View Full Version : The Back Saver gate device
08-09-2001, 12:45 AM
Does anyone use the "Back Saver" that was at Expo? It looks like a great investment for those heavy trailer gates and was just wondering if they really work as good as they look?
08-09-2001, 12:57 AM
They work great...save about 180.00 and build your own in about two to three hours time.
08-09-2001, 01:02 AM
Bought one at EXPO for $120
put on in 1/2 hour
now you can kick gate up with your foot
now my girl friend can pick up gate by her self
get one you will love it
08-09-2001, 01:55 AM
I built one by Erics instructions and it works great. Just go to his web site its on there somewhere. It didnt cost around 30 dollars to build.
08-09-2001, 05:23 PM
I may one that looks just like the back saver, except i used 2 springs (heavy gate) instead of 1. Cost $25.00 springs,$2.00 eye bolts,$3.00 pvc pipe and $5.00 misc. Total $35.00.
08-09-2001, 07:08 PM
LAWNGODFATHER, you think your girlfriend can come help me with my gate??? Just kidding, haha, please dont send the boys (Tony and Gweed-Oh) after me. I will (when I get time) also do the set up per Mr. Eric's lovely web site. Much cheaper to biuld yourself, and probably much better construction too.
08-11-2001, 02:55 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sunrise
[B]I may one that looks just like the back saver, except i used 2 springs (heavy gate) instead of 1. Cost $25.00 springs,
Where do you get these springs at? Thanks in advance.
08-11-2001, 10:15 AM
I bought the backsaver this year and can't imagine ever being without it. It saves your back and now I've got that much more energy to do things as lifting that gate really wore me down. Whether you make one or buy one already biult , you won't regret it . I don't even bend down to pick it up....I just kick it up with my toe. When I drop it down , I don't bend over either , I just unlock it ,push it down , and it will fall to the ground ever so gently.:p
08-11-2001, 10:33 AM
Home Depot, Menards, Lowes any hardware store...these are just garage door springs. If I remember correctly they are about 12.00 each.
08-11-2001, 04:18 PM
Anyone have a URL for Back Saver, or pictures?
Where can I buy one?
08-11-2001, 05:30 PM
08-11-2001, 10:42 PM
Went to home depot for garage door spring and a cable, used a magazine ad for a guide put the spring in 3" elec pvc tube.
works great saves lots of lifting.
08-12-2001, 06:57 PM
got them at Lowes I thank they were rated for 160 lbs each.
08-14-2001, 01:59 AM
Here is mine.
I trade services to a fabricator. He builds everything I need.
He used two 150lb Garage door springs. They come with the cable.
The pulleys he said he made them on a lathe.
We had one side done and it helped but went ahead and put them on both sides.
Now wth a little flick it goes up by its self.
My 9 yr old son thinks its the coolest thing that he can lift the gate.
Its amazing how much this helps. the gate gets heavy by the end of the day. Not to mention I had it reinforced this spring which added even more weight.
08-14-2001, 03:16 PM
thats nice Todd looks just like my Easy Gate
amd whats the tubes on the back of the Lazer for
08-14-2001, 03:32 PM
LGF, I think you're seeing the Lazer's arm rests that are in the upright position..................Lynn
08-14-2001, 04:07 PM
I love mine. Mine is just like Eric's.
I think it would work better if on both sides - But then I would'nt be able to pull the Mower up on the edge of the gate.
08-14-2001, 04:38 PM
Never mind it's for your Vac system
08-14-2001, 05:45 PM
We bought an EZ-Gate at the Louisville Lawn Expo and it's nice. I know all about how people have made their own but the show special price was better than my time to fabricate one. The owners kid (8-10 yrs. old) showed it to me and I was hooked. The install was ok but the directions could have been a little more informative. Bottom line - I can raise/lower the 4' gate on the trailer easily with one hand. Multiply that by the number of cuts/day, days cutting/week, and my back feels better already. It's a good product. Gee, I sound like an endorsee <G>
08-15-2001, 09:30 AM
were did you get the pulleys from?
08-15-2001, 11:33 PM
The guy that does all my welding said he made them on his lathe. They are just Plastic.
08-16-2001, 12:46 AM
Yep, that is slick! Looks just like mine, but mine is just a little bigger, and I only have one. (causes the right corner to pull up just a little bit - about an inch). Did you say that your springs were two 150# springs? That seems like alot! My one spring, I thought, was rated at about 80#, but maybe I'm wrong. I know I can lift the gate with a flick of my toe though, and it comes right to daddy.:p I thought before of having one on each side, but just haven't had the need yet. Your pulley case looks just about like mine, too. Just welded steel? Nice!:) Sunrise, you were wondering about the pulleys, I got mine from a block and tackle pulley that I bought just for the pulley wheels. I wanted to make sure that the steel wheels weren't 2 piece, pressed together. I was afraid of them splitting. Also, I used coated cable, but this was kind of a waste, since the vinyl split where the cable runs over the one pulley.
08-16-2001, 12:59 AM
Yes they are 150lbs garage door springs. Now part of the problem was that we could only put them so far foward(cause of the sides on my trailer). So the springs were not stretched very far to begin with.
We had on on and tried it but I still had to work. I figured if I was going to have a gate assist i wanted it to fly up.
Oh by the way the first time I lifted it (used to it being heavy) I almost got myself in the chin. MAN did that slam shut.
08-16-2001, 11:31 AM
When I have any spare time, I go to hardware stores and look around for ideas. You can find all types of small inexpensive items like springs, pulleys, cables, .....
09-25-2002, 04:05 PM
It only works with trailers that have short side rails. My were 4ft high and it didn't work
09-25-2002, 05:16 PM
I built my own gate assist and found solid 2" diameter pulleys at Home Depot which are pulleys used on the bottom of sliding patio doors. They are perfect for this application. I also set my pulleys up a little bit differently so that they didn't stick up so far as the ez-gate does. I mounted the lower pulley about 3" behind and 1" lower than the higher pulley. I will try to post some pictures when I get a chance.......I really think my pulley arrangement is an improvement over the others I have seen, so I will try to get a picture out there for others to use.
09-26-2002, 06:50 AM
Tractor supply has "sheaves" for pulley applications. The smallest is 2". There are 2 different kinds, 1 for rope and 1 for wire rope(cable). I've ordered 4 of them for my trailer. I saw the backsaver yesterday(in a box) in a mower shop. I like the design but wonder if the cable just runs over 2 bolts in the back? If so, does this wear quickly? I thought about putting a couple of roller bushings over the bolts to help the cable? Anybody got info on how the "backsaver" is built?
09-26-2002, 09:35 AM
Does the literature that came with the 150# spring tell you how far you can safely pull that spring? Thanks.;)
09-26-2002, 09:56 AM
The back saver is a great product never hear any complaints. Yes you can always buy some after market parts to build one but have you ever seen a spring break and shot toward you. Stay safe purchase something that is built and tested for the job.
09-26-2002, 10:14 AM
My trailer has four foot sides and a really heavy split gate. I made the trailer able to carry a large tractor and implements as well as my Walkers.
I really would like to build a gate lift system........ but does anyone know if my sides being so high would complicate things?
I cannot see that it would, but I haven't tried it, yet.
I would need a 150lb spring or heavier.
09-26-2002, 10:30 AM
I have heard that after a few years, or if the spring is stretched too far that it can "explode" into several pieces thus mimicking a loaded gun shooting shrapnel in every direction. I have heard of guys running a safety cable through the spring. Can you run the cable through the center of the spring then attach the safety cable to the ends of the spring with enough slack on the cable to let the spring run its full length of travel as the gate goes up/down?
09-27-2002, 06:25 AM
If I go this way, I'm going to use the heavier springs (1 on each side) so it's not overloaded. I have thought about safety and there are some things you can do to help. You can put a heavy bolt through the ends to keep the spring inside the METAL enclosure. You can also restrict the opening where the cable comes out of the METAL enclosure and put some sort of cable stop on it so it won't WHIP out at you if it comes off the spring. I think my trailer top edge is 3-4 inches wide at least so I could put 2 large bolts side by side to restrict the spring and the cable from shooting out either end.
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