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josh_evans66
02-22-2007, 08:25 PM
In my defense I looked 10 pages back to see if this thread was anywhere...I plan on starting a landscaping/lawncare business in the next few years. Right now i'm just planning ahead and learning from other's mistakes. For example; start out with at least a 6x10 box trailer.lol
Anyway. I plan on hauling the usual one or two man lawncare operation equipment. Could I get by with a 1/2 ton? Or do I need to go ahead and invest into a 3/4 or even 1?
-Josh

Grn Mtn
02-22-2007, 08:37 PM
If your just mowing and don't get snow, go with a 1/2 ton, just make sure to have trailer brakes. You'll save money on gas and on the truck.

If you are going to be doing landscaping get a 3/4 at a min.

chuck bow
02-22-2007, 09:20 PM
i run 2 one tons power and pulling is there if i ever need it ! maybe over kill but so what it works for me

mow king
02-22-2007, 09:37 PM
I use a one ton dually diesel...but the lightest load I pull is about 9,000 pounds.

green horizons
02-22-2007, 09:53 PM
If you can afford a 3/4 ton, get one. Mowing ONLY can be done with a tiny trailer and a 1/2 ton, but you stated lawn and landscaping. It's the "landscaping" that will kill the 1/2 ton.

topsites
02-23-2007, 12:08 AM
I've been using 3/4 tons since day 1, the initial cost hurts bad, but the heavy duty transmission and brakes make up for it in time... Even then, so far I've only gotten 4 years out of a used truck, and that was taking it easy (it still runs, but I got another one because I don't think she'll make it another year).

The reason I started with 3/4 tons is because I have a friend who went through this learning experience, figuring it was cheaper to buy 1/2 tons and fix or replace them whole vs. the cost of a 3/4 ton... He got so good at fixing things, he could replace a clutch in 45 minutes with nothing but hand tools, if that gives you an idea as to how many he must've went through. Sometimes, he'd get 6 months out of a tranny / clutch, other times they wouldn't last 30 days before they crapped out again. These were old trucks, I do suspect newer ones might last a year, but they also cost a lot more.
It's almost funny, but he hasn't driven a 1/2 ton in many years (and I never tried).

Travel'n Trees
02-23-2007, 12:18 AM
I recomend a tax attorney about light duty trucks, they limit you and draw flags at tax time, because of how many people have half and 3/4 ton trucks for personal vehichles.

grass_cuttin_fool
02-23-2007, 09:26 AM
I use a 1/2 ton and mainly pull a 6x16 foot trailer. I also have a 10foot dump trailer that I use for mulch and leaf removal. 8-10 yards of mulch is alot more than the truck wants and is hard on the tranny.
mowing= 1/2 ton
landscaping = 3/4 ton

wayne

supercuts
02-23-2007, 09:43 AM
if all your doing is pulling a small 6x10 with a mower all you need is a ranger. if you put mulch/brush, tools in the truck, you will need a 1/2 ton. if you plan on growing and getting a bigger trailer, 2nd mower etc, you'd might want to get into 3/4 ton. if you are doing true landscaping, pavers, plantings, sod, etc, you might opt for a 1 ton, even a dually. it all truely depends on what your needs are. if you are plowing 1/2 tons do work but take more of a beatign on the drivetrain. they make heavy duty springs to hold the weight of the plow and you will need weight in the back. if your not plowing you might need a 4x4 which will save you fuel money.

i have an f250 gas, 350 diesel and 550 diesel. i preffer bigger because if you need it, you have it

GreenN'Clean
02-23-2007, 10:02 AM
I have f250's 3/4 ton trucks and they have all the power I need and then some. Its great for pulling ,hauling, plowing etc. I have a ez dumper insert with heavy duty air bad suspension

neversatisfiedj
02-23-2007, 10:17 AM
I have a 2500 diesel but plan on getting rid of that for F-650 w/ allison trannie this year :weightlifter:

LindblomRJ
02-23-2007, 10:59 AM
I have a 3/4 and a 1-2 ton. The 3/4 gets the most use.

The gas mileage argument is really not valid between 1/2 and 3/4 tons. The difference between the two is negligible and at times the 3/4 will get better mileage.

Eclipse
02-23-2007, 11:02 AM
IMO If you are going to be using the truck to pull a trailer and haul debris, mulch, and other materials I would not consider a 1/2 ton for a work truck.

chuck bow
02-23-2007, 02:10 PM
I wore a half ton out in a years time just not heavy duty enough Thats why i went for the 1 tons much much heavier duty and have been using the older 1 ton for better part of 5 years now and it still works great, its like the saying when you consider what size trailer you need , get bigger than you need cause you will grow into it

GreenN'Clean
02-23-2007, 03:43 PM
I have a 2500 diesel but plan on getting rid of that for F-650 w/ allison trannie this year :weightlifter:

Those F-650 are awesome I'd like to get one of them in the coming year

lawn guy1350
02-23-2007, 04:35 PM
i will never use anything less than a 3/4 ton. And i too love the 650's!

The mayor
02-23-2007, 04:49 PM
My 1990 chevy 1/2 ton has 187.000 miles. It pulls a 16 ft enclosed trailer with 2 ztrs in the summer and in the winter it is a plow truck. It never sees anything but work. This past year it only needed a new gas tank, gas lines, and u joints. It is starting to get tired. If you do maintenance and don't drive like a jag off a 1/2 ton is a decent truck. If you plan on hauling a skid steer and large items like that...something bigger will be needed.

Swampy
02-23-2007, 10:37 PM
We got rid of all our 3/4 and 1/2 ton trucks a few years back. They didn't seem to hold up for what we where using them for. Our smallest truck is a F350 pickup. If you end up getting a 1-Ton get a dually they will save you in tires but cost more in fuel.

thebobcatkid86
02-24-2007, 01:20 AM
Right now I tow my mini skid-steer, a Bobcat 453 (2500lbs) on a tilt deck flatbed (1700lbs) with a Dodge Dakota. It only has the V-6 and its a stick shift. but it has heavy duty everything else so its basically a half ton. It seems to do the job just fine. Eventually I plan to buy an F-250 with the unkillable 7.3 diesel and the 6-speed. I too like the 650s but they're too big. You cant tow anything with them without a CDL (at least in Ohio), to me thats too much hassle. Id rather have a F-250 diesel (same engine as the 650) with a 14k 16ft. tandem-axle center hitch dump trailer.

J&R Landscaping
02-24-2007, 03:28 AM
I have a 1988 F150 and a 1994 F250. So in short, 1 1/2 ton truck and 1 3/4 ton truck.

josh_evans66
02-24-2007, 05:27 PM
Well God just answered the question for me. There's no other explanation! Monday i'll be buying a 1992 D-350 Duallie, Cummins, 5-speed, 2wd, club cab, fully loaded, flatbed, trailer brakes, with 90,000 original miles for $3300 from a friend of mine. Thank you for all your input. It looks like I won't need another truck for a LONG time!lol
-Josh

rfed32
02-24-2007, 10:30 PM
dude i got a half ton and have no probelm pullin my 6x10....i have pulled a 7x14 with 2 zero's on it...i also have pulled a 5 ton dump full...a little bad on breakin due to no trailer breaks but the half ton is fine...i also plow with mine and its great....work with what u can aford dont go into debt

Snyderserv5060
02-25-2007, 12:19 AM
I used a 1/2 ton (1500 Ram) for about 2-3 years or so. While it did the job im sure I was killing it. Last fall I opted to make a bigger purchase on a new truck for the company. I now have a F350 Powerstroke and its a dually. All I have to say is ive never looked back. It has all the power I need and some and wont be a limiting factor as the 1/2 ton was. Plus its a lot more comfortable towing around with the added stability of the new truck.

Im sure that truck your looking at will work out great and be around for a while to come if cared for right. Sounds reasonable as well :) Dont take this wrongly but for my needs I cant go with out a 4x4 even one some of my regular jobs but you can assess your needs better then anyone else, just wanted to mention it.

josh_evans66
02-26-2007, 12:35 PM
Your totally right about the four wheel drive where your at. It doesn't snow enough here in Oklahoma for me to pass this deal up. The thing is though when you do need a four wheel drive you need it bad.

mosmgras
02-26-2007, 06:13 PM
I would say a 1/2 ton would be fine on anything up to... say... 5k lbs or so (total weight, trailer and load). After that, a 3/4 or 1 would be in order. There are a lot of guys doing just fine with a 10-14' trailer, 2 Z's and support equipment pulled with 1/2 tons.

qualitylawnmanagement
02-26-2007, 06:40 PM
I have always owned a 3/4 ton. It just something about them that I like lol. Now I did use a 06 F-150 with the 5.4 in it while I was searching for a new truck after my 97 F-250 got into a wreck. It was pretty nice very powerful Hauled my 18ft with 2 Dixie choppers on it no problem, almost took the lease on it but I wanted to plow snow and cover all aspects of my business.

OKSooner
02-26-2007, 07:14 PM
I recomend a tax attorney about light duty trucks, they limit you and draw flags at tax time, because of how many people have half and 3/4 ton trucks for personal vehichles.
Can you share any particulars about tax ramfications? I'm thinking about a new truck too and I face the same decision.

zero_turn_mowers
02-27-2007, 01:47 AM
All purpose you wont regret 3/4.

Tim

Travel'n Trees
02-27-2007, 04:54 AM
Three to four years ago I had a 1/2 ton my tax attorney told me to ditch it and get a one ton because so many have ton extended cabs are really family vehichles and more than work vehichles and it drew a red flags to the IRS and could help get a computer generated audit.