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The Cutting Edge
04-11-2007, 01:45 PM
I need help on giving an estimate on this property. I have never really done HIGH END properties like this before. The owners wants me to mow, trim, blow, and minor debris pick-up every week so I got a signed contract for that per month. Now the owners wants me to remove existing mulch, then re-mulch, major weed control and bed edging need to be done. All hedges need to be pruned or trimmed. I have posted pictures of the property to give you guys some kind of reference, note that there is a severe grade in the back yard that will be very difficult to muscle up about 8 cubic yards of mulch being removed from the beds in the rear of the house that will have to be done buy wheel barrel as well as going down the grade to put 8 yards back in it. I figured that in all there is about 19 cubic yards total with all the mulching. So there will be about 19 cubic yards of mulch removal as well maybe a little more with all the weeds and debris. There is already about 160,000 dollars done in landscaping already and the owner doesn't't care how much the cost is and said not to cut no corners. There is also about 60 shrubs ranging from 2-5 ft in diameter that need to be hedge trimmed or pruned. I would appreciate your guys time in checking out the pictures and giving me any help on what you total estimate would be. At the bottom is all the links to the pictures taken of the property, theres about twenty. Thanks in advance The Cutting Edge Landscaping and Lawn care.

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PatriotLandscape
04-11-2007, 02:10 PM
start with a soil test for $85 to see why the lawn is patchy.

Why are you removing the mulch? you should top dress what is existing you will use less mulch and save them money.

I have never removed mulch from a bed.

What do you charge a man hour? How many employees do you have? would you have help when doing this project?

Did you take every picture with your thumb on the lense?

The Cutting Edge
04-11-2007, 03:22 PM
I am removing the mulch for one because the owner wants it removed and for two the mulch is probally a good 8 inches deep and is over flowing onto the walkways and driveway. I charge 45 per man hour, I will definately have a worker with me for the removal and install. As far as the blur in the to left corner I had to jam a piece of paper in the shutter to keep it open, I dropped the camera the day before. This will be a large job I know but this is exactly what my company needs at this time with it being so wet and cold here in Ohio. The owner also wants this hauled in by me with my 8 foot bed and my 6 by 12 trailer so there will also be numerous trips to the mulch yard.. I figured on about 100.00 a yard for install, weed control, and edging which would be about 1900.00 for around 20 cubic yards and about 70.00 a cubic yard for removal of the old mulch so thats about 1700.00 for removal and dumping. Let me know what you guys think...

garrettlawn
04-11-2007, 06:00 PM
I would charge more for removal than install. Seems to me it would be harder. And does that 19 yards of mulch compensate for the 8inches of mulch you are going to be taking out? Sounds to me like you will be taking out a lot more than 19 yards if 19 yards is for a 2-3 inch remulch. Seems like you will be taking out well of 40 yards at 8 inches deep. I would probably double what I lay mulch for to remove it... Plus where you are going to dump it will probably cost $$ unless you have some land or something. Looks to me with trimming and everything a 5k+ job for removal trimming and remulch.

Rizzo
04-11-2007, 08:23 PM
Thats $160k in landscaping? Maybe I'm just not putting the photos together right in my head... So at most you will be able to haul 6 yards per trip. Why is he insisting on you using your truck and trailer? Sounds like he may be a pita customer...

The Cutting Edge
04-12-2007, 01:23 PM
Definately not a PITA account the wife just gave me a 100.00 tip cause the lawn looked so good, so thats out of the question. I figured in a quote of 6300.00 with all mulching, edging, weed control, and to prune the shrubs. Hopefully I get this one if I do I am going to go and purchase a new Exmark Lazer Z.

outcold00
04-12-2007, 02:29 PM
whats a pita customer?

Bustus
04-12-2007, 02:31 PM
whats a pita customer?
Pain in the A$$

outcold00
04-12-2007, 02:51 PM
Pain in the A$$ ooohhh ok thanks

Rizzo
04-12-2007, 04:55 PM
Nice tip and glad they are good customers. Good luck with the install!

justanotherlawnguy
04-12-2007, 10:48 PM
So basically its remove approx 20 yards old mulch, weed, remulch and about 60 hedges?

$6300 seems kind of high, but if you get it have fun and enjoy that exmark your gonna buy....

Is that groundcover in some of the pics or is it weeds? kind of hard to tell. is that coming out as well?

The Cutting Edge
04-12-2007, 10:59 PM
That is ivy and it is staying but there is alot of weeds and bed edging that needs to be done. With the 6300.00 I will be adding about 6 hydrangeas, 12 planters of petunia's, and also some seeding in a few spots that are about 10 by 10. Also I will of course have to pay a dump fee so I think I am about right on the money, what do you think?

garrettlawn
04-12-2007, 11:18 PM
so how much of the mulch are you removing? 8 inches or 2 inches then remulching it. If he wants it all out.... you are to low.

The Cutting Edge
04-12-2007, 11:22 PM
I am going to take out about 4 inches so I guess it will be a little over twenty cubic yards. How much do you pay for dump fees and what size load?

Midwest Lawn Services
04-12-2007, 11:35 PM
I am going to take out about 4 inches so I guess it will be a little over twenty cubic yards. How much do you pay for dump fees and what size load?

I'm not into landscaping, but would recommend you find out your costs before bidding a job of this size next time.:) At any rate, sounds like they are going to be good clients for you! :cool2: Good luck!

Bueller
04-12-2007, 11:35 PM
Edge sounds like you have you work cut out for you with the mulch and hill. I have seen people over mulch before,but 8". It suprising that it did'nt create havoc with the shrubs. In the pics it looked like it was breaking down ok. It sounds as if they want you to haul it away so that there is no equipment driving on their lawn. Hopefully the landfill won't hammer you if you don't have a better place to take it. The trimming should go quickly. Sounds like a winner. If you do get this gig as a regular, a couple times a year try giving the mulch beds a good turn over. It will fluff up the mulch so air can get threw and to retain the water rather then run off. It should also break down. Patriot try UCONN for your next soil sample. Very professional and only $10. Good luck, hope this helped

garrettlawn
04-12-2007, 11:51 PM
I dump free but honestly I would quote this job like this...

30 yards mulch removal (includes dump fee etc...) $3750.00
trimming shrubs... 70 shrubs = $280.00
remulch 20 yards (includes delivery) = $2200.00
roundup / treflen = $100.00
Total = $6330.00
You and a helper I would give a three day period to complete this job depending on how far dump site/mulch site is.
I guess your estimate was about what mine would be so we are pretty close. Go get umm..

garrettlawn
04-12-2007, 11:52 PM
Major weedin/edging would all be extra..

PatriotLandscape
04-15-2007, 09:53 AM
Patriot try UCONN for your next soil sample. Very professional and only $10. Good luck, hope this helped

I use UMass here, it is the same price but I charge my customers $85 to take the sample, mail it, then tell them what it all means.