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bigkyle
02-20-2007, 03:33 PM
Ok i have been reading through diff posts about power washing and i was woundering what everyone uses to do it. As do people only use water or chemicals or what. I am pretty confused about what is used to get the job done.Thanks

Mow2nd-2
02-20-2007, 05:07 PM
i use just water with about 3500 psi pressure washer, it takes me between and hour to an hour and a half to do an average size driveway

bigkyle
02-20-2007, 05:11 PM
thank you. that was a big help to me. Would a 2500psi work for doing driveways, patios,decks,walk ways

bigkyle
02-20-2007, 05:16 PM
would somethinglike this be ok

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEAVY-DUTY-5-5-2500-PSI-GAS-HIGH-PRESSURE-POWER-WASHER_W0QQitemZ230092328287QQihZ013QQcategoryZ50388QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mow2nd-2
02-20-2007, 05:30 PM
yeah that will work. but the more psi you have the faster you can go. when i started i used a 1500 psi and on average it would take 2 1/2 to 3 hours to clean a driveway.

Mow2nd-2
02-20-2007, 05:31 PM
also i would find a pressure washer with a honda motor.

bigkyle
02-20-2007, 05:33 PM
why a honda engine

Mow2nd-2
02-20-2007, 05:38 PM
if your wanting to use a surface cleaner you need at least 3000 psi. i just use a wand with 25 degree tip, as i find that it is easier to spot clean, and the surface cleaners to be more of a hassle to move around and operate.

Mow2nd-2
02-20-2007, 05:41 PM
honda motors last forever, as long as you keep the oil changed. my 3500 psi is 4 yrs old and never had a problem with it at all, i've done around 1000-1500 driveways with it

garrettlawn
02-20-2007, 06:04 PM
for pressure washing would you take a tank around on your trailer or just hook up to the customers water for like driveways and walls etc..

Mow2nd-2
02-20-2007, 07:57 PM
i use customers water. i have only had one person complain about it out of 1500

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
02-20-2007, 08:01 PM
We run a full service pw operation with hot water and no tank we use the customers water.

garrettlawn
02-20-2007, 09:46 PM
might be something worth looking into after this busy season slows down.

alternative
02-21-2007, 07:05 AM
People actually pay you to pwr wash the driveway? What do you charge if it takes you 1.5 hrs?

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
02-21-2007, 07:53 AM
Prices start at over $200 for houses,leavin in a few min to pw 2 houses today.

bigkyle
02-21-2007, 09:08 AM
i wounder if there is a big calling for it here in rochester ny. Any ideas on how i can find out?

Total.Lawn.Care
02-21-2007, 11:08 AM
Here is a link to teh thread of the PW Rig I am building.

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=175249

525 galon tank
4 GPM, 4000 PSI Hot/Cold PW unit
50 Chemical Tank
3 GPM, 45 psi 12vDC Chemical Pump.

These pictures do not show it compete yet. I mounted hose reels last night and will finish up a few things tonight.

IF you want to effectively do driveways in a timely manner, you need about 3.5 to 4 gallons per minute. FOr alot of applications, the GMP is more important that the PSI.

PSI breaks the dirt and grime loose, the GPM wash it away. To much PSI on concrete and you will force your chemical into the concrete and cause problems down the road.

Hot water works better for cleaning concrete as well and allows you to finish the job quicker. I also recommend a surface cleaner for more consistent results and more time effecient.

bigkyle
02-21-2007, 11:34 AM
wow that is a really nice set up. How long has it taken you to get it all set up.

Total.Lawn.Care
02-21-2007, 11:48 AM
Started planning about a month ago. Last Monday (Feb 12th) I piced up the trailer and the tanks. Tuesday Evening bought the pressure washer and surface cleaner.

Wed. night, lettered the tank and plumbed it out. Thursday night, mounted PW unit to trailer, and mounted the tanks and the 12vDC pump. Friday night and Sat, removed axles and mounted them under the springs (Extra suspention travel gain with weight of full water tank) and completed plumbing to the PW unit.

Last night, mounted hose reels (not yet shown) and wound up 200' of PW hose and 300' if chemical hose and mounted the Deep Cycle battery. Once I plumb up the reels today, she will be complete.

PW is a big business, and if you want to add it to your lawn care, you can do really well. But like anything else, do not scrimp on equipment. If you want to make good money at it, get the right equipment and look for commercial contracts (gas station fueling pads, restaurant hood cleaning and sidewalks, shopping center sidewalks, heavy equipment, truck fleets, etc.) There is a ton of business to be had with Pressure Washing, but you need the right equipment.

ATVracer
02-21-2007, 12:17 PM
Make sure your insurance company covers this service.

Total.Lawn.Care
02-21-2007, 12:37 PM
Make sure your insurance company covers this service.

I am on top of this. I am waiting on some information now from the guy that I bought the Pressure Washer Unit from. He subcontracts alot of work, and he had insurance requirements that I will have to maintain to work for his company. I have already given my Ins Agent a heads up tha this is comming, and he said that I was already covered as far as the liability is concerned for PW services.

Mow2nd-2
02-21-2007, 02:56 PM
i only PW about 3 months out of the year, when grass slows down. but i charge 75 per driveway, and as someone else said i also charge min. 200 per house. One major thing is choose your neighborhoods carefully, if the neighborhood is real old the driveways will take alot longer but the responce will be slightly higher (for me i like the neighboor hoods to be about 10 yrs old) if you go into the newer places the responce is often real low. too watch out for the length of the driveways, an average driveway for me is around 15'x60'. one other thing that kinda gives me a leg up on the other guys doing this around here is i offer a set price on driveways instead of price per sq. ft, because most home owners don't know the sq. ft of their drive and most usually won't take time to figure it out or call. too the way my flyer works it takes out all the guess work for the home owner ( as far as : how much, when we will do it, and billing info), my flyer aslo cuts out alot of down time and gas expence because i don't have to drive out and meet the home owner, give 'em a price,and set up a date to do the work, then drive back out to do the work.

Mow2nd-2
02-21-2007, 03:02 PM
i usally average 3 driveways a day, with a 3500 psi pressure washer.

Mow2nd-2
02-21-2007, 03:16 PM
wow looks like you gotta nice set up, but for those who do PWing like me who only do it in the winter when grass slows up you don't really need a trailer mounted set up or the comm. contracts, when i first started i tried to get comm. contracts but it was just like lawn service's comm. contracts where you have to under cut so much to get work that you can't make the money that you should be making, so for me the easier to do driveways, get the work, and make the money i want and feel i deserve. but to each his own if you are happy with the money you make doing comm. work and can get the work have at it. You won't have to worry about me gettin in on your action :)

BOWHUNTER12
04-11-2007, 11:42 PM
Hey guys I have a lawn customer that wants me to power wash her house. She has vinal siding, not sure how many sq. feet but its just one level 2 bed room house not too big. It would probally take a 1 hour at the most. How much do I charge??????

robbo521
04-12-2007, 12:42 AM
depending on how bad,around here it would be about 55 to 75.

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
04-12-2007, 09:42 AM
Hey guys I have a lawn customer that wants me to power wash her house. She has vinal siding, not sure how many sq. feet but its just one level 2 bed room house not too big. It would probally take a 1 hour at the most. How much do I charge??????

Houses will take 3 hours the best you can do thatz doing the concrete as well.don't sell yourself short.

FCPWLLC
04-13-2007, 08:06 AM
Give me a call if you want to increase your speed on cleaning Vinyl siding. (Most houses I do in 75 minutes) Also, if you'd like to know how to do it with less than 100 psi. For driveways/sidewalks speed is determined by flow and not psi.

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
04-13-2007, 08:38 AM
Don't understand 100 psi,with chemicals helps but the houses i clean there is no way 100 psi will work.

FCPWLLC
04-13-2007, 08:56 AM
Don't understand 100 psi,with chemicals helps but the houses i clean there is no way 100 psi will work.


I sent you a PM.

ashs inc
04-15-2007, 01:01 PM
Michael,

a 100psi??? are you kidding??? I dont understand. Most of the houses i do require hot water and at least 2500 psi.

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
04-15-2007, 01:45 PM
Thatz what i said, michael is not a rookie when it comes to the biz of pw we spoke and we has given me some advice on cleaning.

FCPWLLC
04-15-2007, 03:58 PM
The right tips and higher flow machines. We generally shoot 2 story homes from the ground. First apply the proper detergent blend and let sit for 5-10 minutes. After that, it is a simple rinse down. Of course there is more to it than that but that is the jist of it.

FCPWLLC
04-15-2007, 04:06 PM
This an example pic... That stream is only 40 psi, but 5.6 gpm. The FLOW is what allows it to shoot that far and the low pressure allows the injector to pull detergent.

The Other pics are of other example of the right equipment and use of higher flow to clean faster and more thorough. The surface cleaner use both flow and pressure to clean a 28 inch path easily and 10 times faster than just a wand.

squirtgun
04-15-2007, 09:34 PM
I see Michael is trying to educate the masses on the safe ways to clean a property.I got your back buddy.

ATVracer
04-16-2007, 12:45 AM
I nominate you moderator of this forum. Nice website also!

mosmgras
04-16-2007, 06:04 AM
In the above pic (the one with the honda engine and pump) what is the other thing the engine is running?

FCPWLLC
04-16-2007, 06:48 AM
In the above pic (the one with the honda engine and pump) what is the other thing the engine is running?


2500 watt generator to power the Hot Box (In the picture below in trailer) giving me the addition of Hot Water.

Hey Scott (squirtgun), didn't take you long to find me over here. Scott can answer some Pressure washing questions with the best of them. He is the Don of the Pressure Washers Mafia.

I just pimp the benifits of being in that mafia. LOL See pics for member benifits. LOL

mosmgras
04-16-2007, 05:27 PM
VERY NICE....

Oh, the washing setup looks good also.

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
04-16-2007, 06:06 PM
What kind of unloader, a yu-2158 ss is what i have and a k7.

mverick
04-16-2007, 06:29 PM
I sent you a PM.

I'm interested too. I have 3 pw. 2 small just to get the chemicals on and one large 5000psi with 24hp.

What are you using on the roofs?

Thanks, Rick

FCPWLLC
04-16-2007, 07:07 PM
What kind of unloader, a yu-2158 ss is what i have and a k7.

I'm pretty sure it's a YU-2140 rated up to 21 gpm. Saw you today going down New Circle @ 3:30pm I was on my Bike going the other way.



Rick, Sodium Hypochlorite on the roofs. No pressure washers for roofs. Just garden hose. Delavan pumps to apply chem.