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BotetourtBoy3
04-19-2007, 11:02 PM
What is the differeance in stright and curved shaft weedeaters?

Rizzo
04-20-2007, 12:59 AM
Straight shaft will usually last longer as far as the shaft goes because there is no bend and the flex drive shaft does not rub or wear as much (you can also get solid drive shaft on the straight ones). Also, some say more power to the head on the straight shaft. Some say the bent ones are easier to use and reach over obstacles with. The straight one lets you reach out farther and under objects better...

PLM-1
04-20-2007, 01:15 AM
A straight shaft trimmer has a gear box and spins the opposite way of a curved shaft because of this. You are usually limited on power also from a curved shaft. Straight shaft is the only way to go IMO.

jack carson
04-21-2007, 03:25 PM
have you ever used one of those edge discs?
I saw that but don'[t know if it's worth it or not but the video i saw was pretty neat

ChadsLawn
04-21-2007, 04:00 PM
Curved shafts are made for Midgets and home owners....LOL

Rizzo
04-21-2007, 06:19 PM
I use the straight shaft trimmers but for some reason my dealer says he sells alot of curved shaft ones to the larger LCO's in this area. He isn't sure why they prefer them.

Berettaman
05-05-2007, 07:41 PM
What straight shaft wacker would you guys rec.? I'm doing 5 lawns a week for now.

snowbrdr360
05-05-2007, 08:14 PM
John Deere... I love mine

Rizzo
05-05-2007, 11:06 PM
echo or stihl... or any commercial brand that you can get serviced locally...

Simplylawncare
05-11-2007, 12:17 PM
Straight shaft only, Echo or Stihl for long term reliability, Husky or Kawasaki for balance and weight, you can run with them and have an awesome look when your done.

nate22
05-25-2007, 10:37 PM
straight shaft

nate22
05-26-2007, 12:35 AM
straight shaft

nate22
05-26-2007, 12:36 AM
Stihl straight shaft

nate22
05-26-2007, 12:36 AM
stihl straight shaft

kmann
05-26-2007, 10:24 AM
Curved shafts are made for Midgets and home owners....LOL

Do they even make a commercial curved shaft trimmer. I think you are right on this one.

Rizzo
05-26-2007, 11:10 AM
I don't think Echo or Stihl make commercial curved trimmers except for on the attachment or kombi models.

Skimastr105
05-26-2007, 12:33 PM
I have the edgit attachment. It works great. Not only can you edge with the same tool as you trim with, but it actually trims better with the disk. The string creates a suction which helps out a lot in terms of overall cut. The disk also provides more protection than the OEM guard.

MJStrain
05-28-2007, 11:07 PM
I bought one curved shaft and will never buy another. Too much bending over to trim along sidewalks. Kills my back.

inHaliburton
05-29-2007, 01:38 AM
Stihl FS-250 straight shaft with the harness and handle bars, safety guard removed. I trim as fast as I can walk whether doing flower beds, around trees, or "sweeping" back and forth as on steep slopes or ditches. I'm currently using a new Stihl head that you put stick the ends of the string into and "crank" to fill up the spool. Don't have to take it apart to load string. Not sure I like this better, as it requires a lot of force to "crank." Plus, it's $10.00 more that usual configurtion.

Regards, Paul.

www.grass-roots-lawn-service.ca

WoodChucker
09-23-2007, 06:34 AM
Really impressed with mine.
Incredible balance and handling; very light.
Trigger is very natural.
Bump feed really works.
Overall good design and layout.
Very ergonomic.

Echos eat my armpit or elbo.
Shindaiwas cost a fortune and don't handle as well for me.
For $269 @ Lowes, I'm a happy camper.
While there, get a window unit air conditioner foam filter and you can cut out a lifetime supply of air filters for another $2.

:)
:usflag:

LawnMowerMan2003
09-26-2007, 07:28 PM
I have a curved-shaft rebuilt Echo. I bought it because I was really low on cash at the time, and to its credit it has been pretty reliable, but if you are tall I definitely wouldn't advise it because I'm 6'1" and I can't always stand up straight to use it so it's hard on my back. I've used straight shaft and I prefer those, Echo, Stihl, or Shindaiwa. Personally I would not start with Shindaiwa, although they are great, because they are expensive and heavy and it might be a waste if you don't have alot of customers. I have not used Kawasaki or Husqvarna yet, but I'm thinking about getting a Kawasaki.

WoodChucker
09-27-2007, 01:16 PM
Yep.

The Shidaiwas are heavy, clunky, and EXPENSIVE.
Also, you are tied to a "commercial" dealer where parts and service can bust your budget.
I have watched guys plead to get something fixed in less than a month because of the seasonal backlog.

Some guys like Echos.
For me, they start and run just fine.
However, I have not found one that "fits" me, nor have I found one that will bump feed reliably.

If an Echo fits you, go to Lowes and get the $19 Arnold precut string head.
It fits almost anything, and will work with .080 to .105 round or square line.
The same unit with a different name can cost twice as much elsewhere.

Keep your precut line stored in a jug of water or make up (with PVC solvent cement) a carrier from 2" PVC plumbing pipe with a screw in plug in the top.
Somehow, soaking in water for a few days makes the line work better and last a lot longer.

You will use half as much line this way, compared to a bump feed which wastes a lot of line every time you bump it.

I have not used the Kawasakis, but I would be leery of parts and, especially service issues.

The answer:

For $269, the Husqy 223L from Lowes is the hands down winner.
Nothing fits me better, or feels better, or works better.

The pull start is on the far end (easy to service).

My right hand fits the housing to hold it so I can pull start it with my left hand.
I tore out my rotator cuff and bicep on my right arm. Surgery helps, but it never is really the same. Also, I am 62 years young (?).

The 223L is a commercial rated (class B certified) unit.

The manual is really good and gives really good instructions for recalibrating the carb after run in (100+ hours) to maintain California standards.

Everything about it is so well designed that I have not found anything that I don’t like about it.

The unit is so light, well balanced, and “ergonomic” that it is a joy to use.
It has a long straight shaft.
The large (but not bulky, clunky, heavy) guard really works.
The motor housing is so well designed that it will not eat elbows and arm pits even on big guys.

When you buy it, get the $2 Frost King window unit air conditioner foam filter pad for a lifetime supply of air filters, …before you leave the store.
Before you gunk it up, use the new filter for a pattern, and cut several out with scissors.

Husqy sells several bump feed heads.
They all look pretty good and the M35 that comes on the 223L really works.
Always use the Husqy .095 Titanium line.
Nothing works as well in any bump feed.

I would not put a brush blade on the 223L.
While at Lowes, look at the TroyBilt TB90 and the Swisher Line MOWER (It is not a trimmer...too strong for that).
The TB90 comes with a brush cutter and a J handle (yes, you need that) for about $150.
If they can't handle it you need a heavy duty brush mower.
I use the blade on the TB90 and the .155 line on the Swisher, and am pleased with both.

If you really need to chop down Sherwood Forest, look at the DR stuff.
It ain't cheap, but it is reasonable and it really works.
Those folks really use their stuff and it shows.
I have been amazed out how much better their stuff really works (brilliant design and great construction).

If you do have problems, Lowes is really good about customer satisfaction.
I got the extended warranties on all my Husqy stuff and have never had to use them, but the service is phenomenal.

When I bought my Husqy 42” twin blade “trim tractor”, I called the 800 number and asked a lot of questions.
I was amazed at how professional they were, and at how well I was treated.
Light years better than most places.

If, God forbid, they can’t fix it and get it back to you soon enough, for $269 having spare 223L is a good (and affordable) investment.
(Lowes is also very reasonable with their credit card program.)


:)


:usflag:

chops_74
09-27-2007, 02:05 PM
I would go to your local delaer and hold each to find out which one is more comfortable to you. We currently use stihl and my guys love them. Straight shaft is the way we go. We like the torque, power, and balance of our machines. Let me know if you have any questions abotu what we run.

MJStrain
09-28-2007, 09:02 PM
Yep.

The Shidaiwas are heavy, clunky, and EXPENSIVE.
Also, you are tied to a "commercial" dealer where parts and service can bust your budget.
I have watched guys plead to get something fixed in less than a month because of the seasonal backlog.

Some guys like Echos.
For me, they start and run just fine.
However, I have not found one that "fits" me, nor have I found one that will bump feed reliably.

If an Echo fits you, go to Lowes and get the $19 Arnold precut string head.
It fits almost anything, and will work with .080 to .105 round or square line.
The same unit with a different name can cost twice as much elsewhere.

Keep your precut line stored in a jug of water or make up (with PVC solvent cement) a carrier from 2" PVC plumbing pipe with a screw in plug in the top.
Somehow, soaking in water for a few days makes the line work better and last a lot longer.

You will use half as much line this way, compared to a bump feed which wastes a lot of line every time you bump it.

I have not used the Kawasakis, but I would be leery of parts and, especially service issues.

The answer:

For $269, the Husqy 223L from Lowes is the hands down winner.
Nothing fits me better, or feels better, or works better.

The pull start is on the far end (easy to service).

My right hand fits the housing to hold it so I can pull start it with my left hand.
I tore out my rotator cuff and bicep on my right arm. Surgery helps, but it never is really the same. Also, I am 62 years young (?).

The 223L is a commercial rated (class B certified) unit.

The manual is really good and gives really good instructions for recalibrating the carb after run in (100+ hours) to maintain California standards.

Everything about it is so well designed that I have not found anything that I don’t like about it.

The unit is so light, well balanced, and “ergonomic” that it is a joy to use.
It has a long straight shaft.
The large (but not bulky, clunky, heavy) guard really works.
The motor housing is so well designed that it will not eat elbows and arm pits even on big guys.

When you buy it, get the $2 Frost King window unit air conditioner foam filter pad for a lifetime supply of air filters, …before you leave the store.
Before you gunk it up, use the new filter for a pattern, and cut several out with scissors.

Husqy sells several bump feed heads.
They all look pretty good and the M35 that comes on the 223L really works.
Always use the Husqy .095 Titanium line.
Nothing works as well in any bump feed.

I would not put a brush blade on the 223L.
While at Lowes, look at the TroyBilt TB90 and the Swisher Line MOWER (It is not a trimmer...too strong for that).
The TB90 comes with a brush cutter and a J handle (yes, you need that) for about $150.
If they can't handle it you need a heavy duty brush mower.
I use the blade on the TB90 and the .155 line on the Swisher, and am pleased with both.

If you really need to chop down Sherwood Forest, look at the DR stuff.
It ain't cheap, but it is reasonable and it really works.
Those folks really use their stuff and it shows.
I have been amazed out how much better their stuff really works (brilliant design and great construction).

If you do have problems, Lowes is really good about customer satisfaction.
I got the extended warranties on all my Husqy stuff and have never had to use them, but the service is phenomenal.

When I bought my Husqy 42” twin blade “trim tractor”, I called the 800 number and asked a lot of questions.
I was amazed at how professional they were, and at how well I was treated.
Light years better than most places.

If, God forbid, they can’t fix it and get it back to you soon enough, for $269 having spare 223L is a good (and affordable) investment.
(Lowes is also very reasonable with their credit card program.)


:)


:usflag:

I've never before had the pleasure to read a post with so much useful information. Congrats!

mower&more1986
09-28-2007, 10:11 PM
dont go with curved shafts if you value your back and the are useless when it comes to trimming under trees. I use to think what was the differness then i found out.

mower&more1986
09-28-2007, 10:17 PM
I'm giving my echo gt200 to my dad he doesnt have a lot trimming to do and the weedeater brand he bought doesnt run well. I have a stihl 4mix fs 90R
stright trimmer with a solid steel shaft which allows me more options of what I can use as a head

LawnMowerMan2003
09-30-2007, 10:42 AM
Woodchucker:

I have one question. Wouldn't it be better to cut your own line than buy the precut stuff, as it seems it is much more expensive that way?

DillonsLawnCare
09-30-2007, 03:46 PM
dont get a husqvarna. i bought the 223L my first year, it cost $330.00. it was great, the titanium line was good. then i bought the shindaiwa t230 with the speed feed this past june. its lighter than the 223L and the line that they offer (.095) is freakin awesome. the bump speed feed is great. i only paid $321.00. shindaiwas arent clunky and heavy. it depends on what type of trimmer you get. the bigger ones might be. husqvarna is good to start out with, but youll end up paying the same for an entry level commercial. everyones gunna tell you to get the trimmer they have. go try them out. find out which model is best for you and what best fits you. find a lawn care guy and ask if you can test it out. go to dealers. demo.demo.demo.

do what you want, but ive learned that you get what you pay for. JMO

haul03486
09-30-2007, 10:01 PM
Bent shaft trimmers will also create more back pain for you. Go with simplylawncare suggestion my neighbor had a stihl trimmer for 19 years.

vermonta
10-20-2007, 11:59 PM
I still have an Echo 2501 I bought in 1987. I had a U handle on it so we didn't use it much for weed whaking to slow but ran 2300 straight shaft (much quicker) We had the bigger one as a backup but a couple of years later the smaller one seized up over the winter?? so we bought a couple more smaller echos but went to Husky after that light in weight but not rugged at all and harder to work on IMHO. Anyway two years ago my son found the old 2501 in the shed and put gas in it and it started on the third pull and ran strong so we fitted it with a small handle and ran it last summer.

You can't beat quality

Sadly I need a muffler for it now and can't seem to find one but it still runs good if we had a muffler

ANYBODY GOT ONE OR KNOW WHERE I COULD GET ONE ????

I have two Echo split booms now and love them too.

But as mentioned earlier go with what fits YOU not what the salesman is trying to sell you :)

Marcos
11-01-2007, 12:44 PM
I used to be an adamant Echo guy for everything, until I tried out a Kawasaki 26 cc trimmer two years ago. They rock! And they're deceptively quieter than most of the rest, making it seem that they're not as 'powerful', but actually they are. Now I've got their larger backpack blower, too.

vermonta
11-01-2007, 10:57 PM
I had and still have several different kinds of small equipment and it depends what my needs are at the time, the dealer (very important) likes & dislikes of the help, repair/cost history etc.

Right now I have one 750 Echo b/p blower and last year bought two BR600 Stihl's and love them. I have some older Echo's for backup but usually buy a couple of new ones every two years, depending on how they stand up.

My Stihl/Echo/Husky/Jonsereds etc. dealer is great because even though he is about 35 miles away he has great customer service, will talk a deal when I go there and always gives me the straight scoop on how things hold up and what in his opinion is the best bang for the buck. I don't like people that tell you what ever is on sale is the best simply because its on a promotion deal and it might benefit them in the short term. My dealer looks at the long term and wants me to come back because of the service I get when I go there.

MY dealer :walking: the walk not just talk the talk

TXNSLighting
11-07-2007, 01:39 PM
trimmer! Echo. Straight shaft. curved is for losers.

Woody82986
11-07-2007, 10:02 PM
I's have to say that Echo trimmers and other equipment have never let me down.

vermonta
11-07-2007, 11:04 PM
trimmer! Echo. Straight shaft. curved is for losers.

:clapping: Curved shaft are for homeowners and/or real short people:laugh:

WoodChucker
11-08-2007, 03:26 AM
Woodchucker:

I have one question. Wouldn't it be better to cut your own line than buy the precut stuff, as it seems it is much more expensive that way?



:waving:

When I said "precut" I should have said precut by me!

For less than $35, I can get a 3# (840ft) spool of Husqy .095 spiral titanium line.
I slide the end of the line into a length guage (a small length of 1/2" PVC plastic schedule 40 water pipe) and then clip it off at the edge of the tube with a pair of "dikes" (electricians side cutter pliers).

For the Swisher string mower, I get a 1# spool of >.155 Oregon aramid core square line, and do the same process using a PVC tube guage cut for that length.

If I could afford to buy those cute little tubes of store bought precut line, I would not be working this hard!


:drinkup:

lawn1234
02-29-2008, 06:37 PM
Straight shaft only.

STIHL GUY
11-16-2008, 10:55 PM
my dealer told me that some big companys buy curved sharf because their guys beat the crap out of equippment aand they are much cheaper to replace than a strait shaft

bighaydenslawn
12-20-2008, 11:25 AM
I love my Stihl straight-shaft FS 55 R, and plan on getting a Stihl FS 80 R, i love the cut and simplicity.

sulcl
12-21-2008, 02:18 AM
Straight Shaft only. Agree with MJStrain less pressure on the back. Also, if doing ditch lines your reach is alot better and you can hold the trimmer with one hand doing them.

4b landscape
04-23-2009, 12:26 AM
the only curved shaft we use if the shindaiwa f 230!! its commercial not homeowner...in other words it has a long shaft(bout as long as a str shaft)!! ive got 3 guys that will only use the f230 and i trust them to trim my beard with it!! that is /was the only long shaft commercial curved shaft available!! not no more

GardnerLawn
04-24-2009, 12:34 AM
how long of a shaft would you recommend? how far should you be able to reach?

mowerdude777
04-24-2009, 11:51 PM
Curved shafts are made for Midgets and home owners....LOL

I couldn't agree more lol

Rcgm
04-25-2009, 12:17 AM
The term still gets me Weedeater. Please call it a trimmer before I have a coronary LOL:laugh:


Brad

KGR landscapeing
04-25-2009, 11:31 AM
I used to be an adamant Echo guy for everything, until I tried out a Kawasaki 26 cc trimmer two years ago. They rock! And they're deceptively quieter than most of the rest, making it seem that they're not as 'powerful', but actually they are. Now I've got their larger backpack blower, too.

I used to run a toro pro then echo and then it was like nobody could touch stihl. Then i got a kaw. and now ill never look back. lighter better tone and it will cut down anything in a blink of an eye. It will also sit on the bed rail of my pick up running. and not fall off. I would tell anybody to buy a kaw, I believe that they are the best.

bluridge
04-27-2009, 03:15 PM
how much you guys paying for a kawasaki trimmer? My Stihl has of course has the stihl trimmer but they also have one honda trimmer. not sure if there are any kawasaki trimmers around me but would have to check. what are you paying for the commercial version kawasaki?

KGR landscapeing
04-27-2009, 03:37 PM
I think right about 250 or so id have to call my dealer forsure so dont quote me on that

jkilov
04-27-2009, 07:00 PM
Personally, there's little use for a curved shaft.

I still keep one because it's super narrow and short. Allows me to trim in very tight spaces like between fencing and hedge rows to remove all the crap that grows over time. It's also way underpowered, useful when trimming around newly planted dwarf junipers. I straightened the shaft a bit so it fits tall operators better.

That's it. For anything else straight shaft is king.

dlaros
05-06-2009, 11:00 PM
I was a Stihl fan, then I used a Tanka an thats all she wrote. I will never buy a different company again.

ChunkyBeaver
05-10-2009, 02:39 AM
Stihl FS 90

Kennedy Landscaping
05-14-2009, 12:23 PM
I love my straight shaft. I'll never go back to a curved shaft trimmer again

GardnerLawn
05-15-2009, 01:59 AM
just bought a new kawasaki a few days ago so far so good it's alot quieter than I'm used to. Does anybody use support straps or have any neck or back pain weedeating very much at a time??

bighaydenslawn
05-21-2009, 11:42 PM
Straight the only way.....

Just went from a Weedeater Curved to a Stihl FS 90R....

All I can say is OMG.

So much easier to work with and so much more power.

Of course I realize that is a major brand upgrade as well,

but I will never go back to curved shaft again.

mowerdude777
05-22-2009, 03:48 PM
streight shaft is the best way to go

mower&more1986
05-22-2009, 06:28 PM
holy cow this thread is old lol

Edit: generaly curved shaft is cheaper. same 1 year Commercial Warranty

length verys to the trimmer. echo has one that 52" curved shaft pretty close to the straight shaft which 59"

http://shop.echo-usa.com/Product/Product.aspx?model=GT-251

green monster
03-19-2010, 10:41 PM
Shindaiwa for weight, feel, and especially long term reliability.