contract problem?

[GroundControlLawnCare]

I gave a proposal and attached contract to a friend of mine that was mowing his HOA because he couldn't do it any more and asked me if i would.Well i couldn't be there at meeting so he showed it to the president and he signed it an hour before he steped down for his term.So the next day i went to meet the new president and he sais that the signed contract is no good because they should of took two more bids and then agreed on it even though i have a signed contract by the old president wile he was steel in office. I would like to know who is right here? I would like to have the account. it's 450.00 a month for twelve months 135.00 a visit for 40 visits year. I don't won't to start trouble but its 450.00 a month i have a signed contract by the president at the time. So who's right here and what would you do ???

[ed2hess]

What does your contract say about cancellation? You could insist on mowing until they cancel the contract. They were aware that your friend was only representing you at meeting correct?

[supercuts]

if they contract doesnt say anything about termination, your up s#$ts creek. you need to ask yourself, if you did a hurrible job, wouldnt they be able to fire you in the middle of the season? just be glad this happened prior to the season starting so you can look eslwhere, also be glad your still in the running if they are simply looking for 2 more bids, kiss some butt and say you completely understand and will wait to hear from him and if he has any questions you will be glad to answer them. you might also take that time to sell yourself a bit more and tell him how good you are.

[GroundControlLawnCare]

What does your contract say about cancellation? You could insist on mowing until they cancel the contract. They were aware that your friend was only representing you at meeting correct?

My contracts are set up so that either party's can cancel in 30 days notice.I've notice that people around here are quik to sign when they see that not to mention i like it too.

[GroundControlLawnCare]

if they contract doesnt say anything about termination, your up s#$ts creek. you need to ask yourself, if you did a hurrible job, wouldnt they be able to fire you in the middle of the season? just be glad this happened prior to the season starting so you can look eslwhere, also be glad your still in the running if they are simply looking for 2 more bids, kiss some butt and say you completely understand and will wait to hear from him and if he has any questions you will be glad to answer them. you might also take that time to sell yourself a bit more and tell him how good you are.

I took my time doing this bid and did a real nice job on the package i perpared for him. Containing a cover letter , proposal , and a contract.the new president looks like he might be a real d*** head in the future. He claims the other lco before my friend just quit showing up but what he don't know is the when the sub was being built the developer was paying the lco and when it got turned over to the hoa they never payed him due to some miscomunication during the turn over so he quit. So the new president thanks it's the lco's fault and thats the reason he won'ts 3 bids and the will probly take the lowest bidder.that is what i was told by the first president.

[CkLandscapingOrlando]

Most HO are like that.You can bet he wants the lowest price he can get.Thats the real reason he wants 3 bids.Then at the end of the year he'll tell the next 3 guys how bad of a job the last guy did.This will happen year after year.

[Turf66]

HOA's typically want at least 3 bids on anything. I have some very loyal HOA's that i work with and any time there is a bid on any thing that is above and beyond; such as re-landscaping, they are required to get 3 bids. Don't get discouraged, you have a foot in the door just don't let it SLAM!! HOA's are a good source of revenue but can sometimes be a pain in the butt. The bigger they are the more people you have to deal with and they all have a different opinion of how you should be doing everything. I do know of a LCO that sued a HOA and won for breach of a contract and they got the last 3 months of there contract paid in full; however, they lost 2 more neighborhoods and several other residentials in the same neighborhood. Lucky me!!!!LOL Remember people talk and these people all go to the same church, grocery stores, Etc...Hold to your bid and see what happens.

[topsites]

I'd run from this one and fast, but not before giving a warm and sincere thank you to the new president, especially if he gave me the ticket out, that's pretty nice of him to give fair warning, I can appreciate a decent man like that.

Because if that's the HOA rules, he could've been a jerk and got his 3 estimates and hired someone else, didn't really have to say anything if your contract is invalid because it was in violation of the rules.

So if he'd a told me that crap, I'd a been like: REALLY ?!?!!
Him: yeah...
Me: Well thank you very much (offer to shake hands), you have a nice day!
(smile) (don't forget to wipe sweat from forehead and congratulate self for such a great exit strategy).

Because that could've been one sticky situation, going buddy-buddy into an association-based property.

[GroundControlLawnCare]

Most HO are like that.You can bet he wants the lowest price he can get.Thats the real reason he wants 3 bids.Then at the end of the year he'll tell the next 3 guys how bad of a job the last guy did.This will happen year after year.

THANKS FOR THE ADVICE. I NEED ALL THE PROFESIONAL HELP I CAN GET . DO THE ASK FOR PROF OF INSURIENCE?

[GroundControlLawnCare]

HOA's typically want at least 3 bids on anything. I have some very loyal HOA's that i work with and any time there is a bid on any thing that is above and beyond; such as re-landscaping, they are required to get 3 bids. Don't get discouraged, you have a foot in the door just don't let it SLAM!! HOA's are a good source of revenue but can sometimes be a pain in the butt. The bigger they are the more people you have to deal with and they all have a different opinion of how you should be doing everything. I do know of a LCO that sued a HOA and won for breach of a contract and they got the last 3 months of there contract paid in full; however, they lost 2 more neighborhoods and several other residentials in the same neighborhood. Lucky me!!!!LOL Remember people talk and these people all go to the same church, grocery stores, Etc...Hold to your bid and see what happens.
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE.

[GroundControlLawnCare]

I'd run from this one and fast, but not before giving a warm and sincere thank you to the new president, especially if he gave me the ticket out, that's pretty nice of him to give fair warning, I can appreciate a decent man like that.

Because if that's the HOA rules, he could've been a jerk and got his 3 estimates and hired someone else, didn't really have to say anything if your contract is invalid because it was in violation of the rules.

So if he'd a told me that crap, I'd a been like: REALLY ?!?!!
Him: yeah...
Me: Well thank you very much (offer to shake hands), you have a nice day!
(smile) (don't forget to wipe sweat from forehead and congratulate self for such a great exit strategy).

Because that could've been one sticky situation, going buddy-buddy into an association-based property.

I THINK A SEE WERE YOUR COMING FROM.BUT KEEP IN MIND I HAVE THE ORIGANAL CONTRACT SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT THAT WAS STILL IN HIS TERM WHAT EVER THE MEANS. NO BIG DEAL, NOT WORTH IT FOR ME ANYWAYS. THANKS FOR THE ADVICE.

[CkLandscapingOrlando]

Yes.They want it all spelled out to the letter.Insurance and what your offering.Tree trimming,mulch,palms,or what ever the case may be.Every place is diffrent.The extras will most likely be a diffrent contract but alot of them like it to be included in the proposal but it would be additional.But Truf66 is right.Alot of them are loyal.It's almost always one or the other.

[GroundControlLawnCare]

Yes.They want it all spelled out to the letter.Insurance and what your offering.Tree trimming,mulch,palms,or what ever the case may be.Every place is diffrent.The extras will most likely be a diffrent contract but alot of them like it to be included in the proposal but it would be additional.But Truf66 is right.Alot of them are loyal.It's almost always one or the other.

thanks for the info.

[HOOLIE]

I would call the old president, ask him in a polite way "What the hell is going on???" Maybe he can work it out. A lot of HOA board members get really hung up on their self-imposed by-laws.

The new officers can be tough to deal with, often on a power trip.

[CkLandscapingOrlando]

I think it would be smart to talk to him if you want the work.If he likes you as a person he may over look price or even let you know what your up against.Or he could just be an ass and get rid of you just because he did'nt hire you.

[GroundControlLawnCare]

I think it would be smart to talk to him if you want the work.If he likes you as a person he may over look price or even let you know what your up against.Or he could just be an ass and get rid of you just because he did'nt hire you.

how do you market your company? just wondering , thanks for the info.

[CkLandscapingOrlando]

All most all my work has come word of mouth.I have done alot of fliers.When it comes to commercial I got an apartment finder and went through it.I listed every company in it and how many places they run.You wont get into the big ones with out doing the small ones first unless you get lucky.But you will know what to watch.Then start calling and ask If their currently satisfied with their grounds maintanace.If not then you bid.Down here we work year round for the most part.Right now these guys have 8 hours to do 4 hours work so even the ******s got their properties looking good.2 more months and it will be show and tell.All the guys that lay off half their company have to hire any one willing to work for 8 bucks an hour and I know what kind of work I would do for 8 bucks.Once they let the place look like hell you can just walk in and talk.The contract they have dont mean any thing because the landscaper has'nt done their job.

[GroundControlLawnCare]

All most all my work has come word of mouth.I have done alot of fliers.When it comes to commercial I got an apartment finder and went through it.I listed every company in it and how many places they run.You wont get into the big ones with out doing the small ones first unless you get lucky.But you will know what to watch.Then start calling and ask If their currently satisfied with their grounds maintanace.If not then you bid.Down here we work year round for the most part.Right now these guys have 8 hours to do 4 hours work so even the ******s got their properties looking good.2 more months and it will be show and tell.All the guys that lay off half their company have to hire any one willing to work for 8 bucks an hour and I know what kind of work I would do for 8 bucks.Once they let the place look like hell you can just walk in and talk.The contract they have dont mean any thing because the landscaper has'nt done their job.

what is your min charge. im not looking screw anybody i know we are some what close but whats your min ? i'm just wondering new at this.

[CkLandscapingOrlando]

If your talking to mow it would be 25.I like to stay around 60 plus an hour