Entertaining Vids for a cold day

[cddva]

Checkout some of the ASV vids on this dealer website: http://www.mbtractor.com/bobcatvsasv.php............for entertainment purposes only!:drinkup:

[Uranus]

Those guys must have been really bored or there boss was not around

[Dirty Water]

I don't think I'd have taken either machine on that little hill. Short wheel base and a rear heavy machine...Thats a little scary.

[AWJ Services]

If you go too there home page they have the tractive force video.

They use the chaining hooks too fasten the machine too instead of the bucket edge which is actually what you push with not the hooks.

They also use the T 250 in the mud demo since it has no ground clearance what so ever and high centers very easy.

The hill that is used is very sandy loose soil which is not favorable too a cleat type track very similar too what happens with an aggresive tire in sandy situations.

Pretty much if you like going 12 mph ,climbing hills and mud bogging then the ASV is your machine.
I however have not found any financial gain with the use of my machine in any of those 3 categories.:)

I wonder why they do not have a video comparing the ASV too another performing excavation operations or moving dirt or grading operations?:laugh:

[Tigerotor77W]

Good find, guys -- I'm still looking for the DVD, but this satisfies me for a while...

http://www.mbtractor.com/asvcompared.php

[ksss]

I would like to see the following comparison. The ASV cost per hour and the Bobcat cost per hour based on say an average of 50 different operators and machines in various types of ground conditions. Like has been said here many times, the ASV/CAT system does things others cant. The question is if that capability is worth the cost. I think for some guys it is and others it is not and most probably don't know which catagory they are in. It requires the buyer to be very well informed, problem is most are not (present company excluded of course).

[Tigerotor77W]

If I could get the funding for 50 operators, 50 machines, I would do it. My goal has always been to get all the majors in the 2,500 pound class (Bobcat S250; Cast 85XT -> now 445; Deere 325 and heck, 328; NH Ls185.B, Gehl 6640; Mustang 2076 and 2086) and run them all. But I have neither the land nor the money to do such a thing.

But I still dream. :)

[Scag48]

I notice how you left out Cat in the lineup. I guess it's safe to assume that all the machines you listed would be fighting for second place behind Cat. :rolleyes:

[ksss]

"I notice how you left out Cat in the lineup. I guess it's safe to assume that all the machines you listed would be fighting for second place behind Cat. "

Where do I begin?

I always thought that someone like Compact Equipment magazine should do something like that. Similiar to Motor Trend in comparing of different machines. All these dirt mags run general articles but no one puts the machines head to head. I am sure it comes down to advertising revenue and the loss of same if someones machine doesn't do so well. It would make for some intersting reading and create much discussion on forums like this I am sure.

[thepawnshop]

I gotta say...the video look good. In those comparisons, ASV made everyone else look like chumps. Doesn't Deere have similar videos showing them trumping everyone else as well?

All I can say is if the videos are true to life, then those ASV's are pretty impressive.

[Scag48]

Where do I begin?


Oh Kaiser, you know I was joking.

Honestly, the videos do nothing to "sell" the machine for me. If you buy a piece based on a video comparison without actually trying the competition, you are blind and you'll be out of business before you even get your feet wet.

I also agree that equipment mags need to do head to head testing, but I know it will never happen.

[Tigerotor77W]

I notice how you left out Cat in the lineup. I guess it's safe to assume that all the machines you listed would be fighting for second place behind Cat. :rolleyes:

Ahhh! It's finals week. I was sitting for literally half a minute trying to think if I left anyone out, and I miss the biggest one of them all... don't tell Cat!

But yes, I want to do Cat, too. No doubt Cat, Bobcat, Deere, and Case are the four big-hitters I want to see. Sorry, guys... that really wasn't meant to be a blatant manifestation of my bias.

*trucewhiteflag*

[Digdeep]

AWJ and ksss do pose a couple of good questions with respect to head to head comparisons. I too would would like to see an independant firm conduct some comparisons. However, I do think that the ASV video identifies some key areas that translate into potential financial gain.

Tractive effort- granted, the machines were pulling instead of pushing, however, I would think that if you can pull a large amount demonstrating traction, you could see how it would translate into pushing ability. I think the purpose of their video was to show that more track on the ground on a balanced machine translates into more traction. I can buy that.

Hill climbing- while I don't do a lot of hill climbing in my RC50, I could see how someone who clears brush, or works in certain applications would find it useful. Once again more track on the ground and a balanced machine.

Mud demo- I think this is more for demonstrative purposes, but the video states that they used the T250 because bobcat advertised the lowest ground pressure compared to their(ASV) machine. It is true that the bobcat has really poor ground clearance, but all of the competitive "rigid" machines with the exception of the Takeuchi have ground clearances similar to the same skid steer the chassis was used on. In other words, almost all of the machines were taken right from their skid steer brother and plopped on some industry standard tracks and mini-ex rollers.

I do agree with most that ultimately it comes down to a customer trying out the different models and makes to determine what works best for them. We all seem to be happy with the machine we each bought.