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BerksLawn
06-19-2001, 05:41 PM
Yesterday we were having a problem on the last yard. I was using the redmax trimmer and the string kept melting together. This has happened before but never this much, is there anyway to prevent it? Thanks for your help in advance.

smburgess
06-19-2001, 06:14 PM
I've never had my string really melt together. It may be the quality of the string?

Esby
06-19-2001, 08:16 PM
I was going to post a thread about this the other day. I have been having the same problem now and again. Does it just melt together, then not feed, and you run out of line? It's really annoying but I dont know if there is anything one can do about it. What brand of line are you using?

Grateful11
06-19-2001, 08:39 PM
I think whats happening is when you snag something it pulls the line and stretchs it and takes all the slack out of the spool. This in turn creates friction between the strands and welds the line together. It happens alot with my Shiny fully auto head in heavy weeds or if I snag a guy wire. Some brands weld together worse than others. I've actually pulled mine apart and the line will break at the worst welded spot.:angel:

Fallguy
06-19-2001, 08:52 PM
i cannot say i have ever had that problem and i have done some serious weedeating before to this day teh longest i have ever weedeated in one length of time was 3 hours it took me to to do this one mans ditch that was approimately 1/3 of a football field - it was weeds and brush that was approximately knee deep and some weeds were the big 1in diamiter that smack you in the face - i was solid green by the time i was through and only charged him $75 per cut every 3 weeks - insane i know - but i was young and nieve - anyhoo - i tried to negotiate with the man and tell him that it would be $100 a cut from now on and he said we could renigotiate next year - so i said ok - just to get paid - then i never returned - i hope he busts his azz as many times as i did trying to cut that goat hill - oh - by the way - he said the last guy doing it was charging $50 every 3 weeks - lol - like to see him get that guy back

Fallguy
06-19-2001, 08:55 PM
you might be getting excessive heat from the shaft going into the housing - might want to check your housing for grease - make sure its full of fresh grease and try a different line.

BerksLawn
06-19-2001, 09:17 PM
were using william shakespere or something like that the wal mart brand u no its .95. Its great for edging, we havent had this problem in the echo yet just the redmax and i just went out and greased it, my dad had no problem today so problem solved for now.

JOshua Gallerick
06-19-2001, 09:57 PM
I had the same problem with my string trimmer. A rep from silver streak had me try out a new type of string with aluminum in it. I tried it and it works great. The
aluminum acts as a radiator for the string and helps keep it cool. so ya might want to try it.

geogunn
06-19-2001, 10:04 PM
I don't know exactly why the string is melting but the cure is to bump the head and advance the line.

you gotta feed those trimmers line!

you can't save money saving line!

you may say you are feeding line but if you are having the melting problem, try extra feeding of the line and see.

GEO

Fallguy
06-19-2001, 10:17 PM
you can save money saving line - because your saving time by not having to spool your line so much - especially if you have new boys your breaking in and every time they run outta string your having to stop and show them how to do it - my guys arent intelectual giants - neither am i but i can wind line into a trimmer and about 5 times faster than they can - if i have to stop more than usuall i tell them im gonna dock them pay as a incentive to learn quickly

Double D
06-19-2001, 11:11 PM
It is caused by vibration. Homeowner type of line is usually much more prone to this problem. I use the line from Husky that has titanium in it, and have yet to have it meld together. A certain orange line I used last year used to meld together quite freqently. I always wondered why all trimmer line was not either clear or green?

geogunn
06-19-2001, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Fallguy
my guys arent intelectual giants - neither am i....

FALLGUY...you said it better than I could. have a nice day!:angel:

GEO

Fallguy
06-19-2001, 11:29 PM
you shouldnt be getting all upset because you were proven wrong - its common sense - does anybody disagree that the more string you use (i.g. the more you are bopping the head }the more time you spend restringing ??? i also know how to make it by when im the one weedeating and i run out of string to bop out ill stay further from walls and fence and make it last till i get close enough to make it worth the while to go restring - me saying i wasnt a intelectual giant was simply giving my boys benifit of the doubt - i used to be you geo - then i grew up

David Gretzmier
06-19-2001, 11:34 PM
the more expensive strings- gatorline, magnum, crossfire, weld less, and seem to break less as well. dave g

khouse
06-19-2001, 11:56 PM
Since I figured out to wrap the lines without crossing them I have had no welding. This may help. Good luck. I was going to suggest spraying your line with silicone after you installed it to see if that would do the trick. It may make a dirty mess, I don't know. But I do know that when I spray it in my boys Zebco 33's spools they work great for a long time. Don't use WD 45. Silicone spray only.

geogunn
06-19-2001, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Fallguy
i used to be you geo - then i grew up

nope. you never used to be me, fall guy, but it is time for YOU to grow up.

I know what practice has resulted welded line and I have learned how to cure it.

I posted the cure.

obviously, if you aren't screwing with welded line breaking off in the head, you are saving time.

you have not proven me wrong.

now the cure for you and your workers problems...I dunno. but you should recognize that my post was not meant to be a challenge, hence the angel face!

NOW, again, have a great day!:angel:

GEO

Fallguy
06-20-2001, 12:32 AM
do you think that im the one looking immature here ?- your the one wasting line and time i might add and post space as well - not me - so far as i can tell how mant posts you have on here doesnt say nothing for the intelligence of the individual making the post - you were the one deliberately trying to insult me and my intelligence - your the one with the personal vendetta against me sharing usefull information - funny how the man greased the head of his weedeater and the problem stoped - as i recall that was what i posted - also - if im not having the problem i have sence enough to have avoided the problem - no offense to anybody here - now - why dont you grow up and post something usefull instead of busting peoples ba11z on here? also - what i mean is that i used to be like you in that i went around looking for arguments to get into - but i made up and appologised for my actions - but people like you and like how i used to be are the main problem on lawnsite.com - if you have something personal against me then email me -lets not wast these peoples time - shall we?

lawnman_scott
06-20-2001, 01:31 AM
I think its the walmart homeowners line, i used that when i started out, and had nothing but problems till i started getting my line at the mower shop. it also happens with thin line, but 095 should be ok.

lawnMaster5000
06-20-2001, 02:12 AM
i have seen this problem before on redmax trimmers but i think it has nothing to do with the trimmer. all the times i have seen the welding of line was using redmax brand trimmer lines, they make a great trimmer but i think they have a little work to do on the line.

grassyfras
06-20-2001, 11:53 AM
Make sure your winding the trimmer right. I wound my trimmers the wrong way for a long time. The dealer said I was lucky the head would stay on. But anyway, the resong your string is melting is because its obviouly getting to hot. If the string isn't wound right then the string can't come out. Then when you tap the head and the string can't come out thats when your string melts. I doubt its the trimmer string in my opinion.

jeffyr
06-20-2001, 12:34 PM
Cheap line will fuse. I bought a spool from Landscapers supply--I used 2 spools of it and that was enough for me.

Avery
06-20-2001, 05:29 PM
Berk, buy quality line and spool it w/o crossing it. Try going to a .105 line. Also as one other poster suggested make sure you keep the line advanced. You can cut more/quicker with longer line. This offsets the time spent on an extra re-spool or two a day.

BerksLawn
06-20-2001, 07:58 PM
My dad likes the string so we will stay with it. Well one other factor could be we need a new bumper head, the one now is worn out and we order 2 new ones so hopefully this helps. Its gotta be this because u have to hit it more then 3 times to get string out. Well thanks for all your help.

Double D
06-20-2001, 08:24 PM
Just for the record, the string is not melting together, it is melding (or as jeffyr says fusing) together. It is not from heat, it is caused by the vibration in the trimmer head. Cheap line melds worse than commercial quality line. Peace

geogunn
06-21-2001, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Fallguy
do you think that im the one looking immature here ?...- so far as i can tell how mant posts you have on here doesnt say nothing for the intelligence of the individual making the post - you were the one deliberately trying to insult me and my intelligence - your the one with the personal vendetta against me ...why dont you grow up and post something usefull instead of busting peoples ba11z on here? ...but people like you ...are the main problem on lawnsite.com - if you have something personal against me then email me -lets not wast these peoples time - shall we?

fallguy--how do you come up with this stuff? are you paranoid or something?

this forum is supposed to be fun but it can't be fun if you are huffing and blowing for no reason! take a chill pill and enjoy your time here!

now again, have a nice day! seriously!:p

GEO

KirbysLawn
06-21-2001, 12:32 AM
Half of this is arguing and half is topic. Berk, if you have the answer from all this great, if not let me know and I will re-open it.

Ray