Foundation insecticide

[garyslawn]

What chemical would you recommend for home foundations???

[teeca]

i rotate the use of ortho max (granular) from wal-mart, and talstar (liquid), and have great results. another good one i use is cyper pro (liquid) from lesco.

[Runner]

Be careful, because here, we have to have a structural certification and license to do perimeter sprays legally that include the foundation. However, much of what you are after can be done just by doing the ground perimeter around the structure.This IS an excellent moneymaker, though...4 ft. out and 4 ft. up.

[turf hokie]

I was thinking of doing this for the upcoming year also, But we too need a seperate pesticide category. I just don't have the time to take the classes when they are offered. Maybe next year.

I know some local guys that use liquid talstar on the house and granular around it.

[timturf]

What insects are you going for?

[garyslawn]

I have license. Mow and Fertilize lawns. Customers ask me to kill spiders (were bad here last year) Thought I could get extra income. How much $ should I charge foe a 2500 sq ft ranch home? thanks...

[Runner]

So in Ohio, you are able to do this (spray structures) with just a lawn applicaion license?

[garyslawn]

Yes. exterior. working on interior. might have passed by now. I just want foundation. Have used dursban on foundation. Worked well (Shame goverment gets involved.)

[Ric]

Yes. exterior. working on interior. might have passed by now. I just want foundation. Have used dursban on foundation. Worked well (Shame goverment gets involved.)

#1 Perimeter spraying alone will not control Spiders

#2 It was time to do away with Dursban, It was losing it's effectiveness

#3 I would bet $ 100.00 to a dime that Ohio requires a Structural License to do Perimeter treatment.

[Gatewayuser]

#1 Perimeter spraying alone will not control Spiders

#2 It was time to do away with Dursban, It was losing it's effectiveness

#3 I would bet $ 100.00 to a dime that Ohio requires a Structural License to do Perimeter treatment.


That is correct! If you spray any insecticide onto the outside of a home you need a cat 10 license which we have.

Also we use Crosscheck and have great results.

[Ric]

That is correct! If you spray any insecticide onto the outside of a home you need a cat 10 license which we have.

Also we use Crosscheck and have great results.

Gateway

Thank you, someone owes me a dime. It is not what use, but how you use it that really counts. I would hate to tell an Idiot like Gary what to use because it is obvious he doesn't know what he is doing. Lack of common industry terminology is the big give away.

[rider]

In Ohio you need a 10a for general urban spraying , 10b for termite treatment . If you are certified to fert and squirt you should have the 10a .

[Gatewayuser]

In Ohio you need a 10a for general urban spraying , 10b for termite treatment . If you are certified to fert and squirt you should have the 10a .

If you are doing turf you need cat 8. 10a is for building insect control.

[garyslawn]

MOUTH (RIC) IN OHIO commercial applicator license WILL ALLOW ONE TO SPRAY FOUNDATIONS. THANKS FOR THE DIME.

[Gatewayuser]

MOUTH (RIC) IN OHIO commercial applicator license WILL ALLOW ONE TO SPRAY FOUNDATIONS. THANKS FOR THE DIME.

ONLY if you have a 10a license! You best be listening to us. I should know I have almost every license you can get.

[Runner]

gateway,
I think what rider was saying, was that if you are already doing fert. and squirt, then you need to add the 10a to your license. In Ohio, I guess you guys are able to just add categories to your license at any time, since testing is all that is required for licensing in Ohio. Is this the case? We aren't able to do that here in Michigan, since each category requires 2 years of certified experience under a business licensed for that category(s). It is nteresting how it varies state to state.

[Gatewayuser]

gateway,
I think what rider was saying, was that if you are already doing fert. and squirt, then you need to add the 10a to your license. In Ohio, I guess you guys are able to just add categories to your license at any time, since testing is all that is required for licensing in Ohio. Is this the case? We aren't able to do that here in Michigan, since each category requires 2 years of certified experience under a business licensed for that category(s). It is nteresting how it varies state to state.

Thats true but you have to have recert for each cat every 3 years.

[teeca]

in stead of bickering back and forth, direct him to the ohio dept of ag at 1-800-282-1955, that would be the first place anybody should start, regardless of what state your in, then you get the answer, not the fine.

[upidstay]

Tempo SC Ultra is a good choice, as is Phantom. Phantom is actually a pretty amazing product. Expensive per bottle, but a little goes a long way. The best products for foundation spraying are micro-encapsulated or micro-crystalline. These will do much better on porous surfaces like concrete or stone. Couple this with a granular and you should be good. My wife freaks whenever she sees a 1/32" spider, and I have been using either Talstar or Tempo, (can't justify pending the $$ on Phantom for my house) with Talstar granules around the perimeter of my house. I also spray the nooks in my basement with either of these. Still get a few little ones, but nothing major.

[Ric]

Tempo SC Ultra is a good choice, as is Phantom. Phantom is actually a pretty amazing product. Expensive per bottle, but a little goes a long way. The best products for foundation spraying are micro-encapsulated or micro-crystalline. These will do much better on porous surfaces like concrete or stone. Couple this with a granular and you should be good. My wife freaks whenever she sees a 1/32" spider, and I have been using either Talstar or Tempo, (can't justify pending the $$ on Phantom for my house) with Talstar granules around the perimeter of my house. I also spray the nooks in my basement with either of these. Still get a few little ones, but nothing major.

upidstay

http://www.cdms.net/ldat/ld5M2000.pdf

Please check out the bottom right column on page 2 of the Phantom label Where it says LIMITED EXTERIOR APPLICATION TO STRUCTURES

There is a better product that I like to use twice a year on perimeter treatments. However I will not tell a man who I believe is unlicensed what that product is as stated before.

[ArizPestWeed]

Vitamin T , I'll bet




upidstay

http://www.cdms.net/ldat/ld5M2000.pdf

Please check out the bottom right column on page 2 of the Phantom label Where it says LIMITED EXTERIOR APPLICATION TO STRUCTURES

There is a better product that I like to use twice a year on perimeter treatments. However I will not tell a man who I believe is unlicensed what that product is as stated before.

[Otownlost]

After 18 years in pest control, and 8 years as a Certified Operator, it is truly frightening to me that some states require no professional supervised training prior to obtaining a commercial pesticide license. Reading book and a semester in class only makes you a dangerous applicator rather that ignorant. Real world applications supervised and tutored by a professional with experience is a must. Not to insult anyone, but there is far more that just spraying chemicals, or "what is the best for..". It requires knowledge of the pest, it's biology, and more. If this offends anyone, I read a book on brain surgery and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so drop by for a free, no obligation, brain surgery!

[Runner]

I know exactly what you are saying. It is surprising how many states require absolutely no experience to apply for turfgrass and ornamental, as well. The paperwork, the core tests, and category tests play such a SMALL role in the whole mix. By the way, do you know of any good forus of this type that deal specifically with structural pest control? Thanks.

[Gatewayuser]

After 18 years in pest control, and 8 years as a Certified Operator, it is truly frightening to me that some states require no professional supervised training prior to obtaining a commercial pesticide license. Reading book and a semester in class only makes you a dangerous applicator rather that ignorant. Real world applications supervised and tutored by a professional with experience is a must. Not to insult anyone, but there is far more that just spraying chemicals, or "what is the best for..". It requires knowledge of the pest, it's biology, and more. If this offends anyone, I read a book on brain surgery and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so drop by for a free, no obligation, brain surgery!

Amen, well said!

[Otownlost]

Groundcontrol,
Check for the UPMA- they are in Australia. By far the best I have found. Suprisingly there are many Americans on there. An extremly professional group to talk with, always supportive. The screening process prior to being able to post Weeds out the airheads. And AZ, monkeys often think they are smart, however they still fling thier own feces. Thanks for showing us yours.

Chris:usflag:

[A.T.A.K]

Chris, you still in downtown or did Mike run you off. I still here from Mike W every couple of months.

[Otownlost]

Sill here. How is your venture going? Send me an email at the corporate or PM me.

[Runner]

And incidentally, I would like to thank you for the info, as well. I certainly appreciate that.

[Otownlost]

Joe,
You are welcome. Thank you for the support as well. Professionalism is becoming a scarce commodity, as well as quality and pride in one's work. The pervasive idea to "just get by", be it the product or service provided, or the individual's knowledge of thier trade, has degraded. Once, a man took pride in knowing all there was about thier trade, to provide a superior result. Too often, people learn just enough to get by, becoming dangerous. A monkey can ride a bike, drive a motocycle, even a car. The fact they can do it, does not make them safe or even proficient. I have a great deal of respect for the people who realize this and study hard, ask questions, and seek proper training prior to applying any chemical.