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nt1
05-02-2007, 10:42 PM
How long after application does it take for round up or glyphosate to be effective?

We had a wave of heavy storms and rainfall come through about 3 to 4 hours after an application to st. augustine.

Grass is growing fast and temperatures were in the low 80's.

indyturf
05-02-2007, 11:02 PM
how long ago did you apply? I have sprayed round up and thought it wasn't working almost a week after applied, then you go out the next day and every thing has turned brown. it really depends on temperature and the weather.

nt1
05-02-2007, 11:25 PM
The round up was applied today & and heavy rainfall came about 3 to 4 hours later.

indyturf
05-02-2007, 11:57 PM
should be ok, but you will know for sure in a week! was it roundup pro? I think its rain-fast in an hour and works faster than regular roundup.

nt1
05-03-2007, 12:12 AM
Yeah, the label states rain or water will not decrease effectiveness after one hour.

Still find that hard to believe, quess I will know in a week.

I am scheduled to put in some flower beds next week where the round up was applied ( 900 sq ft. ).

I do not want to postpone this job for another week If I have to reapply again next week then wait another week and so on.

ampeg76
05-03-2007, 03:20 PM
Yeah, the label states rain or water will not decrease effectiveness after one hour.

Still find that hard to believe, quess I will know in a week.

I am scheduled to put in some flower beds next week where the round up was applied ( 900 sq ft. ).

I do not want to postpone this job for another week If I have to reapply again next week then wait another week and so on.

looks like texas temps are going up within the next week, so if sufficient chemical was applied you will know by then!

did you use a adjuvant?

teeca
05-03-2007, 03:54 PM
i've applyed in the rain and it worked fine, indyturf is correct, it does take a GOOD week before you see any resualts. the round up pro has diquat add and it gives visual resualts in a day. i use the regular round up and add my own diquat (reward, or weed plex if you shop at lesco) to it.

Ric
05-03-2007, 05:03 PM
i've applyed in the rain and it worked fine, indyturf is correct, it does take a GOOD week before you see any resualts. the round up pro has diquat add and it gives visual resualts in a day. i use the regular round up and add my own diquat (reward, or weed plex if you shop at lesco) to it.

Teeca

What is the ratio of your Diquat to Glyphosate? Too much Diquat and you loose the systemic effect of Glyphosate. I will post if your ratio is the same as the ratio I use or different. However most people I talk with, I believe are using too much Diquat in their mix ratio. It takes a very little Diquat to speed up brown out of weeds. Monsanto researched this mix very long before coming up with the granular formulation of Quick Pro that works. BTW I am not sure my mix ratio is the best for total systemic kill.

teeca
05-03-2007, 06:52 PM
i use round up @ 2.5% (3-3.5oz per gal) in a 4gal backpack sprayer and add 1oz reward and 1-2oz of a surfactant.

Ric
05-03-2007, 08:26 PM
i use round up @ 2.5% (3-3.5oz per gal) in a 4gal backpack sprayer and add 1oz reward and 1-2oz of a surfactant.

Teeca

Just as I am guessing. IMHO your high rate of Diquat is blocking the Glyphosate from being systemic. You could drop the Glyphosate and still get the same response from that mix. At one time I was using 0.5 oz of Diquat and 3 oz of Glyphosate and was still blocking the systemic action. Diquat burns the plant so fast the the Glyphosate doesn't have a chance to get in. BTW the Surfactant is helping the Diquat and not the Glyphosate. Just about all Glyphosate brands already have Surfactant in them. Aquatic Glyphosate is the most common not to have any surfactants.

In a 25 gallon spot sprayer I am mixing 75 oz of Glyphosate, 3 oz of Diquat and 4 lb of Ammonium Sulfate. I see a response in 3 to 5 days. No this is not as fast as Scythe but it is a lot faster and a more complete kill than you get with either Diquat or Glyphosate as stand alone or mixed products at your present mix rate.

teeca
05-03-2007, 09:21 PM
thanks ric, i'll try that on my next round. i'm an aquatics guy also, so thats why i throw in the surfactant, since reward does not have any in it. for the aquatics i use rodeo and reward, just rodeo won't effect anything submerged.

Neal Wolbert
05-05-2007, 01:29 AM
It's best not to use an adjuvant with Roundup Quick Pro according to the manufacturer. Do use and adjuvant with Roundup Pro however. We like them both depending on the site. We have native moss in beds up our way and some folks like to keep it. Quick Pro knocks it back hard (we found out the hard way).

Neal