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Edgemaster
02-14-2007, 09:41 PM
We're gonna try pulling pipe instead of trenching and see how it goes. I've been looking for a supplier of saddle tee's but haveing trouble. Whats the best style? I've seen the kind that pierce the pipe for you and have heard about the ones that you glue on and drill the hole. I plan on trying pvc to start so i need some that will work with pvc, not poly. Thanks

Remote Pigtails
02-14-2007, 10:29 PM
http://www.dawnindustries.com/index_flash.php

Take a look at this company. I've used theirs before sparingly.

PurpHaze
02-14-2007, 10:45 PM
I've used saddle tees a couple of times on 3" and 4" PVC but we didn't pull the pipe in. :)

One has lasted over twelve years now without any problems. However, when we glued it on we also bound it with a couple of 5" diameter hose clamps just to be on the safe side until things set up properly. :laugh:

Wet_Boots
02-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Check out these saddles (http://www.blazingproducts.com/products/saddles/saddle.html) - not for sch 40 pipe, as far as I know.

justgeorge
02-15-2007, 07:19 AM
I get mine from my supplier, JDL. The other local supplier here also carries them so I would think that any irrigation supply house would have them.

George

PurpHaze
02-15-2007, 09:14 AM
Gotta remember that supply houses (even large nation-wide suppliers that may show an item in their national catalog) will cut back on those items that don't sell well in a particular area. No sense using precious stocking space for an item that doesn't go out the door that often. For example, if trenching is prevalent in an area the supply of poly and their fittings for pulling pipe may not be as readily available.

Our local Ewing used to not carry the Hunter WVC controllers because apparently nobody in the area was using them. According to them we were the first to start asking for them although they did stock the SVC. When we first started switching to their use our local Ewing store would get them from another store or distribution center within a couple of days. Now they keep some of them on hand for us because we order them on a semi-regular basis.

Remote Pigtails
02-15-2007, 09:51 AM
That is a good point because my JDL stocks spears but in another thread it is said he can only get Lasco from JDL. Plus I have to request saddles they aren't normally stocked.

Dirty Water
02-15-2007, 01:22 PM
Just use regular tee's and slide the pulled pipe. I've installed thousands this way.

justgeorge
02-15-2007, 03:26 PM
true but saddle tees means less digging and no sliding = faster install.

Critical Care
02-19-2007, 08:03 PM
Has anyone used Spears clamp-on saddles?

http://www.spearsmfg.com/prod_brochures/COS-2-0804_0305.pdf

I've never gone the route of using saddles at all in my work, and I've especially been apprehensive of the glue-on types holding up under pressure. The Spears call for 8 or 10 pounds of torque when tightening, but I wonder how many people are actually using a torque wrench to do this?

Dirty Water
02-19-2007, 08:47 PM
Those spears tee's are only 2"+.

Critical Care
02-20-2007, 09:31 PM
Those spears tee's are only 2"+.

That is true. The catalog that shows their other saddle tees is here:

http://www.spears.com/prod_dimensions_spec/40-4-0206_0206.indd.pdf

They offer a pressure rating for the bolt on saddle tees, but not for the glue on types, including the snap on saddles. For that information they say to contact them. Uh, okay...

PurpHaze
02-20-2007, 11:07 PM
They offer a pressure rating for the bolt on saddle tees, but not for the glue on types, including the snap on saddles. For that information they say to contact them. Uh, okay...

Although I've never been disappointed with a Spears fitting I'm kind of leery when any manufacturer says "contact us" regarding the specs on a product. If they can't openly state which ANSI, ASTM, AWWA, etc. appropriate specifications (via catalog, fact sheet, internet site, etc.) are met then it kind of makes me wonder.

LCPullman
02-22-2007, 02:01 AM
I have used the Dawn KwikTap saddle tees for Poly ( http://www.dawnindustries.com/tap/tap.pdf ) and the Blazing saddle ( http://www.blazingproducts.com/products/saddles/index.html ). Both worked well. MY distributor carries the KwikTap so that is what I have used mostly. These saddle tees won't work for Sch 40 PVC.

By the way, if you want to try them out, you can order the Blazing Saddle Tees from Sprinkler Warehouse for contractor prices. http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/default.aspx

bicmudpuppy
02-22-2007, 06:39 AM
I have used the Dawn KwikTap saddle tees for Poly ( http://www.dawnindustries.com/tap/tap.pdf ) and the Blazing saddle ( http://www.blazingproducts.com/products/saddles/index.html ). Both worked well. MY distributor carries the KwikTap so that is what I have used mostly. These saddle tees won't work for Sch 40 PVC.

By the way, if you want to try them out, you can order the Blazing Saddle Tees from Sprinkler Warehouse for contractor prices. http://www.sprinklerwarehouse.com/default.aspx

If your fortunate enough to be in an area with a sprinkler supply house or two, catch the King rep, and you can usually get a bag or two of blazzing saddles to try.