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Wil22
01-22-2007, 06:48 PM
I have a customer that want about 1000 sf in the back of his house covered with pea gravel. I estimate 9 tons of pea gravel. The back yard is fenced in with a single gate about 36 inches. and the only way I can think to get it back there would be to use a wheel barrow.
It will be two of us. How many man hours should I estimate. Is there another way to get it in the back yard?

Willie

carcrz
01-22-2007, 07:09 PM
probably 2 yards an hour if shoveling into a wheel barrow & spreading. Have fun. It's WORK!!!

Precision
01-22-2007, 07:22 PM
probably 2 yards an hour if shoveling into a wheel barrow & spreading. Have fun. It's WORK!!!


The nearest I have done to that is spread 22 yards of lime rock for a drive way.

The truck dumped half where I wanted it, but we had to hand haul about 11 yards. around 9 tons. Myself and a helper got it moved in 2.5 hours using coal shovels (flat type) and 9 cu ft wheel barrows.

We had no choice as the delivery was 3 hours late and it was gonna be dark.

Az Gardener
01-22-2007, 07:23 PM
Two tons per hour moved and spread if you have good labor. Good luck.

Allure
01-22-2007, 07:23 PM
what kind of fence? If possible, i would ask to remove a section of fence so that you have easier access. They will save a lot on the labor for spreading the pea gravel if you can use something larger than a wheel barrow. That should more than offset the cost of removing a section of fence if the fence is in sections (ie. wood, vinyl)

cutbetterthanyou
01-22-2007, 07:28 PM
if you have a tractor or skid steer and can get around the fence maybe scoop it up and dump it over . this may not total count out all off the hand work but it may help some

Wil22
01-22-2007, 07:36 PM
Last week I took a section out of the fence, to get my riding mower in
back to mulch some leaves. But when we tried to stretch it back, it was a living nightmare. I should have ran over to home depot and rented the stretcher.

jeffscap
01-22-2007, 07:51 PM
[QUOTE=Wil22;1682321]I have a customer that want about 1000 sf in the back of his house covered with pea gravel. I estimate 9 tons of pea gravel. The back yard is fenced in with a single gate about 36 inches. and the only way I can think to get it back there would be to use a wheel barrow.
It will be two of us. How many man hours should I estimate. Is there another way to get it in the back yard?

Can you get a stone slinger close? It will sling up to about 40'. Sure will make life alot easier.

LB1234
01-22-2007, 08:28 PM
Some mini skids will handle 36" gates fairly easily. If I recall the dingo tx 420 is something like 34.5 inches. You should be able to get through a 36 inch gate. I would measure though. You'll have to get the narrow buckets rented with it as well.

It will work we've done it before. Depending on how close the gravel is to the dumping location it should go rather quickly. One person loading the machine dumping and the second just spreading out what was dumped.

9 tons is like 5 cuyds. I know in a wide open area with the light materials bucket we can get a yard into four buckets. Narrow bucket is smaller so say six passes or a total of about 30-35 trips. I'd say between 3-4 hours.

tjsquickcuts
01-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Pea Gravel is a easy spread....I would guess about 3 to 4 hours, but that just dropping the rock....Including all the prep work, Looking @ a easy 6 hours just making sure everything is done right, and all the weed block is spread out evenly.....Just curious, how much was you Bid? What would you other guys charge for this same job....Just curious to see the difference in Price per Region.....

Prep Work--I.E. trenching, weed block, etc....$375.00 guess estimate on Trenching

Pea Gravel--9.5 Tons @ $150 Per ton = $1425---My cost $30 a Ton = $285

Delivery--$95.00

Total = $1895.....

Easy work, Great Profit for me....Would usually have two other guys with me, and the three of us would knock it out in about 4 hours......

LB1234
01-22-2007, 08:57 PM
Assuming pea gravel is 32/ton my cost...and we need 9 ton. I would charge customer 50/ton plus any applicable delivery charges. I can only handle 4 ton at a time (legally) so I would have it delivered. 3'x300' roll landscape fabric will run customer about 100-125...depending how much is required. 50 misc expenses and 50 fuel surcharge. So material portion (assuming already an existing frame) will be about 750.

I'll assume half days worth of work. 60/hr on dingo for 4 hours plus 35/hr laborer for 4 hours. So thats 240 for operator and 140 for laborer. Or 380 laborer.

Our proposal to customer would be 1130 for spreading pea gravel @ 3" thickness over landscape fabric.

AGLA
01-22-2007, 09:16 PM
I would not have it delivered. I'd use gravity on my side by filling the wheel barrows from the truck. I used to do this with one other guy and three wheel barrows. It was a piece of cake. One guy fills the wheel barrows. The other takes and dumps two wheel barrows, then switches with you as you go away with the full wheel barrow when he gets there. Its fun and you do get a break waiting for the guy to come back with the wheel barrow. It tends to get competitive and you get done fast. ... at least it used to be this way when men were men and did not need gas powered augers to dig a 3" hole for a bulb.

More than likely, someone might have it delivered, and rent a bobcat to load the wheel barrows. Or take apart the fence and entire landscape to get the bobcat into the back yard and then rent a sod cutter to strip the lawn and replace it because of wheel ruts.

Travel'n Trees
01-22-2007, 10:54 PM
I don't know but wouldn't it be easier to rent a dump truck and do it in a hour or two depending on how far to get the rock? I mean 20 to 40 minutes every 4.5 tons max with dump truck and it is easy work then. I would do rock and dirt installs all day long if I could. I think dingo is just to slow.

LB1234
01-22-2007, 11:19 PM
I don't know but wouldn't it be easier to rent a dump truck and do it in a hour or two depending on how far to get the rock? I mean 20 to 40 minutes every 4.5 tons max with dump truck and it is easy work then. I would do rock and dirt installs all day long if I could. I think dingo is just to slow.

Have you ever used a dingo or any other mini-skid? Granted they are not as quick as a regular skid but they have there applications. It is 100% quicker than a wheelbarrel.

There is no way one man can load a wheelbarrel, transport it, dump it, and return faster than a mini-skid.

Travel'n Trees
01-23-2007, 12:14 AM
Yes I have, but you can count clean up and leveling it doesn't go as fast yes there are certain applications it will beat it.

LB1234
01-23-2007, 11:22 AM
I dunno. I did a job solo...

4.5 ton of 3/8 pea gravel. Dumped it onto driveway and ran my machine about 50' into the backyard. Had to dump inside a 12'x30' swingset area. Landscape fabric was already in place. All told it didn't take me much longer than an hour a transportation and an hour of setup/cleanup.

zedosix
01-23-2007, 11:37 AM
This is what you need to carry the pea stone. Just shovel it from a truck or use a skidsteer to fill it. Easy work made even easier.

zedosix
01-23-2007, 11:40 AM
I will try again