View Full Version : Just picked up my new Bob-cat Predator Pro with the Boss Vac. Here's what I think.
LawnMower
05-02-2007, 10:35 AM
Its a Bob-Cat Predator Pro with the 33 HP Genaric engine and 61 inch deck. I also ordered it with the Boss Vac.
So far I'm very impressed with the mower. Its like mowing with a cadillac. Its the comfortable seat along with the controls. You just think and the mower does it. There's very little vibration from anything, even with the vac going.
The mower is built very solid and heavy duty. The fit and trim is very good too. The Boss Vac is heavy duty just like the mower.
The Boss Vac seems to work very well . I like it much better then my Protero vac. I mowed through some thick lush wet grass and it didn't clog. It sucked up every bit of it. It loaded up all three baskets chock full, and that is a lot of grass . Each basket is about 50 pounds a piece when loaded with damp grass. I didn't mow at full spread with the vac, but I wasn't creeping along either. The vac is also easy to empty. You just slide the baskets off the support rods after you lift the vac lid. The only problem I have with the vac so far is taking the unit off the mower. There's a bunch of pins here and there that are hard to get too.
With vac system off , the mower cuts very well, with out clumping so far. My older Bob-Cat clumped where this one doesn't. I even went fast a few times and it still cuts very well. That big 33HP engine really does some work with out slowing down. It also lays a good stripe just like my older Bob-Cat ZTR.
Iv mowed with the Predator Pro a half day so far and i'm impressed. I would, so far highly recommend this mower. It even comes with a beer can holder built into the left hand gas tank.
J&R Landscaping
05-02-2007, 01:12 PM
Thats good to hear! My Bobcat stripes excellent as well!
puppypaws
05-02-2007, 03:05 PM
Its a Bob-Cat Predator Pro with the 33 HP Genaric engine and 61 inch deck. I also ordered it with the Boss Vac.
So far I'm very impressed with the mower. Its like mowing with a cadillac. Its the comfortable seat along with the controls. You just think and the mower does it. There's very little vibration from anything, even with the vac going.
The mower is built very solid and heavy duty. The fit and trim is very good too. The Boss Vac is heavy duty just like the mower.
The Boss Vac seems to work very well . I like it much better then my Protero vac. I mowed through some thick lush wet grass and it didn't clog. It sucked up every bit of it. It loaded up all three baskets chock full, and that is a lot of grass . Each basket is about 50 pounds a piece when loaded with damp grass. I didn't mow at full spread with the vac, but I wasn't creeping along either. The vac is also easy to empty. You just slide the baskets off the support rods after you lift the vac lid. The only problem I have with the vac so far is taking the unit off the mower. There's a bunch of pins here and there that are hard to get too.
With vac system off , the mower cuts very well, with out clumping so far. My older Bob-Cat clumped where this one doesn't. I even went fast a few times and it still cuts very well. That big 33HP engine really does some work with out slowing down. It also lays a good stripe just like my older Bob-Cat ZTR.
Iv mowed with the Predator Pro a half day so far and i'm impressed. I would, so far highly recommend this mower. It even comes with a beer can holder built into the left hand gas tank.I ran a new Predator Pro with the 33 Generac this morning and was extremely impressed, the ride and controls were excellent and the Generac was very smooth and strong even at 15 mph.
I had just gotten off a M-72 37 hp Cub Tank and there was absolutely no comparison, the engine was wonderful but the ride and controls was the worst I had ever felt on any mower.
I owned Bobcats before but this new Predator Pro has really changed for the better. You should really enjoy your new mower, the controls are totally different from the older Bobcats, unbelievably smooth.
Tharrell
05-02-2007, 05:49 PM
I ordered a 33 hp 61 Predator but, my dealer got a 52 along with it and I'm going with the smaller deck because it will go just about everywhere. I used a 52 last week and only used my wb on 3 spots, mostly hills and really tight areas. Glad you like the Bob-Cat, it's about time they get some recognition. They really are great machines and the Predators are just awesome.
puppypaws
05-02-2007, 06:18 PM
I ran a new Predator Pro with the 33 Generac this morning and was extremely impressed, the ride and controls were excellent and the Generac was very smooth and strong even at 15 mph.
I am sorry but I was told this was a 15 mph mower, that is a mistake , the specs state the 33 hp Generac is a 12.5 mph mower. I was given bad information.
CRF500
05-02-2007, 06:34 PM
I ran a new Predator Pro with the 33 Generac this morning and was extremely impressed, the ride and controls were excellent and the Generac was very smooth and strong even at 15 mph.
I had just gotten off a M-72 37 hp Cub Tank and there was absolutely no comparison, the engine was wonderful but the ride and controls was the worst I had ever felt on any mower.
I owned Bobcats before but this new Predator Pro has really changed for the better. You should really enjoy your new mower, the controls are totally different from the older Bobcats, unbelievably smooth. ENVY GET OUT HERE!!!!!!!!!! Pupster you only mow 100 hours a year what do you know? :)
puppypaws
05-02-2007, 07:46 PM
ENVY GET OUT HERE!!!!!!!!!! Pupster you only mow 100 hours a year what do you know? :)I62 last year get your figures right if you gona talk. I was running equipment of all kinds before the sperm that developed you was even thought about.
CRF500
05-02-2007, 07:53 PM
I62 last year get your figures right if you gona talk. I was running equipment of all kinds before the sperm that developed you was even thought about. Thats a pretty nice piece of property you have if you mow 162 hours a year on it, I know since you enjoy mowing so much you should get a tank so it will take you 400 hours a year to mow it so you can enjoy the good old outdoors more. :laugh:
puppypaws
05-02-2007, 08:14 PM
Thats a pretty nice piece of property you have if you mow 162 hours a year on it, I know since you enjoy mowing so much you should get a tank so it will take you 400 hours a year to mow it so you can enjoy the good old outdoors more. :laugh:I wouldn't be able to mow it with a Tank, well maybe after spinal fusion surgery. Have you ever ridden one, what could make it ride so rough, maybe it had 40 lbs. of air pressure in the tires, that is what it felt like. The property I mow at 15 mph with no problem would kill me at 10 mph on a Tank. My dealer said the suspension seat on the tank was not nearly as good but believe me it can't all be a seat problem.
Lynden-Jeff
05-02-2007, 08:47 PM
Here are some stripes laid down by my bobcat today. Personally, I would go with the 25 hp kawi on a 61 inch deck but im sure the generacs are OK.
Cheers
Jeff
CRF500
05-02-2007, 08:52 PM
I wouldn't be able to mow it with a Tank, well maybe after spinal fusion surgery. Have you ever ridden one, what could make it ride so rough, maybe it had 40 lbs. of air pressure in the tires, that is what it felt like. The property I mow at 15 mph with no problem would kill me at 10 mph on a Tank. My dealer said the suspension seat on the tank was not nearly as good but believe me it can't all be a seat problem.Army tanks have been known to ride rough so I guess now we know the real reason it is called the tank because it da m sure ain't the build quality!
LawnMower
05-06-2007, 10:22 AM
Well it was challenging but I was able to clog the Vac. Ones I learned how to clog the vac I found that I did it more often, lol. High wet grass will clog it if im going too fast. If I'm cutting more then 3 inches off the top of the grass it will clog.
So far I'm loving my new toy
I ran a new Predator Pro with the 33 Generac this morning and was extremely impressed, the ride and controls were excellent and the Generac was very smooth and strong even at 15 mph.
I am sorry but I was told this was a 15 mph mower, that is a mistake , the specs state the 33 hp Generac is a 12.5 mph mower. I was given bad information.
Well I am not sure what the speed is...I dont have the new literature in front of me. But originally the ZT200's had 10cc pumps and the Predators Pro's had 12cc pumps. Now all except one ZT200 will have 12cc pumps(they are called ProCats) and the Predator Pro's will have 16cc pumps. 12.5 may be the new top speed...I cant remember...LOL
puppypaws
05-06-2007, 12:52 PM
Well I am not sure what the speed is...I dont have the new literature in front of me. But originally the ZT200's had 10cc pumps and the Predators Pro's had 12cc pumps. Now all except one ZT200 will have 12cc pumps(they are called ProCats) and the Predator Pro's will have 16cc pumps. 12.5 may be the new top speed...I cant remember...LOLAccording to their literature it is, that mower is quick and comfortable. The higher speed has helped them sell better in this area, Bobcat has a very good mower, the people just wanted a little more speed and comfort. The older model I owned was rough riding but flawless in every other way.
Envy Lawn Service
05-07-2007, 12:52 AM
Told you guys the Bob-Cats were very smooth and ample mowers when you get up to the big ones.
The decks have also been baffled different since 2005.
Myself, before making the move to Lesco, the purchase before I was stuck between the Bob-Cat and the eXmark.
I could have got more mower for less money with the Bob-Cat.
Plus it felt better, sounded better and rode better.
Trouble was, all I could do was RIDE the Bob-Cat.
On the other hand, I could demo the eXmark, which sealed the deal for me.
The irony is, that I turned right around and didn't demo the eXmark "hard enough".
I might have been better off going with the Bob-Cat.
Anyways, AMAZING the difference a suspension seat can make for ride comfort.
I demoed an old one several years ago before the "stock" suspension seat.
Dang thing rode like a war wagon with 8 PSI.
Told you guys the Bob-Cats were very smooth and ample mowers when you get up to the big ones.
What do you mean by big ones? There really is no difference in the ZT200 line from the 19HP 48" up through the 37HP 72"...besides engine size, deck size and now the pump differences.
LawnMower
05-09-2007, 10:18 PM
Told you guys the Bob-Cats were very smooth and ample mowers when you get up to the big ones.
The decks have also been baffled different since 2005.
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I see a very big difference in the cut with the Bob Cat Predator Pro compared to my older Bob Cat.. The Baffled decks were a great improvement. It cuts the norther thick dense turf grass very well with hardly any clumping.
puppypaws
05-09-2007, 10:33 PM
I see a very big difference in the cut with the Bob Cat Predator Pro compared to my older Bob Cat.. The Baffled decks were a great improvement. It cuts the norther thick dense turf grass very well with hardly any clumping.I had the older style Bobcat and the new Predator Pro seems to be a little longer and I know it rides twice as good, she is fast also, about 3 1/2 mph faster I believe than the old 9 mph model.
The Bobcat Predator Pro impressed me when I tried it, I really liked the extra speed over my old one.
silverport
03-05-2010, 09:47 AM
Guys get it right...the predator pro with the 33hp generac engine does 13.5 MPH not 12.5. I just bought mine this year and cant wait to use it.
puppypaws
03-05-2010, 12:04 PM
Guys get it right...the predator pro with the 33hp generac engine does 13.5 MPH not 12.5. I just bought mine this year and cant wait to use it.
QUOTE:
Speed
37hp Kawasaki 0 – 12.4 mph (19.9 km/h) forward;0 – 4 mph (6.4 km/h) reverse
33 hp Generac 0 – 13.5 mph (21.7 km/h) forward;0 – 4 mph (6.4 km/h) reverse
We did get it right, you need to look at the dates on the post. Bobcat actually was going to stop using the Generac engines altogether, the reason being people would not buy their mower with the Generac engine. My dealer was the top Bobcat dealer in the US year before last and I can remember when he told me there would be no more Generac engines offered on Bobcat mowers once the inventory was gone.
I called Bobcat personally and asked why they were no longer going to offer the Generac engine on their Predator Pro. I was told for every Generac they could sell there were several times more Kawasaki's sold. Generac has never been able to build a name in the mower market until recently.
I actually have contact information in my computer to the gentleman at Bobcat I made friends with, at the time we were talking I explained to him that I felt the Generac was a more powerful engine than the Kawasaki. I also told him there was less throttle lag with a Generac engine than the Kawasaki and the fuel economy was better. He said Bobcat knew this but could not get the message through the general public's mind because of the strong name Kawasaki carries.
When we were discussing this before; their specs no longer listed the Generac engine, they were phasing them out as their remaining inventory was sold. This is the reason people got so many wonderful prices on the PP with the Generac engine, cleaning up inventory.
More and more people are finding out Generac and Vanguard has a very good engine; but you will always pay 4 or 5 hundred dollars more for the Kawasaki name on a mower engine. Bobcat put the Generac back into their lineup because the interest in Generac engines picked up from information people have read in forums such as LawnSite. This is not a sales pitch, but normally good facts from people using the Generac engine and making comparisons to the Kawasaki's, they have owned in the past.
NORTHMAN
03-05-2010, 12:14 PM
puppypaws,sir,whats your opinion on the reliability and the durability of the Generac engines?What are the parts availability like?I've read in the past that they had some oil leek problems.Then again I've read about problems with the 37 HP Kawasaki.Thanks for your help as always.
jmullins6987
03-05-2010, 12:45 PM
Just curious how much did the predator pro 61 run you?
puppypaws
03-05-2010, 07:43 PM
puppypaws,sir,whats your opinion on the reliability and the durability of the Generac engines?What are the parts availability like?I've read in the past that they had some oil leek problems.Then again I've read about problems with the 37 HP Kawasaki.Thanks for your help as always.
Generac, Vanguard, Kohler and Kawasaki are all good engines. Generac has been building engines for generators a very long time, generators must have a fast recovery engine when it senses a load needing more amperage very quickly. Generac has an advantage by engineering their choke system to sense and respond more quickly. This means when a mower hits a heavier area of grass either caused by larger growth or dampness it responds more quickly. When it responds more quickly, this means less RPM drop, which in return means less blade tip speed drop. The less blade tip speed drop the more usable power with better fuel economy.
This is something people don't seem to grasp, you can take a 30 hp Kohler in heavy cutting where the governor is working constantly in an attempt to hold the engine speed up and this will mean excessive fuel usage. You can put the same mower with a 33 Generac or 35 Vanguard in the same grass and you may never hear the governor activate. This means more productivity with less fuel, the mower never slows down. The 37 Kawasaki in the same situation will drink fuel, the governor is too sensitive, this is the reason they have engineered what is called an E-Choke. Kawasaki is supposedly coming out with the E-Choke (electronic choke), on some of their engines this year, and I am sure the 37 hp will be on that list. I talked with Kawasaki personally last fall and this was the information I was given. I told them their 37 used more fuel than any comparable engine on the market, and they agreed this was one of its faults.
Bobcat told me personally that Generac parts availability was no problem for them, this could be because of the number of engines they buy, the more money you spend normally means better treatment for a large customer.
puppypaws
03-05-2010, 07:56 PM
I forgot to add this, it was emailed to me this afternoon from Bobcat for those interested.
rain man
03-05-2010, 09:09 PM
We just got a new Bob-Cat dealer locally. Stopped in to check them out. Pretty sharp machines.
jmullins6987
03-05-2010, 09:10 PM
RE:dealer was the top Bobcat dealer in the US year before last and I can remember when he told me there would be no more Generac engines offered on Bobcat mowers once the inventory was gone.
JUST CURIOUS WHATS THE NAME OF THE TOP BOBCAT DEALER?
rain man
03-05-2010, 09:18 PM
Can't recall just this second. He set up in a great location though. On a main road close to the interstate.
puppypaws
03-06-2010, 11:40 AM
RE:dealer was the top Bobcat dealer in the US year before last and I can remember when he told me there would be no more Generac engines offered on Bobcat mowers once the inventory was gone.
JUST CURIOUS WHATS THE NAME OF THE TOP BOBCAT DEALER?
Whitley Lawn & Garden, Monroe, NC....Bobcat has largest single store dealer as well as mutiple store dealer. Whitley would be considered a single store dealer.
jmullins6987
03-06-2010, 12:52 PM
whitley lawn & garden, monroe, nc....bobcat has largest single store dealer as well as mutiple store dealer. Whitley would be considered a single store dealer.
thanks i'll have to check out there prices. I would guess they are pretty good selling all they do!
puppypaws
03-06-2010, 07:36 PM
thanks i'll have to check out there prices. I would guess they are pretty good selling all they do!
Yes, you do that, you could probably fly down and pick one up from my dealer cheaper than you could buy one from a dealer in the great state of Connecticut.
MONTE
03-06-2010, 08:17 PM
He just wants pricing so he can compare to his own prices! He is a bobcat dealer.
hornett22
03-06-2010, 08:55 PM
Yes, you do that, you could probably fly down and pick one up from my dealer cheaper than you could buy one from a dealer in the great state of Connecticut.
Corrupticut was a great state?
whoever it was lied like hell.
jmullins6987
03-06-2010, 11:14 PM
Yes, you do that, you could probably fly down and pick one up from my dealer cheaper than you could buy one from a dealer in the great state of Connecticut.
YOUR DEALER HAS NOTHING ON THE GUYS IN CT. MY DEALER PRICES ARE UNTOUCHABLE!:laugh:
puppypaws
03-07-2010, 08:05 AM
YOUR DEALER HAS NOTHING ON THE GUYS IN CT. MY DEALER PRICES ARE UNTOUCHABLE!:laugh:
He just wants pricing so he can compare to his own prices! He is a bobcat dealer.
You are both correct, take your pick of the prizes!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
jmullins6987
03-07-2010, 09:02 AM
You are both correct, take your pick of the prizes!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
AND IM CORRECT YOU WORK FOR A DEALER !:laugh:
You are both correct, take your pick of the prizes!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Sales kinda slow for you Chad that you have to cut down other for buying at dealers a 1000 miles away? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
QUOTE:
Speed
37hp Kawasaki 0 – 12.4 mph (19.9 km/h) forward;0 – 4 mph (6.4 km/h) reverse
33 hp Generac 0 – 13.5 mph (21.7 km/h) forward;0 – 4 mph (6.4 km/h) reverse
We did get it right, you need to look at the dates on the post. Bobcat actually was going to stop using the Generac engines altogether, the reason being people would not buy their mower with the Generac engine. My dealer was the top Bobcat dealer in the US year before last and I can remember when he told me there would be no more Generac engines offered on Bobcat mowers once the inventory was gone.
I called Bobcat personally and asked why they were no longer going to offer the Generac engine on their Predator Pro. I was told for every Generac they could sell there were several times more Kawasaki's sold. Generac has never been able to build a name in the mower market until recently.
I actually have contact information in my computer to the gentleman at Bobcat I made friends with, at the time we were talking I explained to him that I felt the Generac was a more powerful engine than the Kawasaki. I also told him there was less throttle lag with a Generac engine than the Kawasaki and the fuel economy was better. He said Bobcat knew this but could not get the message through the general public's mind because of the strong name Kawasaki carries.
When we were discussing this before; their specs no longer listed the Generac engine, they were phasing them out as their remaining inventory was sold. This is the reason people got so many wonderful prices on the PP with the Generac engine, cleaning up inventory.
More and more people are finding out Generac and Vanguard has a very good engine; but you will always pay 4 or 5 hundred dollars more for the Kawasaki name on a mower engine. Bobcat put the Generac back into their lineup because the interest in Generac engines picked up from information people have read in forums such as LawnSite. This is not a sales pitch, but normally good facts from people using the Generac engine and making comparisons to the Kawasaki's, they have owned in the past.
I would blame it more on Generac than the public. We are a Bobcat dealer. Got setup with Generac as soon as they started putting them on the mowers just in case we needed parts. Got a letter 2 years later saying that we should get setup if we arent...yadda yadda. So we call them and find out if we need to do anything or if we are setup just fine. My dad talked to 5 people before giving up. I talked to 7 before I found one that had any clue about what I was talking about. So we got that taken care of for the time being. Most of the Generacs we did see were on older generators(the line that was bought by briggs). So parts for the generator end was easy since that was briggs parts. Parts for the Generac are not. If Generac wants to be a player then need decent parts lookup and people that know what they are talking about to answer the phones. As of today any Generac engine problem that comes in gets sent away.
They may be great engines, but when I need parts for kaw, briggs, Kohler, honda, robin, or tecumseh I can look them up easily and order them quickly. Generac is a joke in that department.
Kaw does have a DFI version of that 37hp out now. Luckily we really dont have the need for the high HP around here. Most are content with 23-25HP on 61" machines.
Also in your comparison of engines like the 30HP kohler vs the 33HP Generac....what is the displacement of each? Not really a good comparison if the Generac has 200-300cc advantage
puppypaws
03-07-2010, 12:51 PM
Sales kinda slow for you Chad that you have to cut down other for buying at dealers a 1000 miles away? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Chad has the capital that puts him in a position to walk in and pay cash for a dealers inventory that is closing the doors. He hauls in tractor trailer loads of mowers purchased from dealers gone bankrupt, or from their dealership being removed because of poor sales. He probably buys the mowers for $.70 or less on the dollar, turns around and beats everyone prices, helps the customer and is still able to generate a good profit.
This is where having money, makes more money, not many dealers in the country have that type clout. The ones that do are able to take advantage of the same situation Chad does. I was not told this by Chad; but by a big rep in NC for other mower lines Chad does not sell, lines they have begged him for years to handle; but he will not.
puppypaws
03-07-2010, 01:50 PM
I would blame it more on Generac than the public. We are a Bobcat dealer. Got setup with Generac as soon as they started putting them on the mowers just in case we needed parts. Got a letter 2 years later saying that we should get setup if we arent...yadda yadda. So we call them and find out if we need to do anything or if we are setup just fine. My dad talked to 5 people before giving up. I talked to 7 before I found one that had any clue about what I was talking about. So we got that taken care of for the time being. Most of the Generacs we did see were on older generators(the line that was bought by briggs). So parts for the generator end was easy since that was briggs parts. Parts for the Generac are not. If Generac wants to be a player then need decent parts lookup and people that know what they are talking about to answer the phones. As of today any Generac engine problem that comes in gets sent away.
They may be great engines, but when I need parts for kaw, briggs, Kohler, honda, robin, or tecumseh I can look them up easily and order them quickly. Generac is a joke in that department.
Kaw does have a DFI version of that 37hp out now. Luckily we really dont have the need for the high HP around here. Most are content with 23-25HP on 61" machines.
Also in your comparison of engines like the 30HP kohler vs the 33HP Generac....what is the displacement of each? Not really a good comparison if the Generac has 200-300cc advantage
This statement is correct for anyone that wants to remain in business, Bobcat tells me they have no problem with parts from Generac, and it is always a possibility larger dealer have less problems than smaller dealers.
You were confused on the comparison of a 30 hp Kohler and 33 hp Generac in my post, I was not speaking about power comparison, this is where the larger displacement plays its role. I spoke of fuel consumption, making the comparison of people believing lower hp engines always give better fuel economy, and this is not the case in all situations. A larger displacement engine may get better fuel economy from working easier in heavy cutting conditions; than a lower hp engine that uses the governor constantly.
Yes, the 37 dfi Kawasaki will definitely be an improvement over their carburetor version; but digital fuel injection (which is open loop), is not nearly as efficient as a closed loop, electronic fuel injection. The 29 dfi Kawasaki was nothing special, reasonable fuel economy, with lacking power. The 28 efi Kohler has what is considered more usable power with quicker response and much better fuel economy, which if you put on identical mowers; the 28 efi and the 29 dfi, you would find the 28 to be more powerful.
I think you already know this if you have ever dealt with both engines, what say you this?
What makes it so different in your area that a 61" deck does not really suck the power away from a 25 hp engine?
I really dont know but you just dont see these huge engines on everything here. Lots of people run 17HP on 52" Wright Standers. I wont sell one with that unless they want to special order it. We stock the 23HP...next step down is 19...otherwise I would probably just have 21's if they offered it. I just dont get people coming in asking about these ~30hp+ monsters.
Not sure on the fuel economy of the new 37 DFI Kaw. They are going to a new system...its really more of a TBI system with very low fuel pressure. I guess Robin is using almost the same system on their 28 EFI. Some system made by Mikuni I believe. The ECU, Injectors and throttle body is all one assembly.
Yah the closed loop Kohler system should be more efficient and probably getting even better as I guess they are going to a 4 wire O2 sensor.
I didnt realize you were only comparing fuel consumption. I will agree there. My dad owned many Chevy C30 pickups. Started with 283's and his last one had a 454. He said he got the same mileage with all of them(construction work hauling tools/equipment trailer to and from chicago)...the only difference was when you stepped on the 454 it went. So yes a large engine can get the same economy pulling the same load as a small engine with power in reserve basically is what I am saying.
Bobcat may not have issues, but we dont buy Generac parts from Bobcat. Generac parts go through a Generac distributor(now, before it was direct with generac). I have no problem getting Bobcat parts.
I have yet to see a machine with one of their big V-twins on it other than at a distributor open house type of event for dealers. I talked to a guy from the biggest dealer in our area at an update school one time....he said they sold 2 of them with Generacs and had nothing but problems with them. Think they ended up replacing the engines or maybe converting them to Kawasakis and I guess they are now opposed to selling any with Generacs as well. And I am sure this dealer would give yours a run for their money ;)
chevy1968
09-25-2012, 07:36 AM
POS and this is why...So far with 600hrs on my 2011 Pro predator 61 with 34 hp kawa. Three pto belts.2 handle grips,two recalled front tires,2 spindles and the lastest wheelmotor or hydro pump not sure yet. Oh and a new seat..All covered by warrenty but soon not.I will sell best offer?Not happy!
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