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Turf Technologies
01-26-2007, 05:17 PM
Anyone have an good or bads on the 06 powerstroke?

mow king
01-26-2007, 05:24 PM
I have an 05 with 101,000 miles on it, no major problems.

I'd recommend one.

PORTER 05
01-26-2007, 05:25 PM
well i dont have one and dont know any one that does but the ford dealer i go to with my f-350 7.3 tells me the 6.0 have ALOOOOOOT of problems, id wait and buy the new 08 model, or buy a 03 7.3 i think they made SOME 04's with the 7.3 BUT i might be wrong...

Gravel Rat
01-26-2007, 05:59 PM
The new 6.4 twin turbo PSD is a very expensive option for us in Canada its almost a 9 grand option on a Ford P/U truck. Cheaper to buy a V-10 and suffer with slightly poorer gas mileage. Diesels are not worth it anymore with the cost of repairing them and they are not getting the fuel mileage like they used to. The new 6.4 uses electronic unit injectors over hydraulic unit injectors like the 7.3 or 6.0 . The 6.4 uses Peizo (sp) injectors supposidly they are better but its expensive technology.

Also the new 08 Fords in my mind are ugly it might grow on me but right now they are UGLY.

lawnspecialties
01-26-2007, 06:55 PM
well i dont have one and dont know any one that does but the ford dealer i go to with my f-350 7.3 tells me the 6.0 have ALOOOOOOT of problems, id wait and buy the new 08 model, or buy a 03 7.3 i think they made SOME 04's with the 7.3 BUT i might be wrong...

The first 6.0's (the '03's) basically were a failure. Your chances of getting one with no problems was about 50/50. The '04's were a decent amount better except for some injector issues. The '05's, '06's, and '07's have been really good. An '03 7.3 (last year offered) would be good choice, but if you go that route, learn all about their cam sensors and how to replace one and you'll be fine.:)

iamthelawnman
01-26-2007, 11:41 PM
The new 6.4 twin turbo PSD is a very expensive option for us in Canada its almost a 9 grand option on a Ford P/U truck. Cheaper to buy a V-10 and suffer with slightly poorer gas mileage. Diesels are not worth it anymore with the cost of repairing them and they are not getting the fuel mileage like they used to. The new 6.4 uses electronic unit injectors over hydraulic unit injectors like the 7.3 or 6.0 . The 6.4 uses Peizo (sp) injectors supposidly they are better but its expensive technology.

Also the new 08 Fords in my mind are ugly it might grow on me but right now they are UGLY.
shawn read this

dekalb lawn man
01-26-2007, 11:42 PM
I will never own a Ford product again, ever. They are crap. I have owned an escort, an explorer, and an F150. The car never made it past 35,000 miles the Explorer had problems from with the electronics from the begining so I traded it in for a 2002 Jeep liberty (which now has 87,000 miles on it with no problems at all) and the truck had an engine fire at 63,000 and then the trannie froze up at 67,000 and that is when I decided to never own a ford product again. If you are going to buy somthing buy a GMC (Chevy) maybe a Dodge. I would rather tow my stuff with a 10 speed bike than buy another Ford.

MysticLandscape
01-27-2007, 12:36 AM
I got a 06 350 roughly 7k miles no problems. I got a friend with an F450 with 5k miles no problem. Another guy with an 04 no problems. One with an 07 no problems. And I believe its 05 maybe on 06 with 30k an no problems. All trucks are work trucks and used on a daily basis.

GG386
01-27-2007, 01:29 AM
I will never own a Ford product again, ever. They are crap. I have owned an escort, an explorer, and an F150. The car never made it past 35,000 miles the Explorer had problems from with the electronics from the begining so I traded it in for a 2002 Jeep liberty (which now has 87,000 miles on it with no problems at all) and the truck had an engine fire at 63,000 and then the trannie froze up at 67,000 and that is when I decided to never own a ford product again. If you are going to buy somthing buy a GMC (Chevy) maybe a Dodge. I would rather tow my stuff with a 10 speed bike than buy another Ford.

If your towing that trailer (loaded) in your signature, I doubt if a GMC or Dodge in that series of tow vehicle would hold up any better than the oval would/could do.

As for the 6.0 powerstroke, any model from 05 on you should be good to go. I do own an 07 with said power, no problems but a little more harder on fuel than my 7.3's, by at least a mile to a gallon. I will replace my E350 in 08 (7.3 power) with a gasser. I have no faith at all in any of the new offerings (diesel wise) from the U.S. Too much unproven technology out there.

Both the duramax and cummins are excellent powerplants and good drivetrains, but the Ford's are better:laugh:

dekalb lawn man
01-27-2007, 01:22 PM
If your towing that trailer (loaded) in your signature, I doubt if a GMC or Dodge in that series of tow vehicle would hold up any better than the oval would/could do.

As for the 6.0 powerstroke, any model from 05 on you should be good to go. I do own an 07 with said power, no problems but a little more harder on fuel than my 7.3's, by at least a mile to a gallon. I will replace my E350 in 08 (7.3 power) with a gasser. I have no faith at all in any of the new offerings (diesel wise) from the U.S. Too much unproven technology out there.

Both the duramax and cummins are excellent powerplants and good drivetrains, but the Ford's are better:laugh:

I owned the F150 before I started towing anything. All I had was two 21" mowers that I put in the bed. I tow my trailer with the liberty and have for two years with no problems at all.

Guthrie&Co
01-27-2007, 02:34 PM
I will never own a Ford product again, ever. They are crap. I have owned an escort, an explorer, and an F150. The car never made it past 35,000 miles the Explorer had problems from with the electronics from the begining so I traded it in for a 2002 Jeep liberty (which now has 87,000 miles on it with no problems at all) and the truck had an engine fire at 63,000 and then the trannie froze up at 67,000 and that is when I decided to never own a ford product again. If you are going to buy somthing buy a GMC (Chevy) maybe a Dodge. I would rather tow my stuff with a 10 speed bike than buy another Ford.

Thats funny, i have a 99 f 350 with 183k on it and have had no problems

Drivefaster35
01-27-2007, 05:38 PM
I bought a 05 f250 6.0 in feb of 06 with 26,000 miles on it put a cold air intake exhast and a juice attitude on it and believe me I use it with 43,000 miles on it no problems whats so ever I do a lot of in town driving with trailer and equipment weighing in at about 7,000lbs don't get fantastic milage (about 12mpg) but much better than the 7mpg I was getting with my dakota with the 4.7L V8 and that was going EASY on it!! I'd never go back to gas in my truck and havent regreted the 6.0 at all :usflag:

mgmlandscaping
01-27-2007, 05:49 PM
We have an 2002 F-550 7.3 with 50,000 never had a problem. We have a 2006 F-550 6.0 with 2,000 miles great so far. The 6.0 has alot more power than the 7.3 with 4 tons in the back of the 06 you cant feel a thing. If we get some snow this year I can let you know how the 6.0 plows, but the 7.3 is great in the snow...

Gravel Rat
01-27-2007, 05:54 PM
Its definatly hit or miss with the 6.0 some have good trucks some don't. Even when the first 03s 6.0s come out people were impressed with the power.

All that extra power is hard on driveline and tires you maybe climbing hills faster but its wearing out your tires faster and prolly your brakes because your using them more to slow down.

ZaK18
01-27-2007, 06:21 PM
I just sold my 06 F250 6.0 with 10,000 miles on it, what a POS... it had constant oil leaks, and egr sensor failed...But the main reason I sold it was the ******* turbo lag, you step on the gas and it doesnt go anywhere for a second until the turbo winds up...Oh yeah I averaged 10 mpg empty and diesel is 50 cent a gallon more than gas, and maintenance of a diesel is very expensive...I will never buy a ford or a diesel again...I am very happy with my nissan titan

RedMax Man
01-27-2007, 07:18 PM
I just sold my 06 F250 6.0 with 10,000 miles on it, what a POS... it had constant oil leaks, and egr sensor failed...But the main reason I sold it was the ******* turbo lag, you step on the gas and it doesnt go anywhere for a second until the turbo winds up...Oh yeah I averaged 10 mpg empty and diesel is 50 cent a gallon more than gas, and maintenance of a diesel is very expensive...I will never buy a ford or a diesel again...I am very happy with my nissan titan

Wow your the first guy i've heard of that bought a Titan for landscaping. Why didn't you get a Chevy or Dodge? just curious... not going to start a truck argument.

Travel'n Trees
01-27-2007, 07:37 PM
Sorry GG but I'm lost the tranny's are better???? The motor ??? Better research about anything is better for towing than a powerjoke, don't get me wrong, their are a some good ones and alot of bad ones than anyone else. Like the Ford Mfg. says these are not designed for landscape work, rock, dirt, mulch, and sand, or towing a loader. That is Mrs. Elaine Jones from Ford Motor company. Remember international has a motor that you don't want called a dt444. So why would you put in a pick up truck?

ZaK18
01-27-2007, 07:51 PM
I actually have 2 Titans, The old one is an 2004 XE king cab and has 65,000 trouble free miles...The New one that I traded the F250 on is a 2007 Fully loaded Se Crew cab...the reason I like the nissan its powerfull,reliable and holds its value...The engine is bullet proof, and an 5 speed automatic is awesome, The titan pulls my 7'x16' tandem trailer MUCH easier than the F250 diesel, (while getting about 3 mpg better)...

btw...The trade in value of my 04 titan is $13,000...I paid $17,500 for it new...I have had it for a little over 2 year, After adding up depreciaton, my truck has only cost me $166 a month...Talk about cheap transportation :clapping:

Mike33
01-27-2007, 09:45 PM
I bought a 06 350 srw 6.0 man. tran in july now i have 16k on it and no problem yet. I had the lemon 03 i had to chip so i could pull out with a load no bottom end even in grandmae gear. The 06 is so much better i could us a little more bottom end but it is so close im not going to spend the money to chip it.
Mike

Swampy
01-27-2007, 10:12 PM
We just had a problem with Ford's 7.3L in our 00 F-550 at the time 7 years old and only 38.5K miles on her, first she blew a injector and trashed a cylinder. We got the new crate motor for it (7.3L). After about 2 weeks waiting to getting it back and when it came back the torque converter went out in it. Now with her sitting waiting for snow you can smeell diff fluid. Axel seals are not showing signs that they are leaking, and its not leaking out the back plate or plug either.

Boss said that he's not going to get anything bigger than a 350 from ford for now on.

But on the other side our older 7.3L Superduty/450 is tip top. other than basic maintance hasn't had to much of a problem with it. My boss said that if they ever built the new ones like they did in 94 he wouldn't hesitate to buy another one.

Travel'n Trees
01-27-2007, 10:41 PM
I second the pre 97's are alot better.

GG386
01-27-2007, 11:40 PM
My call with powerstrokes is limited to the units that I've personally owned and they're history. The "00" E350 which probably does more towing than than the other F350's, hasn't shown an ounce of weakness. I'm not sure of the mileage (haven't drove it in years) but it's at LEAST 150,000. One thing to note, all trucks get serviced religiously. When I say that I mean it, not lip service.

I'm absolutely positive that the horror stories are out there, I just don't have any:clapping:

All vehicles were purchased new, where I'm thinking some of the problems we hear about stem from. When buying used your at the mercy of the previous owner who may or may not knew how to change oil! Believe me , I know that buying a new truck is not an option for a lot of people, but at least do a leakdown (best couple a hundred bucks you ever spent).

TPLawnPro
01-27-2007, 11:49 PM
I don't have an '06, but an '05. So far, 25,000 trouble-free miles.

2005 F-250 Lariat / FX4 / Crew Cab / 6.0 PowerStroke

K&M Lawn Care
01-28-2007, 12:05 AM
I have a 2006 F250 4x4 6 speed with about 8200 miles so far. No problems at all. Get a little over 20 mpg unloaded in mixed driving on B20.

GG386
01-28-2007, 12:43 AM
I have a 2006 F250 4x4 6 speed with about 8200 miles so far. No problems at all. Geta little over 20 mpg unloaded in mixed driving on B20.

K&M' did your mileage increase after a certain amount of miles? The talk is that they get better after 5k or so, did this happen to you? Hell, i even put a dual outlet 5" silverline from the turbo and I'm not seeing 14 yet, sure does the bling well though:)

Travel'n Trees
01-28-2007, 01:37 AM
I've had the 2001 f-550 , major failures within 9000 miles, 2003 f-350 less than 1000 miles, 2006 f-550 crew cab less than 3000 miles and at that motors blew. 2001 Duramax 155000 no major problems.

K&M Lawn Care
01-28-2007, 02:22 PM
K&M' did your mileage increase after a certain amount of miles? The talk is that they get better after 5k or so, did this happen to you? Hell, i even put a dual outlet 5" silverline from the turbo and I'm not seeing 14 yet, sure does the bling well though:)


Sorry, I don't know. The first time I ever checked milegae was around Thanksgiving and already had over 7000 miles on it. One thing that comes to mind is that I have heard the Ultra Low Sulfar Diesel gets less mileage. I have been buying biodiesel mixed with I think LSD. That may be part of the difference. Also is yours a 2006 or 2007? The 2007s I believe have different emissions equipment that might cause a loss of mileage.

How do you like the duals? Did you notice any more power or better mileage from them?

GG386
01-28-2007, 04:48 PM
Sorry, I don't know. The first time I ever checked milegae was around Thanksgiving and already had over 7000 miles on it. One thing that comes to mind is that I have heard the Ultra Low Sulfar Diesel gets less mileage. I have been buying biodiesel mixed with I think LSD. That may be part of the difference. Also is yours a 2006 or 2007? The 2007s I believe have different emissions equipment that might cause a loss of mileage.

How do you like the duals? Did you notice any more power or better mileage from them?

The truck is a "07" model year with the motor manufactured in "06", (not to be confused with "07" produced engines), which I think is the same motor that you own. The post 06 motors (Ford,GM,Dodge) will definitly have they're own threads in the future!

Not sure about the power dif. between single vrs. dual, like you I have nothing to compare it too. The exhaust was installed on the way home from the dealership. What I do know though, when it's on boost it is extremely quick for 5,500+ lb. truck, plus bling:weightlifter: . Sorry to say , fuel mileage is 13.8 according to my on board factory computer, not the best compared to my 7.3's.

You mention low sulfer mixed with LSD- you lost me on that one, or am I just dumb ass and missed out on the joke:hammerhead:

Guthrie&Co
01-28-2007, 05:42 PM
Sounds like some of you guys might be just hard on your equipment or asking it to do things it isnt meant to do in the first place.

Dirty Water
01-28-2007, 08:03 PM
I've owned a handful of Ford Products, and I'll never buy another one. In general, they have been the most unreliable vehicles I've owned.

glllc
01-28-2007, 09:29 PM
We have two 6.0L's a 2004 and a 2006 both have had no problems. Man do they have POWER!!!!!:weightlifter: :weightlifter: :weightlifter:

Travel'n Trees
01-29-2007, 03:23 AM
Gutherie,You are right I drove my 2 of my fords highway only, and the f-550 I hauled 4 tons of rock and one load of dirt 1.5 yrds. and ford said they weren't made for this. And I told the dealer what I would use the dump truck for.

Guthrie&Co
01-29-2007, 02:12 PM
Gutherie,You are right I drove my 2 of my fords highway only, and the f-550 I hauled 4 tons of rock and one load of dirt 1.5 yrds. and ford said they weren't made for this. And I told the dealer what I would use the dump truck for.

You have lost me for a bit.... were you hauling anything with the highway fords?? and what was the payload on the 550? i looked back at your last post and you said major failures and motors blew. fill me in on what happened

Gravel Rat
01-29-2007, 03:22 PM
Guthrie leave sleeping dogs lie we don't need to hear Traveling Trees complain about his Ford.

There is nothing wrong with the F-450 and F-550 trucks I know many out there hauling heavy loads everyday with no problems.

NonStop
01-29-2007, 04:26 PM
Sounds like some of you guys might be just hard on your equipment or asking it to do things it isnt meant to do in the first place.

I agree with this post. A buddy had a F350 6.0, put new intake, no cat, and a chip. It had all kinds of problems. I have a '06 F250 bone stock, put 40k on it in less than a year w/ a trailer most of the time and I've loved every mile.

Bottom line, it you need to enhance the motor to pull what you want, chances are the truck wasn't meant to haul it!

qualitylawnmanagement
01-29-2007, 06:30 PM
My dads buddy has a 05 F-350 with the 6.0 well over 175,000 miles on cause he does hauling for trailer company's. The only problem he had was his turbo kept blowing, but other than that it is an awesome truck. But if it were up to me I would by a duramax with the Alison transmission. My next truck will have this.

Travel'n Trees
01-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Highway miles were coming back from dealer empty. I am sorry Gravel Rat but I passed another dealership closed last weekend. I am happy. Let people know the truth, no need to bury your head in the sand. Ford products are what they are let people have educated opinion, I wish the diesel stop.com (Khansel) wasn't taking off all of the negative posts, once he was stopped look at all the problems on there. Some people might not want to role the dice and risk saving $5k buying a ford and losing $40k to $50k the first year they own it. I Guarentee it cost me more than that, those are just receipts. not includiding loss of work jacking with it. Under warranty, but remember the waranty is only as good as the manufacture.

start2finish
01-29-2007, 10:58 PM
everyone has their stories, but we own 2 ford powerstrokes
1999 F-350 DRW 4x4 7.3 PSD 192000 miles still rolling (cam sensor or two and a wheel bearing)

2000 F-250 SRW 7.3 PSD 135000 miles still rolling (cam sensor or two, nothing else)

now both these trucks are hooked to a gooseneck 80% of the time and are loaded to the gills. TL150 and KX 161-3S (10,850 loader, and 13854 excavator) they get the job done, as for mileage if you want mileage buy a car. we get 7 miles to the gallon towing these loads, but that's kind of like checking your mileage in a hummer. LOL. empty they could do better, ut my 2 tons are these only other tow vehicles we have and they are luvky at 5 MPG

Travel'n Trees
01-30-2007, 03:02 AM
Cam sensors, fuel filters, ecms,fuel lines. My dealers told me I should always carry two spares with me.

LawnDawg65
01-30-2007, 07:25 AM
Personally I have 3 6.0's and have no problems

Bond's Lawn Keepers
01-30-2007, 07:25 PM
I had a 03 ford 6.0 with 80,000 miles no problem, so i bought another ford 06,f350 4x4. Just like the last one no problems. Some people can't handle all of this power it has. I pull a 20ft enclosed every day full of exmark mowers. Very pleased with it.

dirtybiz
01-30-2007, 10:29 PM
Had an 03 6.ohno with nothing but problems, really sucked, cuz i have been driving fords since i could see over the steering wheel, and bleed blue. But i sold it after the horrible service and many trips to dealership and bought a 06 Dodge Cummins, love it, not been to dealership once, pulls like a train. Definately not as fun as the ford, and the truck is not as nice, but i need something to get the job done, not fun factor. However my dad has an 06 PSD with 25k on it and no problems, think they finally figured out how to make them run somewhere during the 05 model year. He had an 04 before that with nothing but problems too, however he was dumb enough to buy another one, hopefully it turns out alright for him. I think the 06 and later are fine. Good luck.

corey4671
01-30-2007, 10:35 PM
I will never own a Ford product again, ever. They are crap. I have owned an escort, an explorer, and an F150. The car never made it past 35,000 miles the Explorer had problems from with the electronics from the begining so I traded it in for a 2002 Jeep liberty (which now has 87,000 miles on it with no problems at all) and the truck had an engine fire at 63,000 and then the trannie froze up at 67,000 and that is when I decided to never own a ford product again. If you are going to buy somthing buy a GMC (Chevy) maybe a Dodge. I would rather tow my stuff with a 10 speed bike than buy another Ford.

AMEN! Ford's..especially Powerstrokes are overrated.. i simply do not understand the fascination folks have with these POS's. Every Ford I have ever driven has just FELT like junk. GM all the way baby!

Repairs
01-30-2007, 11:41 PM
I had two powerstrokes(7.3 and 6.0) before buying my current Duramax LBZ. If you are looking for the most reliable best pulling truck with low end grunt, and lowest cost to operate, DO NOT BUY A 6.0 POWERSTROKE. Ford screwed the pooch on this one, and it does not even compare with the earlier 7.3 powerstrokes. I drove my 6.0 to 111k, just out of warranty, then the oil cooler blew out on it. Dealer quote was 4900.00 to fix by the time the entire cooling system had to be replaced. That coupled with five diffferent reprograms, one faulty instrument cluster, three water in fuel modules, two egr valves, two turbo actuators, faulty injectors, cracked coolant resivoir, broken filterminder. Seriously I can list more but the thing was the most unrelialbe poorly engineered truck I have owned. Come on look under the hood, and then compare it to a dodge or a gm diesel. It looks like they were trying to engineer complication into the mix. Don't get me wrong, I love the superduty trucks, and even prefer them over the gm or dodge trucks, but ford has got some serious work to do to bring the engine up to par.

Travel'n Trees
01-31-2007, 01:14 AM
Bonds we drove a 570 hp(dynoed) c-5 corvette 125k miles. Twisted a tsb'd drive shaft, even though I had over 30k in mods to and 100k miles Gm warrantied it. They knew there was a problem and fixed it. And as far as diesels go I got a 2001 3/4 ton dually, duramax 160k miles, 1 alternator, 2 water hoses and a belt tensioner, and 2 U-Joints, and injectors (warrantied at 140K). This truck is always loaded both truck and trailer. I also have a f-550 never had a real load, never felt like it could handle it. You obvoiusly which one has alot more power.

Guthrie&Co
02-01-2007, 09:01 PM
I haven'y found anything my 99 psd with 250hp and 550 torque couldn't pull reasonably. although i would like a longer wheel base and 350 or larger brake setup. i have pulled a gross combination up to 22,960k

Mowtown Mike
02-07-2007, 08:29 PM
I love my '06 F-350, 6.0 diesel dump truck. It has 14,000 miles, lots of power, starts up good in this cold weather(no plug) My friend has a 250 with the 6.0 psd and no problems as well. He has about 30,000 miles. It is my first Ford. Very happy.

Repairs
02-07-2007, 08:41 PM
I love my '06 F-350, 6.0 diesel dump truck. It has 14,000 miles, lots of power, starts up good in this cold weather(no plug) My friend has a 250 with the 6.0 psd and no problems as well. He has about 30,000 miles. It is my first Ford. Very happy.

Mike, they are nice trucks no doubt, but think hard and long before you keep them out of the 100k warranty period.