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Puttinggreens
03-19-2007, 03:47 PM
Does anyone have any experience with the Rain Master Eagle series controllers?

They use an Internet based connection to change the global percent run times based on the local Et.

I have plenty of experience running irrigation systems. My thought is that high water volume users in my area could benefit from this through water savings. If the benefit is financial, it becomes a no brainer.

I did a search and found nothing.

Mike Leary
03-19-2007, 04:12 PM
Rainmaster makes a quality product, we have 9 Evolution DX in service.
I have looked at the Eagle, looks like a neat product. We decided against
it because we're so happy with the DX. Depending on your budget, I'd go with
a DX-2 & use a Davis weather station. Rain Master E-Mail: <bills@rainmaster.
com> tell him I said hello.

Puttinggreens
03-19-2007, 04:39 PM
Mike, thanks for the reply.

I'm leaning, only leaning at this point, towards the Eagle for several reasons.

I am considering using this controller at several soccer field complexes with less than 20 zones per complex. I think I need to justify the cost of replacing an existing controller with a new controller through water savings. The more expensive the controller the longer the pay back period.

I am also thinking of using this controller at several high end residential homes whose irrigation systems I manage. Not having to physically show up at each site all the time to adjust runtimes would allow me to manage more sites.

I am open to all suggestions good and bad.

Mike Leary
03-19-2007, 04:47 PM
I'm not sure about the Eagle & multiple site operation. Bill Smille should
be of help about that. We CAN operate multiple zones with the Evolution DX.
E.T. is not much help here in the northwest because of the millions of
micro climates. I'm a huge fan of central system, but remember, there is no
better P.R. than having someone visit the site & check operation! Mike

Mike Leary
03-21-2007, 09:08 PM
Don't drop your interest in Rain Master...research your application.
What we did over the years w/ controllers was standardize: when ever we
took over a new system, we first replaced the controller with our choice.
Our choices in terms of running great, easy to operate & troubleshoot plus great factory support are not many: Irritrol "Total Contol" & Rain Master.
We still have many Hardie "Touch Commands" in service..GREAT CLOCK.

ServinSolutions
08-01-2013, 04:02 PM
I am a Rainmaster DX power user like you. I have 59 DX controllers at last count, 20 Eagle I's
(eagle plus is too buggy for me)..we had half dozen of them and after 2 years I was able to get rid od all of them and revert back to the Eagle I's with the upgraded communication card. The plus model had ongoing issues the entire time they were installed (what a headache). I control 241 controllers total for the City...most are stand alone still.

ServinSolutions
08-01-2013, 04:04 PM
I think I have met you or heard your name before in the industry...where are you located (work)?

ServinSolutions
08-01-2013, 04:15 PM
Have you ever tried to remote desktop to the pc running OASIS to control your clock from the field? It works, I do it frequently from my smartphone (screen is tiny) a tablet is the way to go with a cell card.

Use Teamviewer to remote to desktop for free.

I can stand in front of the clock and blue panel to it from Oasis to test communication....change a part and retest again.

Mike Leary
08-01-2013, 05:55 PM
Have you ever tried to remote desktop to the pc running OASIS to control your clock from the field? It works, I do it frequently from my smartphone (screen is tiny) a tablet is the way to go with a cell card.

Use Teamviewer to remote to desktop for free.

I can stand in front of the clock and blue panel to it from Oasis to test communication....change a part and retest again.

Very smart! Over the years, with our nine DX-2 clocks, I'd wished I'd pushed harder for Central, but the budget did not permit it at that time. Now, I'm close to spending that money on service calls. :cry: Oasis is a very cool system, as is Rain Master. :clapping:

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
08-01-2013, 06:52 PM
Mike, thanks for the reply.

I'm leaning, only leaning at this point, towards the Eagle for several reasons.

I am considering using this controller at several soccer field complexes with less than 20 zones per complex. I think I need to justify the cost of replacing an existing controller with a new controller through water savings. The more expensive the controller the longer the pay back period.

I am also thinking of using this controller at several high end residential homes whose irrigation systems I manage. Not having to physically show up at each site all the time to adjust runtimes would allow me to manage more sites.

I am open to all suggestions good and bad.

Look at the ET Water 205 Series controllers and the SmartWorks panels. The nice thing about the SmartWorks panels is that they will literally bolt into an existing controller and be up and running in about 10 minutes. All you have to do at that point is audit the system and enter everything and you're up and running. ET Water is web based so you can access it from anywhere that you have an internet connection and a browser.

For sites with 22 stations and less I'd seriously consider the Rain Bird ESP-SMTe. It will go up to 22 stations now and you can't beat the price for local weather based control.

Mike Leary
08-01-2013, 09:36 PM
Look at the ET Water 205 Series controllers and the SmartWorks panels. The nice thing about the SmartWorks panels is that they will literally bolt into an existing controller and be up and running in about 10 minutes. All you have to do at that point is audit the system and enter everything and you're up and running. ET Water is web based so you can access it from anywhere that you have an internet connection and a browser.

For sites with 22 stations and less I'd seriously consider the Rain Bird ESP-SMTe. It will go up to 22 stations now and you can't beat the price for local weather based control.

Words of wisdom from someone who obviously has never operated a Rain Master and seen the options available.Beats your Maxi-Com to hell. :dizzy:

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
08-01-2013, 09:41 PM
Words of wisdom from someone who obviously has never operated a Rain Master and seen the options available.Beats your Maxi-Com to hell. :dizzy:

Hey... my post wasn't meant to be hostile. The guy asked for opinions and I gave him mine. Sorry you had to go and get all butt hurt over it! I didn't say anything about Rain Master, good or bad! And where in there did I mention anything about Maxi-Com? Maxi-Com is old technology that will very likely be replaced real soon. ET Water and Hydropoint are coming up quick as real contenders in the market.

Mike Leary
08-01-2013, 10:03 PM
Sorry you had to go and get all butt hurt over it!

Did you forget to take your sense of humor pill today? :confused:

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
08-01-2013, 10:04 PM
Did you forget to take your sense of humor pill today? :confused:

Apparently not..... but given that you're a Rain Master REP I can see why you get all butt hurt when somebody doesn't suggest RM as the solution to everything :)

Mike Leary
08-01-2013, 10:21 PM
given that you're a Rain Master REP

I wish, but no tee shirts, hats and trips to Hawaii like the rest of you. :laugh:

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
08-01-2013, 10:25 PM
I wish, but no tee shirts, hats and trips to Hawaii like the rest of you. :laugh:

Sh!t.... those days are loooooong gone. Anymore I'd just be happy to get a free screwdriver out of a rep..... come to think of it I haven't seen a rep from ANY company in about 3 years now.

Mike Leary
08-01-2013, 10:35 PM
Sh!t.... those days are loooooong gone. Anymore I'd just be happy to get a free screwdriver out of a rep..... come to think of it I haven't seen a rep from ANY company in about 3 years now.

Agree, what the hell happened in marketing, did the bean counters move in? When I first started, like you, reps and branches took good care of us; they wanted our business, and most of them got it, not because of the hats or the burgers, but genuine interest and knowledge of the product. That's sad for the pups that it's over. :cry:

1idejim
08-01-2013, 11:16 PM
What'cha going to replace the maxi-com with?

Mike Leary
08-01-2013, 11:27 PM
What'cha going to replace the maxi-com with?

rainmaster.com :weightlifter:

stebs
08-02-2013, 12:01 AM
What'cha going to replace the maxi-com with?

Toro Network VP! :laugh:

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
08-02-2013, 12:08 AM
What'cha going to replace the maxi-com with?

Nothing... it works fine. What I meant was that I can't see RB selling it for much longer. I suspect that they are working on the next generation of central control and with their recent purchase of Climate Minder I suspect that we will see some of that technology in their next central control system.

1idejim
08-02-2013, 01:39 AM
Nothing... it works fine. What I meant was that I can't see RB selling it for much longer. I suspect that they are working on the next generation of central control and with their recent purchase of Climate Minder I suspect that we will see some of that technology in their next central control system.

Took your post out of context. It's easy to do.

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
08-02-2013, 10:27 AM
Took your post out of context. It's easy to do.

No worries..... I can see how you could have :)

1idejim
08-02-2013, 11:53 AM
rainmaster.com :weightlifter:

email address', quick links, name dropping, hmmm. And you are a paid sponsor i assume? If not, PAYUP REP!

I kill me :laugh:

Wet_Boots
08-02-2013, 01:18 PM
a Rep ?!! ` "Get a rope."

hTX6ulE_Du8

Rotor_Tool
08-29-2013, 02:07 PM
Sh!t.... those days are loooooong gone. Anymore I'd just be happy to get a free screwdriver out of a rep..... come to think of it I haven't seen a rep from ANY company in about 3 years now.

I am sure with our connections to Uncle Tony, you can acquire all of the RB swag you ever wanted!

Rotor_Tool
08-29-2013, 02:10 PM
Does anyone have any experience with the Rain Master Eagle series controllers?

They use an Internet based connection to change the global percent run times based on the local Et.

I have plenty of experience running irrigation systems. My thought is that high water volume users in my area could benefit from this through water savings. If the benefit is financial, it becomes a no brainer.

I did a search and found nothing.

The Eagle or Eagle(I) is a great choice. You are correct, the upfront cost is a little salty, but the savings in time adjusting controllers through ICentral is priceless - not to mention the water savings if you use zipET. I have over 300 of these controllers throughout the Phoenix metro area all using ICentral - these controllers work. Feel free to PM me for more info.

SoCalLandscapeMgmt
08-29-2013, 03:30 PM
I am sure with our connections to Uncle Tony, you can acquire all of the RB swag you ever wanted!

Hell.... I'm no more connected to anybody than the next guy.

Swank1975
09-11-2013, 12:53 AM
We have about 30 rainmaster eagle i controllers in our district and love them. Often we cannot rely on the site facility managers to catch everything. The "all off" feature helps as well as master control valve use with unauthorized flows, high flow, low flow alarms etc. The E.T. settings work well for us also. We have seen massive water savings. We still have many to go but it takes time.

Mike Leary
09-11-2013, 02:42 PM
Does the RM Eagle have "auto-limits" to set parameters for amperage, as does the DX-2 Evolution?

Swank1975
09-11-2013, 06:14 PM
Mike,

I'm not sure I will ask my guy who maintains these.

Rotor_Tool
09-17-2013, 07:26 PM
Does the RM Eagle have "auto-limits" to set parameters for amperage, as does the DX-2 Evolution?

That is unique to the DX2.

Mike Leary
09-18-2013, 01:13 PM
That is unique to the DX2.

It may well could be, it sure has been handy over the years with nine DX clocks in service as they gave us indications of solenoid wear (high/low) before failure.