1 bucket and keep the price the same (about a $1600 difference) and recieved this quote with a note that the bes they can do is drop the price by $600 (thats not a real price drop because the standard bucket is worth $600 or so---seems dishonest) This price doesn't scare me but the fact that they aren't budging on a demo machine doesn't seem right.

I will be taking a trip from pa to florida this fall and can stop in any of the easternmost states for a good price/good dealer.

Also, is there an adapter available to mount mini skid attachments to this unit?

Thanks for any advice guys.

[mag360]

Also does anyone have practical experience/advice on this machine.

We were looking to go the toro dingo route but the faster ground speed and sit-down operation will be of more use to us for snow management.

[Dirty Water]

Post over in the Heavy Equipment forum if you want to get the attention of the Skid Steer Guru's.

[mag360]

Yep, thanks.
Hoping for some feedback from the mini-skid owners too.

I'll post over there as well, thanks.

[Lawnworks]

I had an rc30, but I sold it and bought a rc30. I don't do snow, but the dingo is a more practical machine for landscaping. Attachments are easier to come by, I can load the dingo on a 6x12 3500lb trailer, and the tracks are easy to maintain.

Why don't you buy a low hour machine on ebay? Probably be 12-14k.

[mag360]

Lawnworks, Thanks for the advice. We actually bought the machine. Ebay units were hard to find. The only machines I found used were off rental fleets and, based on the price of new tracks and rollers, decided to stay away. These tracks are covered for 2 years or 1000 hours. We added a set of forks to the deal and they threw in the dirt bucket currently on the machine.

This machine wound up costing about $2000 less then the best competitor's offer for a non-demo unit.

Also toro finance is at 10%+ as far as I know for 60 months.
ASV gave us 5.68%

Good luck with the dingo and thanks for the post.

[grossbec28]

asvs are great machines i highly recomend buying it only if it is going to be used everyday you need to let them pay for themselves by working it to death.:usflag:

[LB1234]

One major benefit of mini over full size is the visibility and the ease to get in/out on/off the machine.

For instance, if your augering with a skid and want to check depth you basically have to crawl out of the damn thing all the while trying not to hit your head while getting out. Then get back in and unlock all the safetys that are set in place. With the mini its literally pull back, let go the controls, walk around, check and walk back and start the control back up. MUCH easier/faster if you find yourself having to check what you are doing or constantly be in and out of the machine.

[Focal Point Landscapes]

Damn fine machine , but getting in and out of the machine is a pain and the visibility behind you is a big problem for me , too . Cab room is insufficient for a big guy imo . The Dingo was a better fit for what we do , but congrats on the new machine. Its a workhorse.

[KRtraxx]

Having been in sales of Cat,ASV,New Holland and Gehl skid machines for the past ten yers I can honestly say this.The RC30 is a great little machine and does more work for its size then what you would think.The only down side I can think of is that a lot of guys over load and over push with them because of the traction they offer.Which could cause drivetrain reliability problems(which I have seen) that can be pricey.Use it wisely and you will be rewarded with the best performing ride on machine in this catagory...

[leaflandscape]

They look fantastic, We're gonna be getting one next year. They're fast, strong, and I'm sure the ladies love a man in a baby skidsteer.

[bobcat_ron]

Don't be put off by the ASV tracks, CAT's influence on ASV is resulting in better undercarriages with easier and less maintenance.

[AAXteriors]

What is wrong with the ASV tracks?

[bobcat_ron]

They got a really bad rep when they first came out, the people that used them trashed them because the operated them like a track loader with steel tracks and the rubber parts deteriorated quicker, the operator has to operate the ASV undercarriages with the mentality that the machine is a conventional rubber tired loader, so any adverse operating conditions will wear and damage the track system faster.

Now with CAT's influence behind ASV (They do after all own up to 23% of ASV) the maintenance of these tracks and rollers is simplified, it used to be to replace a roller wheel on the older undercarriages, it would be a matter of almost a half day's work, now it can be done in 1 hour with common tools, and the undercarriage is more self cleaning with less time spent on washing it out.

The idea is still on the fence for the most of the haters, ASV tracks are a softer rubber, yes, they can tear and rip easier, but, you won't have to spin the tracks as much to get the job done, the rubber/steel tracks that the others use have a harder rubber that stands up longer, but it can't flex and take constant travelling as the softer rubber can, it's all in the application use.

I can keep on going on and on here, but this is a topic best left for a separate post and I would need sometime to get enough facts together for a lengthy essay type thread.

[jrdean62]

The only reason CAT owns stock in ASV is so they can get the undercarriage for their skids. But ASV does not offer and warrenty on the undercarriage when it goes under a CAT skid. This is because the CAT skid like other skids were designed to go on wheels. The weight distribution is not balanced when put on tracks. This is why an ASV gets much more life out of the undercarriage then a CAT skid.

[bobcat_ron]

Cat has a 1 year or 1500 hour warranty on the tracks through ASV, my sales rep went over all the details yesterday with me, there's a math type equation that gets done so the owner only pays a certain percentage of the total cost.

[NBI Lawn]

Don't be put off by the ASV tracks, CAT's influence on ASV is resulting in better undercarriages with easier and less maintenance.

My Cat 247B has ASV tracks on it.

[bobcat_ron]

So does mine!!

[NBI Lawn]

So what is wrong with them?

[bobcat_ron]

Nothing, they work better than the other CTL's!!

Just one too many nuts out there giving up on the ASV system.

[NBI Lawn]

Hmm, I think it works great. Although I have a noise coming from one of the drive cylinder deals.