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capt777
03-18-2007, 09:55 AM
I am in the market for a new 72" diesle zt. I own 2 Horse farms in Maryland. One farm has about 30 acres to cut and the other about 25, thick grass. Like all the added features and value of the Kubota over the JD, test drove the kubota at the dealer very nice machine awsome seat, like the hydro deck controls and foot parking brake and seems like it is put together better than the JD,the thing that concerns me is that one piece tranny. Both 31 HP Kubota(1261cc) vs. Yanmar(1331cc). Will be demo-ing the JD this week on my farm. Also might Demo the Dixie Chopper 35hp Yanmar. Does any one out their have any experiance with these machines.:usflag:

LwnmwrMan22
03-18-2007, 10:33 AM
I am in the market for a new 72" diesle zt. I own 2 Horse farms in Maryland. One farm has about 30 acres to cut and the other about 25, thick grass. Like all the added features and value of the Kubota over the JD, test drove the kubota at the dealer very nice machine awsome seat, like the hydro deck controls and foot parking brake and seems like it is put together better than the JD,the thing that concerns me is that one piece tranny. Both 31 HP Kubota(1261cc) vs. Yanmar(1331cc). Will be demo-ing the JD this week on my farm. Also might Demo the Dixie Chopper 35hp Yanmar. Does any one out their have any experiance with these machines.:usflag:

I've run the Kubota ZD series for 4 years (since 2003).

Personally, I've never had any issues with the tranny, other than my first one, I could get on a 'steep' hill and it would sometimes not want to turn up the hill as I was going across.

I found out that there was an update, took it to the dealer, they put the update in, and Kubota warrantied the transmission for another 2 years, for 4 years total.

I'm MOST likely buying a new 331 / 72" this spring, in fact the dealer got it in yesterday. There's many things that are better with the new Kubota series than the previous ZD 21/25/28 series that, even though my older ZD has 1400 hours on it, that I'm going to move it and buy a new one.

The seat alone, IMO, is worth it, although I'm sure I could buy a seat and figure out a way to put it on my ZD's I currently own.

But the fact that now the height adjustment is 1/4" instead of the previous 1/2" adjustments.

Also, there's a 'trap door' in the foot pad to easily access the grease fittings for the drive shaft of the mower deck.

The fact that it now has dual fuel tanks.

The deck is deeper, so it SHOULD have better capacity for the grass.

lawns Etc
03-18-2007, 11:39 AM
I demoed both and liked the Kubota better had a smother transmission and my dealer had the best price that I could find on a ZD331 at I believe $11300 there is a $500 instant rebate from Kubota and Ill be getting one by summer I only got to drive them around not cutting grass cause there was Ice all over but they are gonna let me take 1 for a couple days in April

If you are in annapolis its only a couple hours to my dealer if you cant geta good $$ There name is Roorks Farm Supply (856)358-3100

scchamblee
03-18-2007, 11:50 AM
I have personaly not been on 997 but I do own a 797 and I LOVE it. All the updates descdribed on the Kubota are standard on my 797. It has the trap door, 1/4" adjustments and it has a thick padded seat.

As far as quality I dont think you can go wrong with JD IMHO. The 7 iron deck is probly one of the best on the market. My 797 is a Tank! It is 2 years old and has never been in the shop.

But you should also take into consideration which dealer will give you the best service. I would nat buy a Kubota because our local dealer is just not that great, takes forever to fix things.

All of this is JMHO.

poonero
03-18-2007, 12:05 PM
the changes that kubota are making are to equal the thing that jd already has. i wish jd would follow kubotas lead and offer a complete line of z-turn diesels. the 997 is a monster and only good for someone with a 30 acre farm.

LwnmwrMan22
03-18-2007, 02:45 PM
I demoed both and liked the Kubota better had a smother transmission and my dealer had the best price that I could find on a ZD331 at I believe $11300 there is a $500 instant rebate from Kubota and Ill be getting one by summer I only got to drive them around not cutting grass cause there was Ice all over but they are gonna let me take 1 for a couple days in April

If you are in annapolis its only a couple hours to my dealer if you cant geta good $$ There name is Roorks Farm Supply (856)358-3100

Two questions for you.

1) Is that price on a 72" deck?? Or 60" deck under that 331??

2) Is that price before or after the $500 rebate??

I'm asking, because that's lower than ANYTHING I've seen. My own dealer, who I buy a new mower from every other year is coming in at $12,5 for the 60" deck, AFTER tax, AFTER rebate. The 72" deck is $12,9 AFTER tax, AFTER rebate.

lawns Etc
03-18-2007, 03:41 PM
Thats 60" I believe its after rebate they had 2 in stock last week want one baad but having a hard time with the weight need to mow a few lawns to tell for sure it is very heavy

That price did not include 3.5% tax I know that for sure

Envy Lawn Service
03-18-2007, 08:17 PM
Ain't even no question... Kubota's new ZD.

6.5" deep deck.

Many deck baffling options.

Big Kubota diesel engines.

Revamped hydro system.

Lots of nice new features.

It also seems that Kubota has kept a clean record of standing behind what issues they did have.

Apples
03-18-2007, 08:31 PM
Hey LwnmwrMan22, What is the price on a 72 inch 331, before sales tax?

capt777
03-18-2007, 09:07 PM
I was quoted 12,700.00 on the Kubota 331 72" then 500 off with rebait making it 12,200.00 before tax. The 997 72" was 13,300.00 before tax.

DLCS
03-18-2007, 09:15 PM
Both machines are excellent. Which dealer will give you the best service after the sale is what I look for in a machine.

LwnmwrMan22
03-18-2007, 09:16 PM
I was quoted 12,700.00 on the Kubota 331 72" then 500 off with rebait making it 12,200.00 before tax. The 997 72" was 13,300.00 before tax.

Apples - It was right around the price for capt777.

$12.9 after rebate would be $13.4 before rebate.

6.5% sales tax taken off would be about $12.5k before sales tax.

I know I can shave a little more off of the price, probably get exactly to capt777's price.

I'm going to work it a little more though. I've got contracts with government properties, so I can get a little price break there as well.

These prices were pretty much "ballpark" deals, where I haven't sat down and told the dealer "I'll pay you this much", just "What's your price on this mower?"

Apples
03-19-2007, 07:07 PM
Called my local Kubota dealer today,$12,350 after the rebate, and before tax. Capt777, demo all of them, the Dixie Chopper will be able to move a lot of grass. Let us know which one you choose. Good Luck!

LwnmwrMan22
03-19-2007, 09:01 PM
Apples - It was right around the price for capt777.

$12.9 after rebate would be $13.4 before rebate.

6.5% sales tax taken off would be about $12.5k before sales tax.

I know I can shave a little more off of the price, probably get exactly to capt777's price.

I'm going to work it a little more though. I've got contracts with government properties, so I can get a little price break there as well.

These prices were pretty much "ballpark" deals, where I haven't sat down and told the dealer "I'll pay you this much", just "What's your price on this mower?"

My travels today took me past a different Kubota dealer, about 80 miles south of the one I usually deal with.

Anyways, they priced it out at $12,980, before rebate.

It looks like if you can get one at $12,500 after rebate, that's about what it'll be, closer you get to $12,000 after rebate you're doing better.

One other thing that I'm looking at, is that if you don't take the rebate, my dealer said there's 0% for 36 months still.

slclawn
03-19-2007, 09:19 PM
I had a zd28 with a 72 and put three tranys in it in two years and it needed a new one when i traded it of on my deere. I also have a three deere ztrs and one has 7500 hrs on it now with very little problems. The Kubota had 1300 on it when i kissed it good by.

DLCS
03-19-2007, 09:37 PM
I had a zd28 with a 72 and put three tranys in it in two years and it needed a new one when i traded it of on my deere. I also have a three deere ztrs and one has 7500 hrs on it now with very little problems. The Kubota had 1300 on it when i kissed it good by.



Wow 7500 hrs, what model of Deere?

Envy Lawn Service
03-19-2007, 09:41 PM
I think he meant 750 hours.

LwnmwrMan22
03-19-2007, 09:42 PM
I had a zd28 with a 72 and put three tranys in it in two years and it needed a new one when i traded it of on my deere. I also have a three deere ztrs and one has 7500 hrs on it now with very little problems. The Kubota had 1300 on it when i kissed it good by.

That's odd. I've got my 2004 which I have 1200 hours on it, and the dealer did the Kubota upgrade on the transmission.

My 2006 has just under 800 hours on it, and I"ve done nothing to it.

I can't imagine a ZTR with 7500 hours on it.

Are you sure you just didn't pay $7500 for it??

Sometimes you have to take what people say with a grain of salt too.

DLCS
03-19-2007, 09:46 PM
I think he meant 750 hours.



I assume it was a typo. But 750hrs is no feat at all. Mine have well over 1000hrs.

LwnmwrMan22
03-19-2007, 09:47 PM
I think he meant 750 hours.

Either that, or with a post count of 1............ you know the rest of the story.

slclawn
03-20-2007, 12:09 AM
no its 7,500hrs on a 655 and three mufflers two hid pumps i have put around $1,500 in parts in it since new in 2001 same motor i just gave it to my father for his lawn and a few others he will be doing and it will be there for me as a back up i know thats a lot of hours. Even the dealer thinks its odd to have a machine with a gas engine with that many hours it had to pick up a lot of slack for the kubota when i had that thing just what happned to me. I do know people who have good luck with them it was the one i had. Made me sour on them but there tractors are good i have a bx 2200 thats 3 years old and its a really good machine.:walking:

Envy Lawn Service
03-20-2007, 12:15 AM
no its 7,500hrs on a 655 and three mufflers two hid pumps i have put around $1,500 in parts in it since new in 2001 same motor i just gave it to my father for his lawn and a few others he will be doing and it will be there for me as a back up i know thats a lot of hours. Even the dealer thinks its odd to have a machine with a gas engine with that many hours it had to pick up a lot of slack for the kubota when i had that thing just what happned to me. I do know people who have good luck with them it was the one i had. Made me sour on them but there tractors are good i have a bx 2200 thats 3 years old and its a really good machine.:walking:

Sorry... maybe you are being truthful... but I find that hard to believe.

I don't think I could believe that many hours were put on the one motor, 2 sets of pumps, etc... even if I saw a picture and a picture of the hour meter.

That's like a world record.

LwnmwrMan22
03-20-2007, 12:24 AM
Sorry... maybe you are being truthful... but I find that hard to believe.

I don't think I could believe that many hours were put on the one motor, 2 sets of pumps, etc... even if I saw a picture and a picture of the hour meter.

That's like a world record.

A 2001, so that would put it at 5 years old, since hours probably haven't been put on it yet this year.

That's 1500 hours / year, or for 40 months worth of work (Poster says he's from Indiana, I'll give them an 8 month mowing season for 5 years) thats what, about 190 hours / month??

I guess it would be do-able. Although, if you go up to a 7 month season, your hours / month rise to 214. Now you're talking running it straight, every day for 7+ hours, 8.5 hours if you're taking Sunday off with no time for rain, or breakdown, no drivetime.

lawns Etc
03-20-2007, 08:51 AM
Exact price for the ZD31 is $11900 - $500 rebate Plus 3.5% sales tax add $500 for 72'' thats from my local dealer

LwnmwrMan22
03-20-2007, 09:11 AM
Exact price for the ZD31 is $11900 - $500 rebate Plus 3.5% sales tax add $500 for 72'' thats from my local dealer

So, your exact price is $11,900 WITH the rebate, for a 60"?? or $11,400 WITH the rebate??

And then + $500 for a 72" if I'm reading that correctly, so about $11,900 after rebate, before tax??

MSS Mow
03-20-2007, 03:12 PM
where are you guys getting the info on the $500 rebate?

Kubota's website shows NO rebate for the ZD300 series.

best price I've gotten so far is $13,250 for 331 with 72" deck, before taxes.

7 IRON
03-20-2007, 05:26 PM
If You Find A Tier275 John Deere Dealer,I Bet You Could Buy a997 w/60" Side Discharge Mower for $12,600 -$12,700.
A 72" Deck $12,900 To $13,000.00.

LwnmwrMan22
03-20-2007, 08:16 PM
where are you guys getting the info on the $500 rebate?

Kubota's website shows NO rebate for the ZD300 series.

best price I've gotten so far is $13,250 for 331 with 72" deck, before taxes.

I questioned my dealer on that too, that I didn't think that it was on the new 300 series since the website doesn't show it. However, he said yes, that there's a $500 rebate instead of the low financing.

Maybe he knows something that's coming out for April that isn't listed yet???

DLCS
03-20-2007, 08:43 PM
If You Find A Tier275 John Deere Dealer,I Bet You Could Buy a997 w/60" Side Discharge Mower for $12,600 -$12,700.
A 72" Deck $12,900 To $13,000.00.



My dealer was going to sell me 997 72" for 12,600 but that was last year.

MSS Mow
03-20-2007, 09:06 PM
I questioned my dealer on that too, that I didn't think that it was on the new 300 series since the website doesn't show it. However, he said yes, that there's a $500 rebate instead of the low financing.

Maybe he knows something that's coming out for April that isn't listed yet???

Thank you.

I'll have to question my dealer too I guess.

zd21man
03-21-2007, 11:07 AM
I traded a zd 28 for the 331.Its nice!I have used it one time this season.The hydraulics respond so much faster than the zd28.I think the transmission problem is fixed.The zd28 tranny and drive axles holds a little over 8 quarts,and the 331 holds 19 quarts.So far so good.I will keep you posted.The 500 dollar instant rebate was in kubota country magazine.

Envy Lawn Service
03-21-2007, 11:59 AM
I traded a zd 28 for the 331.Its nice!I have used it one time this season.The hydraulics respond so much faster than the zd28.I think the transmission problem is fixed.The zd28 tranny and drive axles holds a little over 8 quarts,and the 331 holds 19 quarts.So far so good.I will keep you posted.The 500 dollar instant rebate was in kubota country magazine.

Wow... 19 quarts?

19 quarts of what type/spec of oil/fluid?

What's the service interval for that?

sricks
03-21-2007, 12:38 PM
I bought a ZD 331 earlier this year. Traded in a ZD-28. I love the 331. It is a completely different animal than the earlier models. Rides great, lots of power, smooth hydraulics and has an outstanding cut.

zd21man
03-21-2007, 12:49 PM
Wow... 19 quarts?

19 quarts of what type/spec of oil/fluid?

What's the service interval for that?

Kubota UDT or SUPER UDT hydraulic oil.service interval 400 hours

MSS Mow
03-22-2007, 08:47 AM
I traded a zd 28 for the 331.Its nice!I have used it one time this season.The hydraulics respond so much faster than the zd28.I think the transmission problem is fixed.The zd28 tranny and drive axles holds a little over 8 quarts,and the 331 holds 19 quarts.So far so good.I will keep you posted.The 500 dollar instant rebate was in kubota country magazine.

Did you have to have a coupon for the rebate or just know about it? I can't seem to find anything on the kubota country magazine. Could you scan a copy of it perhaps?

Thanks

MSS Mow
03-22-2007, 09:46 AM
Did you have to have a coupon for the rebate or just know about it? I can't seem to find anything on the kubota country magazine. Could you scan a copy of it perhaps?

Thanks

Answering my own question...

Just got off the phone with my dealer and the $500 is NOT a rebate, it is simply $500 in savings off the top of the price. Even better, cause you don't have to wait for the rebate. My salesman didn't know about until he went digging when I asked him. So, it's always worth asking.

LwnmwrMan22
03-22-2007, 07:50 PM
Answering my own question...

Just got off the phone with my dealer and the $500 is NOT a rebate, it is simply $500 in savings off the top of the price. Even better, cause you don't have to wait for the rebate. My salesman didn't know about until he went digging when I asked him. So, it's always worth asking.

I too was in talking with my salesman today.... VERY close to pulling the trigger.

I had him digging so many papers out of his folders I think we went through about 3 trees.

Anyways, now he's at $12,745 for the 331 / 72" deck, then I get the $500 rebate, plus the 3.99% financing for 3 years.

The $500 rebate is about like what GM was doing a few years back with a loyalty type bonus. Only people that are registered to get the catalog / book from Kubota Country are able to get the "rebate".

Anyways, I'm thinking about running a Peco trailer vac behind it as well. However, my dealer isn't too up on them, so we're working out the price.

I've got a 2004 ZD 28, 60" deck, 1205 hours on it, and am trying to get the dealer to take it on trade.

He's showing me $5700, or a total difference on the mower at $6959 after tax.

The Peco trailer vac runs about $3500, and yes, I know there are cheaper ones, but I've been through those. So, anyways, I told him if he can get me to a difference of $10,000 that I'll do the deal with the mower and the bagger.

He said that shouldn't be any problem, so he's either got to drop his machines down about $300 each, or put another $500 or so into my machine.

Anyways, looks like I'll be riding one of this this summer..........

Apples
03-22-2007, 08:50 PM
Very nice LwnmwrMan22! Keep us posted. Good luck!

capt777
03-22-2007, 09:22 PM
I got my dealer at 12,700.00 then add the 500 rebate/discount that is 12,200.00. thats like 12,800.00 with tax and setup out the door. (I guess there is about a 200$ setup fee). I think compared to the other machine on the market this is a real good value. So, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this thing. We have been waiting for a week and a half for this thing to come in to the dealership. It came in today so I'm going to demo it tomorrow or Sat. If it doesn't let me down Ill tell them to leave it on the property. I fax in the credit report today to get that out of the way. Ill probably go with 24 mo. 2.99% Financing. Has any of you all herd of that setup charge ?

lawns Etc
03-22-2007, 09:37 PM
If you are in MD its about 1.5 hr to my dealer 60" for $11300 plus tax at 3.5% he has a 60 and a 72 that includes the $500 rebate $11695 out the door

capt777
03-22-2007, 09:47 PM
2007 model 331 ? Whos your dealer?

lawns Etc
03-22-2007, 10:04 PM
Yes 2007 331 demoed one 2 weeks ago loved it

Roorks Farm Supply
RT 77
Elmer NJ 08318
there # is in this post somewhere

They are 2 miles from me about 20 min from Del Mem Bridge

capt777
03-22-2007, 10:08 PM
Thanks I'll check them out

capt777
03-22-2007, 11:07 PM
is that price for the 72"?

Grass Man
03-22-2007, 11:29 PM
.... You may want to consider the GRASSHOPPER diesel as well. Nice machine and all EXCELLENT reports with longevity :).



I am in the market for a new 72" diesle zt. I own 2 Horse farms in Maryland. One farm has about 30 acres to cut and the other about 25, thick grass. Like all the added features and value of the Kubota over the JD, test drove the kubota at the dealer very nice machine awsome seat, like the hydro deck controls and foot parking brake and seems like it is put together better than the JD,the thing that concerns me is that one piece tranny. Both 31 HP Kubota(1261cc) vs. Yanmar(1331cc). Will be demo-ing the JD this week on my farm. Also might Demo the Dixie Chopper 35hp Yanmar. Does any one out their have any experiance with these machines.:usflag:

Apples
03-23-2007, 06:23 PM
I have never heard of $200. set up charge. It could have been built into the price of the other equipment I have purchased. I would have a hard time paying for it. My local dealer didn't mention anything about an extra cost for set up.

capt777
03-24-2007, 10:57 AM
The kubota dealer brought the 331 over on fri. I ran it for about 7 min before i told the man i would take it. I have this hill on my farm that is pretty darn steep w/ thick orchard grass, those thick plumes of grass are so thick that when you cut them its yellow inside because light doesn't't get in. probably about 10-12 in. long. So I took this thing and went wide open up the hill and looked back to see a smooth golf course like finish, the engine rpm never changed. After this I wondered if this thing had a limit. So, went out in the flat section were the grass was the same as the hill but also had alot dead grass and leaves mixed in ran it wide open sticks all the way forward. After about 100 ft was able to her the engine rpm drop a little, looked back to notice that their was alittle rough on the exit blade. But I retrospect I think the problem was that safety flap chute thing was limiting how much grass could leave the deck.
Its in my nature to push things to their limits. And I was very impressed with how much grass this thing could move. Its a beast. I was able to run it on hills side ways that are incredibly steep. Love the hydro deck up and down deck controls. Paid 12860.00 out the door 12200.00
plus 610 tax plus some 50 fee for something. I did not have much time to operate this thing. Rain came in and is raining today. All in all I am very happy with this thing and can wait start using it. I will keep you posted.

LwnmwrMan22
03-24-2007, 03:11 PM
The kubota dealer brought the 331 over on fri. I ran it for about 7 min before i told the man i would take it. I have this hill on my farm that is pretty darn steep w/ thick orchard grass, those thick plumes of grass are so thick that when you cut them its yellow inside because light doesn't't get in. probably about 10-12 in. long. So I took this thing and went wide open up the hill and looked back to see a smooth golf course like finish, the engine rpm never changed. After this I wondered if this thing had a limit. So, went out in the flat section were the grass was the same as the hill but also had alot dead grass and leaves mixed in ran it wide open sticks all the way forward. After about 100 ft was able to her the engine rpm drop a little, looked back to notice that their was alittle rough on the exit blade. But I retrospect I think the problem was that safety flap chute thing was limiting how much grass could leave the deck.
Its in my nature to push things to their limits. And I was very impressed with how much grass this thing could move. Its a beast. I was able to run it on hills side ways that are incredibly steep. Love the hydro deck up and down deck controls. Paid 12860.00 out the door 12200.00
plus 610 tax plus some 50 fee for something. I did not have much time to operate this thing. Rain came in and is raining today. All in all I am very happy with this thing and can wait start using it. I will keep you posted.

That's the 72" deck, right???

Apples
03-24-2007, 05:58 PM
Congrats on the new mower capt777! The mower sounds great! Post some some pics when you get a chance. Hey LwnmwrMan22, how are you making out with your deal?

LwnmwrMan22
03-24-2007, 08:28 PM
Congrats on the new mower capt777! The mower sounds great! Post some some pics when you get a chance. Hey LwnmwrMan22, how are you making out with your deal?

Well, today I took my Toro 455-d to an auction and sold it, $13,000.

Took my Kubota dealer's Ferris down that I had traded in on my '06 ZD-28 that they still had. Both sold, so at least he should be able to show me a little more money for my '04 ZD-28, since the Ferris is no longer on the books.

They got what they gave me for a trade, but lost a little, they had to put a little money into it. Clean it up, touch up the paint on the side where you run it against walls, that sort of thing. Had to rebuild one spindle.

So, anyway, I called my sales rep and told him, but he was working with someone at the time, so I just left a voice mail.

I stopped in to see him in person yesterday, but he'd been playing phone tag with the guy from Peco, the trailer vac that I'd like to try this time around.

So, I'll give him a call probably Tuesday to see if he's made contact, or gotten a solid price for the vac system.

Right now he's at $6959 and my '04 ZD28 60" with 1205 hours difference for just the 331/72". The bagger'll probably run about $4000, so we're looking at almost $11. I told him if he can get me to $10k, I'll do the deal. Last time we discussed, I think I posted this previously, he said he was pretty sure he could get me pretty close, even after sales tax.

We'll see........

I know I don't like seeing other guys buying the new ones up. 2 reasons. 1) I want to be the only one running one, so everyone wonders what I'm on. 2) If they don't sell any of them, then maybe they'd move them to the 0% for 36 months as well, instead of the 3.99% they're running right now......

capt777
03-24-2007, 10:14 PM
yes 72" deck

capt777
03-25-2007, 10:17 PM
Got to run the 331 today. Awesome machine, cuts super fast and smooth. thing just plows through thick horse pastures with ease. My only compliant is that its a bit bouncy but that could be because I cutting rough fields at a fast clip. I checked the rear tire air pressure and it was 25 psi and the manual said it should be 17 psi so i reduced it but have not tested since. I have attached some pics, hope they come through. can take more if any one needs more specific pics.

LwnmwrMan22
03-25-2007, 10:46 PM
One more thing I keep forgetting to test out.

I run a 30" garbage grabber with 3 gallon bucket between my feet.

I'm going to have to take it up to the dealer and make sure with the extra pedals now I've got room, and that they didn't stretch out the front so I can still reach the garbage.

BTW, looks good in your shed capt777!!!! :clapping:

Envy Lawn Service
03-25-2007, 10:50 PM
You gotta love that deck.... it's super deep.

The tire PSI is way too high at 25.
That will jar your kidneys and teeth out.

I run 8-13 PSI on gas Z's... depending on conditions.

Remeber to RE-CHECK the deck when you make the tire pressure adjustments.

MSS Mow
03-26-2007, 06:00 PM
Just got home from my Kubota dealer. I took my ZD21 60" in for its spring service and came home with a new ZD331, 72"!! I got way more than what I wanted in trade for my machine so I couldn't resist. $13,300 for the new one. (after $500 savings)

Wow, what a machine!! No comparison to the old ZD's. Now I just have to wait a month for the grass to green up. :-)

Envy Lawn Service
03-26-2007, 06:16 PM
Just got home from my Kubota dealer. I took my ZD21 60" in for its spring service and came home with a new ZD331, 72"!! I got way more than what I wanted in trade for my machine so I couldn't resist. $13,300 for the new one. (after $500 savings)

Wow, what a machine!! No comparison to the old ZD's. Now I just have to wait a month for the grass to green up. :-)

LOL.... :laugh:

Congrats...

Apples
03-26-2007, 07:39 PM
Congrats MSS Mow! That's quite the ztr line up. Good luck with it!

capt777
03-26-2007, 08:51 PM
congrats, Its one helluva machine.

MSS Mow
03-26-2007, 08:57 PM
Thanks guys!

I was expecting a very nice machine based on comments here, but I was even more impressed in person once I got a chance to actually drive one.

JTF40
03-26-2007, 09:59 PM
Thanks guys!

I was expecting a very nice machine based on comments here, but I was even more impressed in person once I got a chance to actually drive one.

What was you trade-in allowance on your ZD21 and how many hours did it have? :usflag:

MSS Mow
03-27-2007, 06:33 AM
What was you trade-in allowance on your ZD21 and how many hours did it have? :usflag:

2005 ZD21 60" Pro-deck 200 hours $8800.

LwnmwrMan22
03-27-2007, 02:30 PM
We can add another to the list.

ZD331 / 72" will be on my trailer next month.

I say next month, since the ground temps are still 40ish degrees here, it'll be mid April before we're even thinking about cleanups.

Anyways, $12,200 + tax, no trade.

I'm going to take my 2004 ZD28 / 60" with 1200 miles on it, plus a set of tires for my Kubota 4330 Grand L tractor that I've never used, and trade them even up for a new Can-Am / Bombardier 2-up ATV.

My dealer knows I'm good for the money, so they're going to let the mower sit on their lot for a month, so I'll push my payments back to summer time.

Apples
03-27-2007, 07:47 PM
Congrats LwnmwrMan22! Very good price! Good luck with it, and let us know how you like it. Pretty cool thread,guys all around the country getting prices on, and buying the same mower. Pretty popular mower. Good luck guys.

JTF40
03-27-2007, 08:11 PM
We can add another to the list.

ZD331 / 72" will be on my trailer next month.

I say next month, since the ground temps are still 40ish degrees here, it'll be mid April before we're even thinking about cleanups.

Anyways, $12,200 + tax, no trade.

I'm going to take my 2004 ZD28 / 60" with 1200 miles on it, plus a set of tires for my Kubota 4330 Grand L tractor that I've never used, and trade them even up for a new Can-Am / Bombardier 2-up ATV.

My dealer knows I'm good for the money, so they're going to let the mower sit on their lot for a month, so I'll push my payments back to summer time.


1200 MILES !!!!!!! :cool2: :cool2:

LwnmwrMan22
03-27-2007, 08:14 PM
1200 MILES !!!!!!! :cool2: :cool2:

Yeah, exactly.... after sitting on that mower for an 18 hour day at the school I mow, sure seems like it.... :laugh:

I suppose it SHOULD read hours, huh???;)

LwnmwrMan22
03-27-2007, 08:17 PM
Also, value for the ZD28, 60" pro-deck was $5700. 1200 hours, showing 1200 hours worth of wear.

LwnmwrMan22
03-30-2007, 10:17 AM
I was at the dealer again yesterday, doing business, as usual.

Anyways, I was sitting on the ZD331, noticed another thing that they changed, that no one's mentioned yet.

The PTO lever, yes lever, not switch that will go out once / year, but the lever, with no PTO clutch to go out at the tune of $400, the lever is changed now too.

The old style lever, you just pushed forward, and if you were mowing along stiff low tree branches, they would sometimes catch and turn the mower deck off.

The new lever now still gets pushef forward, but then it moves slightly to the right and hooks. No more accidental turning off the deck and not being able to restart it because you've got a branch or something else holding it back.

Then it's got the pressure on it to return it to the off position once you 'unhook' it from its holding spot.