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Victor
04-03-2007, 11:03 AM
I just picked up a new customer, who had several areas in his lawn die last Summer he claimed. This grass grew in those dead spots he said. This is in Columbus, OH (zone 5). Any help identifying this grass would be greatly appreciated.

ant
04-03-2007, 06:14 PM
i will give it a shot

rough blue grass
poa trivealis (spelling)

toroking
04-03-2007, 06:16 PM
i will give it a shot

rough blue grass
poa trivealis (spelling)

are you crazy its bamboo

ant
04-03-2007, 06:19 PM
the tip is a canoe

lawnguyland
04-03-2007, 06:19 PM
doesn't look like grass to me, could be bamboo as mentioned

DUSTYCEDAR
04-03-2007, 08:19 PM
IS there bamboo any where in the area?

RigglePLC
04-03-2007, 09:32 PM
My guess. His rye died due to heat. KBG creeped back in by means of rhizomes.

Victor
04-03-2007, 11:01 PM
Hi there Ant... It's definitely not Rough Bluegrass. That much I do know. I've dealt with it on other lawns.

I really don't think there's any Bamboo in the area guys. The closest Bamboo trees to this lawn that I've ever seen are miles away. Bamboo doesn't seem to be very common around here. Having said that, maybe it is Bamboo. Maybe someone in the area has some Bamboo in their backyard, I really don't know. I sure hope it isn't though.

Victor
04-03-2007, 11:02 PM
My guess. His rye died due to heat. KBG creeped back in by means of rhizomes.

I've never seen KBG look like that Riggles. This stuff really has me stumped. :confused:

RigglePLC
04-04-2007, 08:54 AM
Victor,
I think I see a leaf spot infection on the lower left.
Could we see some roots? Bamboo usually has creeping rhizomes. And what is the scale? Is this grass over 6 feet tall or under? Any sign of seed heads? Ligule? Jointed stems? Evidence of panda bear feeding?

Victor
04-04-2007, 09:48 AM
Victor,
I think I see a leaf spot infection on the lower left.
Could we see some roots? Bamboo usually has creeping rhizomes. And what is the scale? Is this grass over 6 feet tall or under? Any sign of seed heads? Ligule? Jointed stems? Evidence of panda bear feeding?

The samples you see on the notebook paper were torn off at ground level, so the specimens are only 2, to 3 inches tall. There were no seed-heads. I'll see if I can't get some root samples. By the way, I did have to fight off a highly aggressive male Panda to get those samples for you. :)

Dollar Spot
04-04-2007, 11:56 AM
Go to http://www.agry.purdue.edu/turf/index.html and use their turf ID tool. I was very impressed with it......lots or good photos. Hope it helps. I think it looks like KBG.

tremor
04-06-2007, 12:38 AM
Might be Poa arachnifera or Texas Bluegrass. Can you get a better picture of the ligule?

RigglePLC
04-06-2007, 07:47 AM
Vic,
Watch out for the panda bear.
The only way to be sure it is not bamboo is to check the rhizomes. Don't wear black and white and don't bend over. It spring, you know.

Victor
04-06-2007, 08:55 AM
Vic,
Watch out for the panda bear.
The only way to be sure it is not bamboo is to check the rhizomes. Don't wear black and white and don't bend over. It spring, you know.

ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll definitely be careful when I get that sample for you guys. Thanks. :laugh:

Victor
04-06-2007, 04:14 PM
I tried to get some good close-up pics of the auricles and ligules, but I'm having some kind of trouble getting my camera to focus in on such a tight pic. I'll try and get some ligule and auricle pics on here as soon as possible.

ant
04-06-2007, 04:42 PM
its in the bluegrass family..

Victor
04-06-2007, 05:25 PM
its in the bluegrass family..

It must be Texas Bluegrass then. Steve made mention that he thought it might be. The customer who's lawn this came from, just signed up for my program. He did say that he had overseeded his lawn with a new blend of Scotts brand grass seed. He said that this grass was supposed to be very drought resistant. If it is Texas Bluegrass, that would make sense then.

The Cutting Edge
04-06-2007, 05:33 PM
Bedstraw, also called catchweed. Definately it is native to Ohio lived here all my life...

Victor
04-06-2007, 05:49 PM
Bedstraw, also called catchweed. Definately it is native to Ohio lived here all my life...

Thanks for the help Cutting Edge, but it's definitely not bedstraw. This stuff is notably different in appearance than Bedstraw.

The Cutting Edge
04-06-2007, 05:52 PM
Bedstraw, also called catchweed. Definately a native weed in Ohio I have lived here all my life..

The Cutting Edge
04-06-2007, 05:55 PM
My answer was meant for another forum... Sorry about that that is definatly not bed straw.

Victor
04-06-2007, 05:58 PM
No problem.

sclawndr
04-06-2007, 08:35 PM
That's an easy one - annual blue grass. Boat shaed leaves give it away.

Dollar Spot
04-07-2007, 06:08 PM
Go to the Purdue site I mentioned earlier and you'll be able to ID it. It's not not poa annua (annual bluegrass) but it's a bluegrass species.

Victor
04-07-2007, 08:17 PM
Steve (Tremors) nailed it already. He said it was Texas Bluegrass (I believe Texas Bluegrass is in Scotts "Thermal Blue"). Thanks for the help though.