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zz4guy
03-07-2007, 10:08 AM
I'd like to get a 7000lb skid steer. Right now I have a Chevy 2500 that I'd like to haul it with so I don't need to get a new truck. Is this feasable at least in the short term? The truck GVWR is something like 8800 and the truck weighs about 4400.

Sure it's over the weight, but would it work or is this asking for trouble?

THEGOLDPRO
03-07-2007, 10:31 AM
what year truck and what engine??

zz4guy
03-07-2007, 10:49 AM
what year truck and what engine??

1992; 350 engine; has the 4L80E heavy duty transmission

ksss
03-07-2007, 10:53 AM
I am assuming it is the Light 2500. I would think you could get by with that. It certainly isn't going to be in the "hammer lane" on the freeway but you should be able to pull 10 K with that truck. It would probably be better if it was on a gooseneck trailer.

MarcSmith
03-07-2007, 11:57 AM
Sure it's over the weight, but would it work or is this asking for trouble?
its fine until DOT stops you and slaps a fine for every Lb over weigh you are....

Why do something that the truck was not designed for. remeber the weight included everythig. fuel, passengers, cargo, so more liekly than not you end being 3000lbs over weight...And if for some reason you have an accident....hope you have good lawyer since your insurance company will scream.....

Sydenstricker Landscaping
03-07-2007, 01:04 PM
its fine until DOT stops you and slaps a fine for every Lb over weigh you are....

Why do something that the truck was not designed for. remeber the weight included everythig. fuel, passengers, cargo, so more liekly than not you end being 3000lbs over weight...And if for some reason you have an accident....hope you have good lawyer since your insurance company will scream.....

Why do you say it will be 3,000 lbs overweight?? The trucks towing cap. is 10k I beleive for this year. My 94 GMC 2500 the GVWR was 8600 and the truck weighed 5,270 lbs with me, full tank of fuel and a Meyer ez mount plow frame in the front. So just to help everyone else out, do a little math first before whining about DOT and other crap. And yes, the truck can easily tow the bobcat. Just be sure to get a good trailer brake controller, and other proper safety stuff on the trailer and you will be fine. But if I go with this math suggested by you MarcSmith, the truck can only pull around 3000 lbs?? A Ford Ranger can do that.

MarcSmith
03-07-2007, 02:07 PM
My bad I did a quick search on KBB and came up with 7700 lbs tow cap. but I went back and checked again and it shows 10K I must have selected 1500 not 2500 on the truck type...

so if you towed 10K behind a 1500 you'd be around 3k over but since thats not the case....I'll chew on my foot a while now....

I was towing an empty tandem axle trailer (10K rated) in an 03 f250 4x4 with a reading service body and myer plow. Got stopped in a roadside safety inspect and I was 1500 over.....oops

thebobcatkid86
03-07-2007, 03:43 PM
I want to tell you guys a little story about what vehicles are really capable of. My great uncle was a trucker many years ago, amongst his many hats hes worn over the years. When I was about 3 years old he fell in love, packed up and moved to Houston Texas. When he moved he didnt want to make more than one trip. He borrowed a big center hitch box trailer from a friend and hooked it up to his, I believe Ford F350 dually. He packed up everything he owned, including all his equipment for his metal fabrication business, which he still does to this day. So anyway he packed everything up and drove to Houston. Being a trucker in the past he was very careful to always check the tires enroute and he noticed that they kept getting warm and he kept having to add air. This went on for some time and he finally decided to find out what this rig weighed. So he pulls into a feed store off the interstate, puts it up on the scales just to find out what it weighs. The total gross weight of that rig truck, trailer and load..... 42,000+lbs! He drove that rig 1360+ miles from Cleveland Ohio to Houston Texas, no blowouts, no overheating, no problems at all except that he never got past double nickles, even on the prarie. That is all I have to say about what trucks are really capable of. He told me that as far as he's concerned, as far as trucks go most things inbetween a F350 dually and a single axle semi are a waste of time and money. While I know they have thier purposes, sometimes when I think about it I can see where hes coming from. Im not saying that its smart or that its even safe but I just thought Id share that story.

MarcSmith
03-07-2007, 04:06 PM
every peice of equipment has a built in "safety limit" so to speak....How many of had taken peices of equipement and done things that we were not suposed to do. and Hey it worked out...no harm no foul...buut th more you think about it...what could have happened?

Heck I put 5 yards of palletized mulch in back of f150 with helper springs... I did it. it wasn't right, but...it was only couple miles...

The limits and recomendations are their for yoru safety and that of the people around you.....you think ford just pulled those weight numbers out of their ass?

What if oneof your uncles tires blew out and all his 42K lbs went across three lanes of traffic and injured a few people.... Not such a great story then is it...

I hate preaching safety but Ive seen enough stuff that were so easily preventable its mind boggling.....But thats another topic....

Chop Stuff Up
03-07-2007, 06:47 PM
I have a 92 2500 and the GVWR is 7200 on it. Might wanna double check? I haven't towed anything more than 5k so can't really help you with that.

Grass-Masters
03-07-2007, 07:01 PM
Since you guys are all on the topic on the 92 Chevy 2500. I have one, what is the largest enclosed trailer loaded with mowers do you think should be pulled in this truck.

stroker51
03-07-2007, 10:31 PM
The truck should handle a skid no problem, I, and my grandpa before me, have hauled full size skid steers many miles with 3/4 ton Ford pickups, and a few of his were really only heavy half ton trucks, just 8 lug wheels. That being said though, I had a special investigator from the KCC (Kansas Corporation Commission) come out to my shop last spring to look at my stuff and tell me what I needed. I had my 96 F250 PSD, (8800ish GVWR) and a 14ft 14K dump trailer sitting out front. All he said was of a concern was that, if loaded to capacity, I could weigh up to 22,800. Said nothing of any other weights, only GCWR, and that I needed a tag, in this case 24,000 tag, to cover my fully loaded weight. (KS truck tags go from 12M, on every truck, to 16, 20, 24, 26, then you get into needing a CDL, like everywhere) This guy is the one in my area that if there is a violation, will be the one nailing you to the wall, so I take his word pretty serious. Anyway, what I gathered at this meeting, and have always been told, so long as the truck will stop the trailer, good breaks, trailer breaks, and is capable of towing it, the main focus needs to be on the trailer, axles, breaks, tires, bearings, etc.

Sydenstricker Landscaping
03-08-2007, 02:45 PM
I have a 92 2500 and the GVWR is 7200 on it. Might wanna double check? I haven't towed anything more than 5k so can't really help you with that.

Does your 2500 have 6 lug or 8 lug wheels?? That has a lot to do with your GVWR. The 6 lug 2500 is more or less a 1500 with 2500 badging. One of GM's bright ideas I guess. But the 8 lug 2500's are 8600 GVWR and the new HD's are 9200. I have had 4 2500's 82,84,94, and 2000 all of which were/are 8 lug wheels and 8600 GVWR. And the 95 F250 I had also had a 8600 GVWR.

Chop Stuff Up
03-08-2007, 10:55 PM
Does your 2500 have 6 lug or 8 lug wheels?? That has a lot to do with your GVWR. The 6 lug 2500 is more or less a 1500 with 2500 badging. One of GM's bright ideas I guess. But the 8 lug 2500's are 8600 GVWR and the new HD's are 9200. I have had 4 2500's 82,84,94, and 2000 all of which were/are 8 lug wheels and 8600 GVWR. And the 95 F250 I had also had a 8600 GVWR.

yessir its a 6 lug

green acres lawns
03-10-2007, 03:44 PM
check out the 2008 f-450 Ford duelly. Towing capacity of 24,500 lbs.

MOWALLTHETIME
03-12-2007, 02:48 PM
I have a 2005 2500 hd 6.0 that I pull a kubota L4400 which weighs 5200lbs including the bucket and either a box scraper or power rake. The trailer weighs in between 2000-2500lbs 20' gooseneck with 5' dove. I also have varoius tools and other equipment on the trailer and I have no problem pulling it. I might also add that the trailer has brakes all 4 wheels and a break away kit and good quality tires. No matter what you are pulling there is a wrong way and a right way to tow. few things I would check before towing. Are the tires the right load range 3/4 & 1 tons need E or F range tires to handle the extra weight. Proper pressure in tires will help with driveability and stopping. make sure the truck is in good mechanical order brakes, fluids, services etc. It never fails when we see trucks on the side of the road with 4 trailer flats or a 1/2 ton truck that is dead due to trying pull an 8000-10000lb bobcat on a 16' utility trailer with no brakes that passed everything a few miles back. if you have time to do it once you have time to do it right.

Grass-Masters
03-12-2007, 03:06 PM
Does your 2500 have 6 lug or 8 lug wheels?? That has a lot to do with your GVWR. The 6 lug 2500 is more or less a 1500 with 2500 badging. One of GM's bright ideas I guess. But the 8 lug 2500's are 8600 GVWR and the new HD's are 9200. I have had 4 2500's 82,84,94, and 2000 all of which were/are 8 lug wheels and 8600 GVWR. And the 95 F250 I had also had a 8600 GVWR.

I have the 8 lug, do you think this truck should have any problem pulling a 14-16 foot enclosed trailer loaded with the norm 60" ZTR, 48" walk behind, and all the smaller hand tools.

zz4guy
03-13-2007, 04:15 PM
I have the 8 lug, do you think this truck should have any problem pulling a 14-16 foot enclosed trailer loaded with the norm 60" ZTR, 48" walk behind, and all the smaller hand tools.

I'm pulling a 14' with some slightly smaller equipment. No trailer brakes. 92 Chevy 2500. I can hardly tell it's back there. You will be fine.

zz4guy
03-13-2007, 04:16 PM
I have the 8 lug, do you think this truck should have any problem pulling a 14-16 foot enclosed trailer loaded with the norm 60" ZTR, 48" walk behind, and all the smaller hand tools.

I'm pulling a 14' enclosed with some slightly smaller equipment. No trailer brakes. 92 Chevy 2500. I can hardly tell it's back there. You will be fine.

Sydenstricker Landscaping
03-13-2007, 08:14 PM
I have the 8 lug, do you think this truck should have any problem pulling a 14-16 foot enclosed trailer loaded with the norm 60" ZTR, 48" walk behind, and all the smaller hand tools.

You shouldn't. I pulled a 20ft enclosed with a F250 SD V8 with no problem, with 2 walkers and a stander in it. But the Chevy/GMC has more towing balls,IMO, so you wont have and issue. Just be sure to have good trailer brakes and the proper controller for them and the truck is serviced and good to go!!