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PurpHaze
04-26-2007, 10:34 PM
Had a 1-1/2" lateral line break under a tree at one of our high schools near their varsity baseball field. Knew the area under the tree was pretty hollowed out by the "rushing" sound when the zone was turned on. Thank God for the Bobcat backhoe as we would have had one hell of a time rerouting the lateral without it. We took the new line about 15' away from the tree so hopefully it'll be some time before anything like this happens again with this tree. And of course... we had to replace three sprinklers along the fence that were downstream of the break but two of them were Toro S-600s that were about 20 years old.

Some pics:

#1: The break amongst the root ball of the tree.

#2: The pipe had been pushed by the tree and here's how it lined up after cutting it loose. The reroute started with the piece of pipe on the left. The right side was abandoned.

#3: Paint showing how far the pipe had been bowed. Left mark shows the current route in line with where the break occurred. Right mark shows the original route when the pipe was installed.

#4: Trench done with the Bobcat to reroute the line.

#5: Everything all put back together and buried. We needed to bring in 2-1/2" cubic yards of sand to fill the void under the tree and backfill everything due to all the removed roots.

Dirty Water
04-26-2007, 10:36 PM
Good job on moving it away from the tree.

Jobs like those used to make me hate irrigation.

CAPT Stream Rotar
04-26-2007, 10:38 PM
yuck..


IRRITATION very nice clean up...presentation=a very important part of the job...i cant wait to post my resi pics.
again very nice work.

Mike Leary
04-27-2007, 04:33 PM
yuck..


IRRITATION very nice clean up...presentation=a very important part of the job...i cant wait to post my resi pics.
again very nice work.

Yass, photos of heads being adjusted are very important to professionals,
there is a truck thread already...give us something we can learn from, pup!

CAPT Stream Rotar
04-27-2007, 04:37 PM
Yass, photos of heads being adjusted are very important to professionals,
there is a truck thread already...give us something we can learn from, pup!



well if you read my post correctly i have to get to my resi job..and since today it is rainned out..you all must wait on the edge of your seats until monday night.....I honestly am the best/quickest/neatest Polly pipe irrigatior on cape cod hands down...GRAMPS....Relax...Lay off the Viagra have a coke>smile and chill out....K?

and on a sidenote what is the population of Squamish WA?

sheshovel
04-28-2007, 05:01 PM
Dang Purp, you might have caused fatal damage to that tree. Should have asked me first about how far out to go. I DO know some things well ya know? Not where you fixed the break but where you dug the trench for the new line.

Mike Leary
04-28-2007, 05:12 PM
Dang Purp, you might have caused fatal damage to that tree. Should have asked me first about how far out to go. I DO know some things well ya know? Not where you fixed the break but where you dug the trench for the new line.

She on the money!!!!! I was taught to trench INTO the drip line, never ACROSS which trashes the feeder roots.....keep your boys reminded why
we're in this biz!!

mikecaldwell1204
04-28-2007, 08:08 PM
Nice repair job Purp. I got some pics coming monday on how we fix broken mainlines under trees here in florida lol

Dirty Water
04-28-2007, 08:15 PM
Sheshovel. I think Hayes wants the tree to die. That damn thing ruined his pretty pipes.

sheshovel
04-28-2007, 08:21 PM
She on the money!!!!! I was taught to trench INTO the drip line, never ACROSS which trashes the feeder roots.....keep your boys reminded why
we're in this biz!!

Well, how do ya like that! A kudo from Mike for She.

Remote Pigtails
04-28-2007, 08:24 PM
Dang Purp, you might have caused fatal damage to that tree. Should have asked me first about how far out to go. I DO know some things well ya know? Not where you fixed the break but where you dug the trench for the new line.

I think that tree is what I call a volunteer, Probably should have been snipped when it was a twig.:angel: Bye Bye baby tree.

sheshovel
04-28-2007, 08:27 PM
Sure, sure Pigtails whaaaaatever you say. But regardless,all trees clean the air and where Purp is working the air quality is really bad.

sheshovel
04-28-2007, 08:28 PM
Sheshovel. I think Hayes wants the tree to die. That damn thing ruined his pretty pipes.

This is also a good possibility.

PurpHaze
04-28-2007, 11:45 PM
Dang Purp, you might have caused fatal damage to that tree. Should have asked me first about how far out to go. I DO know some things well ya know? Not where you fixed the break but where you dug the trench for the new line.

Well... you were prolly a little busy with some drip line and couldn't make the short trip down here anyway. :)

PurpHaze
04-28-2007, 11:47 PM
Well, how do ya like that! A kudo from Mike for She.

Don't let it go to your head. We can so easily turn... like big koi feeding on the smaller ones. :p

PurpHaze
04-28-2007, 11:49 PM
Sheshovel. I think Hayes wants the tree to die. That damn thing ruined his pretty pipes.

Damn straight Jon... Plant an effing tree on top of one of my lines and suffer the consequences! :laugh:

PurpHaze
04-28-2007, 11:51 PM
Originally Posted by Dirty Water
Sheshovel. I think Hayes wants the tree to die.

This is also a good possibility.

I never want a tree to intentionally die. But put one in my way and it's Bobcat backhoe time. :)

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 01:26 AM
Well... you were prolly a little busy with some drip line and couldn't make the short trip down here anyway. :)

Now now Purp, you know I am always here for you. So are you saying that next tree you might think of trenching out straight for at least 25' and then over?

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 11:22 AM
So are you saying that next tree you might think of trenching out straight for at least 25' and then over?

In a word... probably not. (I know... that's two words.) :)

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 02:57 PM
Oh, I am so disappointed in you. What have they done to you?

Mike Leary
04-29-2007, 03:06 PM
In a word... probably not. (I know... that's two words.) :)

That's why purps is moving to Yakima,WA, no big trees.

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 03:11 PM
OH yea RIGHT, I know Washington, I used to live there too.

Mike Leary
04-29-2007, 03:15 PM
OH yea RIGHT, I know Washington, I used to live there too.

A she-native?

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 03:41 PM
Oh, I am so disappointed in you. What have they done to you?

Made me see the practical side of not caring??? :laugh:

You plant an effing tree on top of my lines... when it gets big enough to disrupt the irrigation and make me have to dig through roots... I take no prisoners. :)

Mike Leary
04-29-2007, 03:52 PM
Made me see the practical side of not caring??? :laugh:

You plant an effing tree on top of my lines... when it gets big enough to disrupt the irrigation and make me have to dig through roots... I take no prisoners. :)

"effing tree"...jezz this guy is ready for retirement....United Pipe has a
opening for a counter jockey in Yakima:laugh:

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 03:54 PM
United Pipe has a[n] opening for a counter jockey in Yakima

I'm prolly not qualified. Perhaps Rotard will apply? Then I'll move to Cape Cod instead. :laugh:

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 04:02 PM
Made me see the practical side of not caring??? :laugh:

You plant an effing tree on top of my lines... when it gets big enough to disrupt the irrigation and make me have to dig through roots... I take no prisoners. :)

Your lines huh? Oh are those the old antique lines that were installed 40 years ago that you have been having to fix and replace all over the place trees or not? Huummmmmm??? Now you should not punish the poor tree for a mistake a human made long time ago. Like I said before, with the air quality in your area you can use every mature tree you can get! There are better methods just as easily used and I am sorry that you don't care enough to use them. This is not how you approached problems before. I mean heck just a few weeks ago you were concerned about cutting a tiny feeding root. Then you trench out 1/2 a trees feeding roots? Whattzamattayou?

Dirty Water
04-29-2007, 04:07 PM
OH yea RIGHT, I know Washington, I used to live there too.

Hehehe.

Hey She, did you know that California grows 80% of the universes crops?

You have absolutely no clue what eastern washington looks like.

*Heres a Hint*

Western Washington:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/oudist/HOODCANALFRMTWALKER535.jpg

Eastern Washington:

http://www.callipygia600.com/allpictures/ontheroadpix/2006/images/eastern_washington.jpg

Its really shocking how fast the enviroment changes when you cross the cascades.

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 04:11 PM
LOL... You've been hangin' with Rotard just a little too long She. :)

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 04:11 PM
Oh really now? You know my geographical history do ya? Puleeeeze........spare me Dirty.

Mike Leary
04-29-2007, 04:12 PM
I'm prolly not qualified. Perhaps Rotard will apply? Then I'll move to Cape Cod instead. :laugh:

Your prolly overqualified.Don't make rash statements, you mite buy yer
next parts from Rotard!

Dirty Water
04-29-2007, 04:13 PM
Oh really now? You know my geographical history do ya? Puleeeeze........spare me Dirty.

Well I do know that your uneducated little comment "RIGHT, I've been to Washington" just made you look like a fool.

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 04:13 PM
LOL... You've been hangin' with Rotard just a little too long She. :)

Answer me please? A small feeding root concern? Then a 1/2 feeding roots of a mature tree no concern? You know I am getting you second guessing yourself.

Mike Leary
04-29-2007, 04:16 PM
Hide the sheep & the children....

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 04:17 PM
Well I do know that your uneducated little comment "RIGHT, I've been to Washington" just made you look like a fool.

OMG! Only one uneducated comment making me look like a fool then? You are so far ahead of me in that I will never catch up!
Ok, I only know western Wash, how am I to know where Mike lives? Who cares that is way off topic anyway.

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 04:19 PM
Answer me please? A small feeding root concern? Then a 1/2 feeding roots of a mature tree no concern? You know I am getting you second guessing yourself.

I'm not usually concerned about roots... period. Hand pruners, loppers, sawz-all and Bobcat usually do the trick. :laugh:

Mike Leary
04-29-2007, 04:24 PM
Purps...here's your next gig..get those bib overalls broken in.valley irrigation.com

Dirty Water
04-29-2007, 04:26 PM
OMG! Only one uneducated comment making me look like a fool then? You are so far ahead of me in that I will never catch up!
Ok, I only know western Wash, how am I to know where Mike lives? Who cares that is way off topic anyway.

You don't, you only need to observe that it was clearly stated that Hayes was moving to Yakima.

Perhaps a cursory glance at a map would have shown that Yakima is located on the eastern side of the cascades, and has a drasticly different climate.

Instead though, you typed a sarcastic statement with yet again no factual basis, and then had the gall to defend yourself when called on it.

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 04:28 PM
I'm not usually concerned about roots... period. Hand pruners, loppers, sawz-all and Bobcat usually do the trick. :laugh:

I found it Quote Purp:Only problem encountered was the old fart (me) trying to cautiously dig around a tree root in order to cut it out of the way with loppers when he hit the 2" main line spur with the pointiest part of the trenching shovel. Boy did I get a bath!


Ok just sayin is allllllllll......ohhhh I seee. you were cautiously digging to CUT it
My mistake
LOL

Dirty Water
04-29-2007, 04:30 PM
I found it Quote Purp:

Ok just sayin is allllllllll...............................heh got you!

Read that quote carefully and you'll see that he was referring to cutting out the root with loppers.

Heh. Got you!

:D

Mike Leary
04-29-2007, 04:33 PM
Oh you kids! Have you noticed no Rotread this aft? Purps, I was trying to get
you Valmont..having trouble posting links....Too many Lawn/Buckners?

sheshovel
04-29-2007, 04:33 PM
I thought you said you were cautiously digging around it to keep it. Sorry Purp I owe you lunch come on up this summer, lunch is on me. Except for Erna's Eldeberry House I can't afford that kind of lunch! Sorry sweetie. I am chastized.
I bow my head in shame.

Mike Leary
04-29-2007, 04:42 PM
Wait a minute...he hit the spur with his shovel when using loppers????
Ambidextrous?

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 08:18 PM
I found it Quote Purp:

Ok just sayin is allllllllll......ohhhh I seee. you were cautiously digging to CUT it
My mistake
LOL


Cha-ching! I didn't care about the root at all. The loppers were ready and all I was trying to do was get space around it and the pipe in very hard ground to cut it out. :)

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 08:19 PM
Purps...here's your next gig..get those bib overalls broken in.valley irrigation.com

Bad URL again? :)

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 08:25 PM
Perhaps a cursory glance at a map would have shown that Yakima is located on the eastern side of the cascades, and has a drasticly different climate.

A lot of people have grave misconceptions about Oregon and Washington. Two-thirds of those states are arid, high desert and part of the Great Basin. Only about a third of the western side of these states is lush and green and that's where 90% of their residents live.

[NOTE: Statistics quoted are in no way meant to be actual and should only be considered as a perspective view.] :laugh:

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 08:27 PM
I thought you said you were cautiously digging around it to keep it. Sorry Purp I owe you lunch come on up this summer, lunch is on me. Except for Erna's Eldeberry House I can't afford that kind of lunch! Sorry sweetie. I am chastized.
I bow my head in shame.


I hear Chukchansi's got some good food deals... and I may qualify for the senior discount. :laugh:

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 08:29 PM
Wait a minute...he hit the spur with his shovel when using loppers????
Ambidextrous?

My wife says that both my hands are equally talented. :p

But I hear that Rotard is even better since he has a prehensile tail. :laugh:

Wet_Boots
04-29-2007, 08:34 PM
too much information

CAPT Stream Rotar
04-29-2007, 08:35 PM
Redmond,WA where the women are toothless and the farm animals are nervous.

Dirty Water
04-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Redmond,WA where the women are toothless and the farm animals are nervous.


Hehehehe.

Find me a farm animal or a house under $500k in redmond and I'll give you a prize:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Redmond+WA&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=47.639456,-122.136855&spn=0.006622,0.019956&t=h&om=1

Sometimes I go down to the lake Washington waterfront to relax and watch the surgically enhanced trophy wifes jog by.

Remote Pigtails
04-29-2007, 08:48 PM
A lot of people have grave misconceptions about Oregon and Washington. Two-thirds of those states are arid, high desert and part of the Great Basin. Only about a third of the western side of these states is lush and green and that's where 90% of their residents live.

[NOTE: Statistics quoted are in no way meant to be actual and should only be considered as a perspective view.] :laugh:

Speaking of places. My trusty sidekick serviceman just got back from a week in CA. Rented a car and drove the whole state. Said he had a really good time but he was really glad to be home. i asked him why and he said their is no personal space in CA. I gather he felt you guys are really crowded in. Drove the San J valley for 400 miles to get to San Fran.

PurpHaze
04-29-2007, 09:04 PM
Speaking of places. My trusty sidekick serviceman just got back from a week in CA. Rented a car and drove the whole state. Said he had a really good time but he was really glad to be home. i asked him why and he said their is no personal space in CA. I gather he felt you guys are really crowded in. Drove the San J valley for 400 miles to get to San Fran.

There's lots of space in California... just not in the LA, Bay or Sacto metro areas. If he went via I-5 there's plenty of personal space over on the west side of the valley as it's so desolate. He just didn't know where to go to get away from all the prople. :)

sheshovel
04-30-2007, 12:04 AM
I hear Chukchansi's got some good food deals... and I may qualify for the senior discount. :laugh:

Fine as long as it is not any of the buffets, I saw a report on how unsanitary buffets can be and ever since then I refuse to eat at smorgusboards or buffets.
They have some good restaurants in there though.