Pro-lockers for Honda 21"

[jsf343]

Pro-lockers for Honda 21"

Hello, anyone know if pro-lockers is still in business? I have wrote a few e-mails to them with questions but nobody ever responds. Little strange.
My question (again) is regarding new Honda 21" mowers. As of last year I was told there was no lockers for the new Honda's (by Pro-lockers) but that some would be designed and they were interested in having us demo them for the company, and to stay in touch. They also took my info but have yet to call back or e-mail. (this was last spring and again in the fall) We have tried in vain to get in touch (via e-mail and phone) I left an e-mail again the other day, still nothing. I figure if a thread is started maybe there will be a response. I am sympathetic to the time of year and the fact that they may be busy but some kind of response would be appreciated.

Pro-lockers if you do read this, I am willing and want to move forward with you if you are interested, I am NOT mad or trying to bash you, I am just a bit confused on what is going on with you guys. I am only interested in a product for my Honda's, either you can do it or you can't. Please respond one way or another so that I and others on here know what is going on with the new Honda lock-ups.
I am sure there are others who may be interested as well and maybe want to add their 2 cents as well.
*** note to others responding*** I am not trying to start a bash session here but if you are experiencing a similar problem feel free to add what you want . Please keep it tactful, focus on the problem or issue NOT people. Who knows maybe I am the only one having an issue.

thanks, Jeff

[daveintoledo]

why in the name of god would anyone need pro lockers for a 21 inch mower??????

[jsf343]

What don't you get?! I haul a 52" and 2 -21"s on the trailer, the 21's need to be locked up so they are not rolling all around just like the big mowers. In some cases I run with 3- 21's. Does this answer your question? God is spelled with a big G by the way.

[Cracker Station]

Little mowers like that need eyebolts and tarp straps. If I don't trust the neighborhood, also use cable and lock. Later Ya'll. Cracker

[jsf343]

Little mowers like that need eyebolts and tarp straps. If I don't trust the neighborhood, also use cable and lock. Later Ya'll. Cracker

I have used those in the past and it causes nothing but headaches. The starps tear up the bags, if you don't run them over the bags you add one more step of having to take the bags off and figure out where to secure them. If you just try to run them behind the engine it tears up the throttle and tranny cables.

[daveintoledo]

What don't you get?! I haul a 52" and 2 -21"s on the trailer, the 21's need to be locked up so they are not rolling all around just like the big mowers. In some cases I run with 3- 21's. Does this answer your question? God is spelled with a big G by the way.

so you havent been able to figure out how to easily and inexpensivly secure a 21 inch mower on a trailor.... ok.. i see

and maybe YOUR god is spelled with a capital G buy MY god is spelled with a small g, my god is not pretentious:)

i wasnt being a wise guy, i really dont see the need ...

[jsf343]

so you havent been able to figure out how to easily and inexpensivly secure a 21 inch mower on a trailor.... ok.. i see

and maybe YOUR god is spelled with a capital G buy MY god is spelled with a small g, my god is not pretentious:)

i wasnt being a wise guy, i really dont see the need ...

actually I have been able to secure it. I am just not very happy with it.
if you have a good idea I would love to hear it. This site is all about sharing ideas and info. I would love to hear yours if you have something constructive to offer.
As for God, You can spell it how you want, if you don't believe in or respect Him then that is completly your choice and I can't force, or tell you what to do. (not what I was trying to do)
I guess I took what you said as a little bit abrasive, maybe I read your 1st post wrong. I just didn't understand the need to comment like you did, but hey whatever, in todays world you can say whatever you want, to whomever you want, however you want to right? Here is my deal, I wouldn't be asking Pro-lockers about a lock set up for my 21's if I didn't need to lock them up right? if maybe I wasn't looking for a different set up? I have used other things. I am wanting something simpler, quicker and
less damaging to the mower and trailer. Not saying pro-lockers are the answer but That is what I am trying to get answers for.

[daveintoledo]

i used to just use a cargo strap attached to the sides of the trailor.... it never budged an inch...

i guess when i think about it, there could be some positives to such a set up....problem i have with eye bolts is if im in a hurry, i could see myself possibly puncturing a tire loading the bigger mowers...:cry:

id be interested to see how they would design such a thing, not crazy about the ones they have for the z's...while ive never used them, they seem pretty expensive and maybe a bit combersome, but i know there are people here who love them.... except the guy who lost his caster, that was a weird thread..:dizzy:

[Cracker Station]

i guess when i think about it, there could be some positives to such a set up....problem i have with eye bolts is if im in a hurry, i could see myself possibly puncturing a tire loading the bigger mowers...:cry:


I have an 18 ft dovetail carhaul type trailer. No sides on it. The 21's go all the way to the front. I run tarp straps or bungee cords or whatever you want to call them through the larger rear wheels and across the deck, under the cables. Then behind them all the way to the right is the Quick 36. Then behind it is the Exmark Lazer HP. It sits to the left side, slightly forward of center of the tandem axles. So, no chance of puncturing a tire. Just what works for me. Later Ya'll. Cracker

[jsf343]

i used to just use a cargo strap attached to the sides of the trailor.... it never budged an inch...

i guess when i think about it, there could be some positives to such a set up....problem i have with eye bolts is if im in a hurry, i could see myself possibly puncturing a tire loading the bigger mowers...:cry:

id be interested to see how they would design such a thing, not crazy about the ones they have for the z's...while ive never used them, they seem pretty expensive and maybe a bit combersome, but i know there are people here who love them.... except the guy who lost his caster, that was a weird thread..:dizzy:

Now that you mention it I do remember that thread, never saw the final outcome though.
ok, when you are talking cargo straps do you mean like the ratchet straps? or something wider and thicker? I use ratchet straps but like I said earlier, it tears up the bag. I want something that can go across the bag so it holds the bag in place. That is 1 min. less that we would have to spend per mower dinking around trying to secure the bags. (1 min. x 3 mowers = 3 min.load, 3 or so min unload= 5-6 min. total per house. 5 or 6 min per house x 20 or so in a day= lets just say 100 min. total time lost) see why I want to leave the bags on? ok this is getting away from original topic of securing the mower.
anyway, talk more about these cargo straps.

[jsf343]

i guess when i think about it, there could be some positives to such a set up....problem i have with eye bolts is if im in a hurry, i could see myself possibly puncturing a tire loading the bigger mowers...:cry:


I have an 18 ft dovetail carhaul type trailer. No sides on it. The 21's go all the way to the front. I run tarp straps or bungee cords or whatever you want to call them through the larger rear wheels and across the deck, under the cables. Then behind them all the way to the right is the Quick 36. Then behind it is the Exmark Lazer HP. It sits to the left side, slightly forward of center of the tandem axles. So, no chance of puncturing a tire. Just what works for me. Later Ya'll. Cracker

Cracker, you leave the bags on?

[daveintoledo]

they are the same as ratchet straps so i guess that wont do.... have to let us know what the solution ends up being

[PTP]

I had my welder build me something that really worked well for the 21" mowers. Viewed from the top, it kind of looks like a C with all of the corners squared off. It is about 6 or so inches high. Basically, you just lift up the front tires of the mower and drop the tire down into the unit. It can't slide from side to side and it would have to bounce up over 6" in order to come out the top. Are you getting the picture?

I saw something like this on a trailer accessory website (can't remember which one) for $50. My welder charged me $15.

[jsf343]

I had my welder build me something that really worked well for the 21" mowers. Viewed from the top, it kind of looks like a C with all of the corners squared off. It is about 6 or so inches high. Basically, you just lift up the front tires of the mower and drop the tire down into the unit. It can't slide from side to side and it would have to bounce up over 6" in order to come out the top. Are you getting the picture?

I saw something like this on a trailer accessory website (can't remember which one) for $50. My welder charged me $15.

whaaaaaat? now we are talking. That sounds simple, and quick? can you find a link or send me a picture of what you are describing? I would be very interested in seeing that.

[jsf343]

I had my welder build me something that really worked well for the 21" mowers. Viewed from the top, it kind of looks like a C with all of the corners squared off. It is about 6 or so inches high. Basically, you just lift up the front tires of the mower and drop the tire down into the unit. It can't slide from side to side and it would have to bounce up over 6" in order to come out the top. Are you getting the picture?

I saw something like this on a trailer accessory website (can't remember which one) for $50. My welder charged me $15.

By the way, I thought you got out of this business and got into real estate.
how is that going? I followed your thread on growing your business with a lot of interest. Then when you got into real estate I was following that as well because my wife and I are trying to get to that point. I have 2 little ones though with a 3rd on the way. It is hard to save up enough moo-la because it seems like we always need it for something else. I'm sure you can relate,
who can't right?

[jsf343]

they are the same as ratchet straps so i guess that wont do.... have to let us know what the solution ends up being

Thanks Dave, I'll keep you informed if I can find something.:waving:

[PTP]

whaaaaaat? now we are talking. That sounds simple, and quick? can you find a link or send me a picture of what you are describing? I would be very interested in seeing that.

I can't find the product online. I think that I may have seen it on Jungle Jim's site but that doesn't seem to be working right now. I can't take a picture because all of my equipment is gone to my foreman now.

l--------l
l xxxxx l
l xxxxx l
l xxxxx l
l xxxxx
l xxxxx
l xxxxx
l xxxxx
l xxxxx
l-------l

That would be a view from the top of the front left tire. The x's represent the tire and the other marks are the boot. Very simple and very effective. Also, since you are not tying anything down, there is 0 time wasted on that aspect of things.

[PTP]

By the way, I thought you got out of this business and got into real estate.
how is that going? I followed your thread on growing your business with a lot of interest. Then when you got into real estate I was following that as well because my wife and I are trying to get to that point. I have 2 little ones though with a 3rd on the way. It is hard to save up enough moo-la because it seems like we always need it for something else. I'm sure you can relate,
who can't right?

I did get out of the business - sort of. My foreman is taking over. I still own the business but he is doing all of the day to day operations. Lawnsite is a difficult habit to break though.

As far as real estate goes, it is something that many people want to do but only a few take the plunge. There is a book that I have been reading lately that is called Real Estate Investing In Canada by Don R Campbell. Obviously, it caters to the Canadian market but the principles are universal. I recommend it.

If you (or anyone else) want to PM me about this, I am always willing to talk. I don't know everything but I know were to find most of the answers.

[jsf343]

Thank you for the reply! I will e-mail you later, I am headin out the door with the fam right now. I am very interested in talking with you more. I wish there was a real-estate site similar to this site so we could post questions and learn more. I will talk to you more later, thanks again.

Jeff

[Cracker Station]

Cracker, you leave the bags on?

No.......never bag until I do leaves.........I do keep the bags in the cage tho if by chance I need them. Come to think of it, I went all last year and never bagged clippings at all. Later. Cracker

["Ground Control"]

Here is something from jungle jims used for holding 21' mowers in place, i think it is exactly what you want. They are $29.95
http://www.junglejimsap.com/jungleboot.html

[jsf343]

Here is something from jungle jims used for holding 21' mowers in place, i think it is exactly what you want. They are $29.95
http://www.junglejimsap.com/jungleboot.html

perfect. I wonder if it will fit the new style of wheel though?

["Ground Control"]

I am not sure about that. I have 3 honda 21's and the wheels on the newer ones are about an inch bigger than those on the older one. I sent Jungle Jim's an e-mail asking what the dimensions are so ill have an answer for you soon. (I'm thinking about getting some too)

[jsf343]

I am not sure about that. I have 3 honda 21's and the wheels on the newer ones are about an inch bigger than those on the older one. I sent Jungle Jim's an e-mail asking what the dimensions are so ill have an answer for you soon. (I'm thinking about getting some too)

thats great, thanks for doing that! I am curious if they would work. The trailer in your pic looks exactly like mine and would be set up the same way as well.

["Ground Control"]

Ok, the lady from Jungle Jim's just e-mailed me back and she said that the small one for push mowers is adjustable to fit all sizes. I don't really see how it could be adjustable from the picture, but i guess she should know what she is talking about.