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eddings
02-09-2007, 12:52 PM
How many lawns per hour do you average? Lawn size 1/4-1/3 acre lots. This assumes the houses are within a small distance of each other.

JS Landscaping
02-09-2007, 03:08 PM
If they are small and close together, my crew of myself and 3 other guys can knock at least 10 of them out an hour, with 2 guys on Z's, 2 guys trimming, and who ever gets done first does the blowing. Thats if they are all close to eachother with little movement from the truck. We service one development where we take care of every lawn but one, the guy rather do it himself. All the lawns are roughly 1 acre in size and we are in and out in roughly 3 hours. And thats doing 11 lawns, right next to eachother. Some take a little more some take a little less, it ends up being a very profitable stop cause the truck stops once for those 3 hours.

dKoester
02-09-2007, 06:31 PM
It all depends on the size of cut the deck has.

Wells
02-09-2007, 07:49 PM
my crew of myself and 3 other guys can knock at least 10 of them out an hour, with 2 guys on Z's, 2 guys trimming, and who ever gets done first does the blowing.

Thats (1) property every (6) minutes..........even with (4) guys I would have to see it to believe it. That would also mean your crew could mow 80 properties in a (8) hour period.

Realistically a 2 person crew could service a 1/4 to 1/3 acre property every 15-20 minutes. I would guess the average would be somewhere around 4 or 5 per hour.

JS Landscaping
02-10-2007, 01:10 AM
Well if these properties are one next to another it can be done. If there is load and unload time then that goes out the window. I was figuring in a development setting where the truck parks once and the guys roll out and go right down the line. We have a few developments like this that are easy lawns. Its not hard to do a lawn in 6 minutes with 2 Z's going.

wowmowwow
02-10-2007, 01:24 AM
3 yards. solo or with two people

smcunningham
02-10-2007, 02:51 AM
my best hallin a** is 3 :weightlifter:

Roger
02-10-2007, 07:34 AM
I reserve 1:00 to 1:15 for each property. The shortest time to complete is 0:35, the longest is about 2:00. But, most require about 1:15 to finish.

This question is meaningless in terms of the general population of LCOs. It has great meaning for each one of us because it relates to what equipment we decide to buy, how we work, how we charge, expenses, market prices for the areas we work, etc. Everybody must reach their own level of productivity, their own level of pricing, their own level of investment, ... all for the goal of profitability.

What is the intent of the original question?

WJW Lawn
02-10-2007, 09:14 AM
10 yards in an hour????? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!

Grass Kickin
02-10-2007, 09:22 AM
A good 4 man crew should finish a lawn in 10 minutes....1/4 acre. This has plenty of relevance for a business owner. It affects scheduling, employess, overall profit etc.

Tom c.
02-10-2007, 10:54 AM
Lets put the question in this perspective: Solo operater average 1/4 acre lots with baggin, string trimming, loading, unloading, blowinggrass off walkways and driveway, closing up gate! grab a bottle of water and head down the road. Now if you add a helper to trim and blow how much quicker does this make you? Now I do about 3-4 50x100 size yards in about 3 hrs. usually in the same neighborhood, maybe a block apart. Whats your average time in the same scenario either way with a helper or without? Now be honest!!!:confused:

Metro Lawn
02-10-2007, 12:40 PM
We average about 6 per hour overall, but have 15 homes on 1 street that can be done in about 50 minutes with a 3 man crew. (these are only 5,000 sq ft. each on average)

Duekster
02-10-2007, 12:56 PM
10 yards in an hour????? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!

That was my first though but he was using a Z turn too. If he could run across several yards side by side it would be do able.

JS Landscaping
02-10-2007, 01:15 PM
Its not hard to do 10 in an hour if you efficent. Like i said this is only possible if they are easy flat lawns that are one after another next to eachother. This is with 2 52" bobcat Z's going, and 2 guys on trimmers. We have a development where we work in that is rediculously easy to cut, very little trimming, mainly just around the houses and the edging, the lawns are all flat, no bagging. These are done every week so the grass never gets a chance to get too high to where it takes more time. The truck parks once, and everyone rolls out. I have my lawns down to where each guy knows what he is suposed to do and does it. I guess you could say im a bit of a Drill instructor with my guys, i push them but i make sure its done right the first time. If one guy happens to get done with trimming before the other one he is to jump on one of the WB's and keep cutting, while the other one starts blowing out each property. My guys know not to be standing around while the rest finish up. a 52" Z can roughly do 2.5 acres an hour, multiply that by 2, and we are cutting roughly 5 acres an hour. 10, 1/4 acre lots is easily done in an hour, as long as they are right next to eachother, one after the other. :waving: Dont mean to start a pissing contest on here, but it all comes down to what your equpiment is, how close your accounts are, how many employees you have. It varries for everyone.

Bingham Brothers
02-10-2007, 01:29 PM
My best is 7 in about an hour. This is with a 2 person crew and all are on the same block so we don't even move the truck. We use Honda HRC 216 21" since the yards are small (normal size for this area) We get an average of $23 a yard. I would love to have this tight of route for all accounts-- I would sleep much better at night.

topsites
02-10-2007, 01:38 PM
I think topics such as these, although ultimately productive in their intent, may influence one to have a mindset that more is better.

Servicing an entire county solo, for me the average distance between any two houses is 5 miles, and it takes 15-20 minutes between loading / unloading and everything involved to cover said distance. And, my lots range from 1/4 acre to a full acre in size.

That having been said, I usually average 1 lot / hour, maybe slightly more on a good day, 1.2 / hour or so, but not much more.
So that, if I get started at 9 am, by 7p I can usually have 10 done.
While 10 / day is nice, I must've cut 10 / day every day for 3 months straight 2 years ago.
Then last year I might've got 10 done once or twice, but my usual was 8...
Yet last year was my best year financially, by a considerable margin.

As for crews getting it done faster, although the exception does exist, I have yet to see this happening on a consistent basis.

lawnpro724
02-10-2007, 05:30 PM
My two man crew averages 4 an hr if there close together if there not it more like 3. That why I like doing large commercial accounts, lots of work in one place.

echeandia
02-11-2007, 09:33 AM
A good 4 man crew should finish a lawn in 10 minutes....1/4 acre.

How long does it take to unload and load a trailer these four guys used?

twj721
02-11-2007, 01:01 PM
my biggest property it takes 1 61" and 1- 72" mower and 1 trimmer 16.0 to 20 hrs to do we are geared up more for large properties than small yards our smallest property takes us 15 mins .twj

gringo gardener
02-11-2007, 05:15 PM
here in FL the typical (80x125 incl. house) lot will take about 35-40 mins for a solo op .. 2-3 man crews should be able to boost performance to 2.5/3 lots hr

Vikings
02-11-2007, 05:17 PM
Last year I would do 10 lawns in 8 hours by myself (on a bad leg) with a 21" mower. Lawns were 5-10k average. This year I will have 36" and maybe a 48", I'm hoping to speed things up significantly.

Roger
02-11-2007, 09:28 PM
Vikings ... what percent of your time (of the 8 hours) was spent trimming, edging, and blowing off debris?

Vikings
02-12-2007, 01:00 AM
I got very fast at trimming, even my largest yard, 13000 sq ft only took me 5 mins. and I didn't do any edging though I'm thinking of offering it this year. I would use the trimmer to blow off small areas in the backyard so I wouldn't have to go back there with the back pack blower.

Pictur Perfect Lawns
02-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Thats not really a true service though. I don't know anyone around here that would hire and even if they did keep an LCO that didn't edge their property. Clean edging and cracks and can help make or break a lawn!

eddings
02-12-2007, 10:29 AM
I was only trying to get an idea from some people in the biz. I have a 52" Toro ZTR, a 36" Toro WB, and a 21" Toro push. I will have one person helping me this year. I have several large res. yards that are upwards of an acre. They took me around 45min to mow by myself. I have several 1/4 acre lots that took me around 20-30 min. to mow. Most all of my lawns are within 5 miles of my house. I have 5 lawns that are farther, but I am hoping to pick up more that direction or in the same hood to make it more profitable. I was hoping I could average about 3/hour. for the week. Some days more some days less. That would gross me $105/hour, or at 2/hr it would gross me $70/hour. I would be very pleased with that for this year.

As a teacher I gross $23/hour, and that doesn't include commute time of 1hr per day. If I include that it would be $20.4/hr.

I am not planning on quiting my day job, just adding in a few $ to the mix.

I have 17 accounts right now. I am shooting for 30. I wanted to know how many I could get done after school during the week, So that my weekends are free.

Duekster
02-12-2007, 10:47 AM
Focus on where you already have accounts. Use existing accounts to sell others. The less you load and un-load the more productive you will be.

Two guys are typically faster than one after working on a routine.

30 is likely a good goal for part time work but who is going to want to keep the same hours as you? Another teacher?

eddings
02-12-2007, 11:07 AM
A student that I have know. I have known him and his dad for about 5yrs. He is a junior and will be around for another year and a half.

martinfan06
02-12-2007, 01:40 PM
Its not hard to do 10 in an hour if you efficent. Like i said this is only possible if they are easy flat lawns that are one after another next to eachother. This is with 2 52" bobcat Z's going, and 2 guys on trimmers. We have a development where we work in that is rediculously easy to cut, very little trimming, mainly just around the houses and the edging, the lawns are all flat, no bagging. These are done every week so the grass never gets a chance to get too high to where it takes more time. The truck parks once, and everyone rolls out. I have my lawns down to where each guy knows what he is suposed to do and does it. I guess you could say im a bit of a Drill instructor with my guys, i push them but i make sure its done right the first time. If one guy happens to get done with trimming before the other one he is to jump on one of the WB's and keep cutting, while the other one starts blowing out each property. My guys know not to be standing around while the rest finish up. a 52" Z can roughly do 2.5 acres an hour, multiply that by 2, and we are cutting roughly 5 acres an hour. 10, 1/4 acre lots is easily done in an hour, as long as they are right next to eachother, one after the other. :waving: Dont mean to start a pissing contest on here, but it all comes down to what your equpiment is, how close your accounts are, how many employees you have. It varries for everyone.



I agree...... we had an area when I was working for a company nickname the culdasack which was 8 lawns mostly all togther. 2 man crew 1 mowing 1 all else, 54"z and I would have all the trimming and edgeing done and already be blowing off before the mower was done then the mower would help finish blowing off. There is a techninck to it if your walking your equipment is doing somthing, so many times I see guys jumping all around wasting time to walk 40 yrds to trim something then walk the same path right back, then later walk right back by that area again :hammerhead:. So with the right knowledge it can be done.